The Netherlands THE NETHERLANDS 2014 - The Common Linnets - Calm After The Storm

[i anixi]

I think everyone agrees that this was a piece of brilliant staging immaculately performed.
I still think it is an undescribably dull song tbh though. And I still find a typically American based genre to be somewhat out of place in the Eurovison Song Contest.

 

[ParadiseES]

It is a good song, no doubt, it has quality and it is really pleasant to listen to. But I am afraid that songs like these don't work on ESC, and I think this one will also go nowhere. It is great as a radio hit and to listen to in the background while you are doing something else, but as for its chances on the contest.........I am afraid they are not too big The juries will love it, certainly, but I am not sure about the televoters.

5 points.

It's a cute song, but is it enough to qualify? I don't know It's a not a song for eurovision ..

edit: 7 points from me

I wouldn't be surprised though if this fails to qualify.

I didn't expect much to be honest so I'm not disappointed! It's inoffensive, almost beautiful but it surely doesn't have any wow factor.

7 points.

I like it though this will struggle in the Semis. It needs a good amount of jury support to succeed. It's the kind of song most people wouldn't put as their favorite and rather third or fourth which doesn't really help with televoting.

These are only the first posts I found

 

[nofuxCZ]

I think everyone agrees that this was a piece of brilliant staging immaculately performed.
I still think it is an undescribably dull song tbh though. And I still find a typically American based genre to be somewhat out of place in the Eurovison Song Contest.

Well, there are European countries where country music is strong as well, e.g. Ireland or even Czech Republic. I don't think any genre is out of place in Eurovision.

 

[ParadiseES]

Unfortunately, this may not do well in the competition, but ah well...

It's dull and won't get the hype "Birds" did. It won't stand out on the stage and is certainly in the worse semi final. Looks to me like another year languishing in the semis for the Dutch

As it is I think it will be difficult to pass the semis.

Rule number 1:
No Country, Rock'n Roll or other popular American style. Such music isn't favoured through out Europe.
You will see, the Netherlands would not reach the final.

it's a nice song to listen to, but it doesn't impress me. one minute after it's over, it's forgotten... i doubt, that it will make it to the final

Part 2.

 

[i anixi]

Well, FoxOfShadows was not that far off from the truth. It didn't get the "hype", that's for sure. It did get the result though

 

[ParadiseES]

Conclusion: If you're not good at country music and don't really know how to do it in your style, just not try it, I think this one will be out of the Grand Final. 4 points.

Very very very boring song! Dire Straits for elderly...
It is monotone, has no melody, no climax, no vocal surprises, it just goes on and on for 3 minutes without something special!
I don't see it making to the finals, it will end up as one of the last.
A storm in a glass of water

and indeed this won't make the final IMO.

The Netherlands just blocked their way to the final with their own song , poor them

This is a well constructed song, but I just don't think it goes anywhere - a shame really because the voices are stunning.

Last part. I'm bored of this

This is not to say "I TOLD YA, I KNEW IT". This is just to teach ourselves and forget about prejuices when it comes to Eurovision. When a song is good and convincing on the stage, people will vote for it, even if it's not very ESC-ish. What happened with Netherlands this year was the best example

 

[LalehForWD]

DJ Schmolli - Every Breath After The Storm (Police vs. Common Linnets mashup)

Sorry if this has been mentioned already (<<click image>> to listen)

 

[FoxOfShadows]

Part 2.

I will say it grew on me but it still surprises me how it did so well. Not that I'm complaining I think the performance was excellent and probably gained more votes that way but still, I never expected it to come top 15, let alone 2nd

 

[Terence]

I didn't say this won't qualify but runner-up was definitely a shocker for me indeed!

