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The Netherlands THE NETHERLANDS 2019 - Duncan Laurence - Arcade

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Reinventor

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LOL @ Blanche being charismatic. She looked like a deer caught in the headlights, really nothing charismatic about it at all.
 

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LOL @ Blanche being charismatic. She looked like a deer caught in the headlights, really nothing charismatic about it at all.
Yes, a lack of charisma, that's why she failed to connect with televoters and didn't do well at all in 2017- OH WAIT!!

Blanche failed to connect with jurors because jurors come in with pre-built expectations of what a performer should and shouldn't do. Blanche was young and inexperiences and therefore didn't appeal to them.

'Charisma' however, has a much bigger impact on the televote. It's all about being able to connect with the viewers. It is more than just being confident. It's about being relatable. Hell, I've suffered from anxiety, depression and a lot of other shit I don't feel comfortable discussing on the internet and seeing someone on the stage who is by all accounts a shy introvert, vulnerable, scared and flawed... was an immense relief. It felt cathartic to experience someone so normal, so human on the stage for once, in stark contrast to all the performance bots and failed social experiments, someone whom I could genuinely root for.

Blanche's vulnerability and angst was precisely what made her charismatic and appeal to the silent majority who are exactly like her and do not have the confidence to post their thoughts on the internet. Her presence provided them with the feeling that they too can break from their shells and blossom into the beautiful people they were born to be.

Just because that doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean she wasn't charismatic. That simply isn't true.
 

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Yes, a lack of charisma, that's why she failed to connect with televoters and didn't do well at all in 2017- OH WAIT!!

'Charisma' is more than just being confident. It's about being relatable. Hell I've suffered from anxiety, depression and a lot of other shit I don't feel comfortable discussing on the internet and seeing someone on the stage who is by all accounts a shy introvert, vulnerable, scared and flawed. It's such an immense relief to see someone so normal, so human on the stage for once, in stark contrast to all the performance bots and failed social experiments. Blanche's vulnerability and angst was what made her charismatic and appeal to the silent majority who are precisely like her and do not have the confidence to post their thoughts on the internet.

Just because that doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean she wasn't charismatic. That simply isn't true.

And that last line... you could apply that exactly to Duncan’s live performance, but you don’t... and that makes you hypocritical.
 

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How is that hypocritical? Our perceptions of this world and of who is charismatic or who is not are ultimately subjective, which includes Charisma. I connect with Blanche more than I do with Duncan, just like how you can feel the opposite. That makes neither of us hypocritical, just different people with different tastes.

The entire idea that EVERY thought and opinion one expresses has to be applicable to every similar situation, no exceptions allowed is just silly. Sometimes people love green apples more than red ones. It happens. Dwi.
 

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Because you claim Duncan wasn’t charismatic in his performance, you called him near death. But next you claim Blanche was charismatic because blablabla, and because opinions differ. That makes you hypocritical, because you don’t apply the same logic to Duncan. Somehow you apply different standards to both artists, just because it suits you.
 

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Blanche charisma >>>>> Duncan charisma

And now let's move on....
 

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Duncan needs a lot of work because that live performance had the aura of an inexperienced talent show failure. We'll see if he grows in confidence in Amsterdam.
 

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[MENTION=5846]Reinventor[/MENTION]

*sigh*

Where did I say he was 'uncharismatic'? As I recall, I say that he was *Not As Charismatic As I Hoped He Would Have Been*. And yes he looked positively feverish, come on now. As I noted in that same post at least 50% of that is simply nerves due to this being his first ever live performance, which he will hopefully not suffer from In Tel Aviv. (and 50% is simply because he looks that way, but there's always a place in my heart for weird-looking humans) I ALSO said that his voice sounded excellent, which is the major selling point of the song.

If I'm really fair, I felt the same minor disappointment about Blanche at first, but she quickly won me over.(and I see no reason why Duncan wouldn't do the same once the Semi has aired). I bloodly love Blanche to bits and I will always defend her against ludicrous slander, much like how you wish to defend Duncan. I am not your enemy however, but you and the other Dutchies must become willing to accept criticism of your precious Duncan, lest he suffers the same fate Sennek did last year. Netherlands can easily throw away an easy top five spot if they simply content themselves with that they have. You haven't won yet. Learn from our (Belgium's) mistakes and you're golden tho.

And now let's move on....

Yes, let us. It's a great entry, regardless.
 

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Blanche>>>>>>
Charisma is not just about being all hyper and/or about being all full of yourself... I thought Blanche was lovely and charismatic.

This however might be the most overrated song of the season, truly don't get the hype surrounding this very try-hard 'we want to win pls' song. Oh and he lacks charisma as well TO ME.

I would love ESC in Amsterdam/Rotterdam/DH/Utrecht/Eindhoven each year in NL tbh but not with this pretentious/basic song.
 

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Does the song remind of anybody else Bulgaria 2018 song? I find them similar in tone.

10 pts for now but I fear it won't translate as well on stage but hopefully it will unlike Blanche and Belgium in 2017 (even though she finished 4th, she didn't reach the potential or the hype before the contest)
 

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Meanwhile, me over here thinking that both Belgium 2017 and The Netherlands 2019 carry a hefty weight of pretentiousness about them, and are equally beyond try-hard.

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The hype is beyond me. I do not get what makes this lukewarm ballad a frontrunner? There's nothing to it.
 
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