 

[12Points]

Last part. I'm bored of this

This is not to say "I TOLD YA, I KNEW IT". This is just to teach ourselves and forget about prejuices when it comes to Eurovision. When a song is good and convincing on the stage, people will vote for it, even if it's not very ESC-ish. What happened with Netherlands this year was the best example

I said that because i don't know how good they sang the song or how good the staging was

 

[Sammy]

Last part. I'm bored of this

This is not to say "I TOLD YA, I KNEW IT". This is just to teach ourselves and forget about prejuices when it comes to Eurovision. When a song is good and convincing on the stage, people will vote for it, even if it's not very ESC-ish. What happened with Netherlands this year was the best example

Yes. i was wrong! And as I said, it was a positve surprise for me. but i wouldn't say I had prejudices about the song. That would be a misunderstanding of the notion

 

[Matt]

Last part. I'm bored of this

This is not to say "I TOLD YA, I KNEW IT". This is just to teach ourselves and forget about prejuices when it comes to Eurovision. When a song is good and convincing on the stage, people will vote for it, even if it's not very ESC-ish. What happened with Netherlands this year was the best example

I think talking about prejudices while making predicitions seems a bit dramatic . All we can go by are patterns and the Dutch entry didn't scream televote favorite. That didn't really happen until the rehearsals started cause as you said it was convincing on stage . But then all we had were the preview videos. The beauty about Eurovision is that you never know for sure.

Plus until now country hasn't done well at Eurovision so this was a great outcome.

And to be fair, you also said a while ago that the song wouldn't be that popular with the juries. That's part of the prediction process, sometimes people are right and sometimes not so much, there is always a song (or two) that does a whole lot better (or worse) than any predictions. I mean there is a reason it was so low in the betting odds.

 

[joyster]

Well, there are European countries where country music is strong as well, e.g. Ireland or even Czech Republic. I don't think any genre is out of place in Eurovision.

I agree on that! It should not be...would be a very dull eurovision when there was only one or two sorts of music!

 

[ParadiseES]

And to be fair, you also said a while ago that the song wouldn't be that popular with the juries.

I'd have never predicted such a positive outcome until the semifinal, but I said this would at least qualify from the very first moment

 

[ParadiseES]

Yes. i was wrong! And as I said, it was a positve surprise for me. but i wouldn't say I had prejudices about the song. That would be a misunderstanding of the notion

When I talk about prejudices is that we -esc fans- tend to think "this will do well" or "this will not do well" only because of the musc style.

 

[Sammy]

I understand, but that's what I call expectations.
As "prejudice" has the connotation of "unjust" and "discriminatory" you would - by calling any statement about a possible placing o a song before the contest a prejudice - stop any discussion or opiniom exchange before the contest.
Also in my understanding, prejudices are something one has against people only.

 

[i anixi]

Also in my understanding, prejudices are something one has against people only.

No NONO
Prejudices are pre-conceived, mis-informed opinions. They can be directed at pretty much everything, like trees, for instance

 

[Sammy]

No NONO
Prejudices are pre-conceived, mis-informed opinions. They can be directed at pretty much everything, like trees, for instance

Please give me an example of a predudice against a tree!

but i know what you mean. so for instance if i had said - before having listened to the song- it would be a bad one because it's dutch or because it's country-style, that would be a prejudice.
yes - agreed. that would be one and in fact i would then have a prejudice against something that was not a person!
but the simple fact of saying : i don't think it's gonna be in the final (after i listened to it!) is not a prejudice in my opinion...

 

[i anixi]

Please give me an example of a predjudice against a tree!

Lol, it is possible believe me, but I'll give you another example I think we'll understand better. Chickens
There is a general accepted idea that they are stupid. Very stupid. In fact, we immediately connect the word chicken to this adjective even though you may not know anything about chickens.

Not true. When you actually get to know chickens (and roosters and hens) and get around to dealing with them you realise just how clever they can be. Granted, they'll never be dogs, of course not. They're not in the same league as they're not even supposed to be pets. But they've got their litle interesting ways, their organization, they can learn things, like although they stick to their habits they can be changed, and they can solve small problems in their daily life and get around them to reach something they wish. They're the most amazing birds really, if you stop to give them your attention. Turkeys, for instance, are much thicker. I love them too though anyway

See how unfair and prejudiced we all are against the poor things? I'm sure there are quite a few unfairly treated trees out there too, I just don't know that much about them

 

[i anixi]

but the simple fact of saying : i don't think it's gonna be in the final (after i listened to it!) is not a prejudice in my opinion...

No, I don't think that can be counted as prejudice either

By the way, I've just thought of a prejudice against a tree! Eucaliptus!

Mass production has turned them into a rather unpopular tree, but people forget how beautiful and unharmful these trees can really be on their own, or in groups of two or three. They may look striking in your (large) garden or farm. Not their fault that Man is using them to such an exaggerared, and nasty, extent. So there you have it!