Sweden SWEDEN 2025 - KAJ - Bara bada bastu

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

I may be alone in this, but for me it sounded like Måns said to himself:
"I'll do the same sort of song as I did 10 years ago, but it's OK if it's not as good. If Loreen can get away with what she did, well so can I!"

Yall still lying to yourselves that what Loreen did wasnt good? lmao
Tbh I think yall kinda deserve the blandness of Mans entry, it is everything yall were accusing tattoo of being ( bland, flavourless etc ), while Tattoo wasnt of course... Now get what a bland swedish entry is really like

 

[LoveHate]

Sweden needs a sauna revolution.

 

[Ted Talks]

Albania, Finland, Greece, - hell even Montenegro.
I would love to get something "more unique", "different", something which tells the listeners that it's a Eurovision winning entry (and not a dated Westernised pop song performed in English).
Sometimes we get the artsy-fartsy stuff - I know it's rare - but we got Portugal 2017, Italy 2021, Ukraine 2016+2022.
I would love to not get another bland radio-friendly pop song as a winner.

I just wish the pop-loving "former ESC participants" would be more eager to vote differently in Eurovision.

But why can’t a pop song be a ‘Eurovision winning entry’. Again there seems to be this weird snobbish attitude that emerges among the fandom that because something isn’t pop - or isn’t in English - it is infinitely better. That’s not true.

And for what it’s worth of the others you mention. Albania (basically the same song they send every year), Finland (sexualised quirkiness with no defined musical hook), Greece (powerfully performed but dull) and Montenegro (left no lasting impression on me at all - which isn’t a good sign).

I’m not saying that Revolution is an outstanding piece of music - it’s not - but again just dismiss it and anything like it as ‘radio friendly’ just smacks of arrogance.

And also, what is wrong with something radio friendly? Genuinely bemuses me that people think a song that gets national exposure to millions (who may not care about Eurovision) is a bad thing.

The contest should appeal far and wide in my opinion with songs reaching those who ordinarily avoid Eurovision. Sometimes that can be a Portugal 2017, other times it’s something more like a Tattoo. Both are equally valid - so I wouldn’t try and dismiss one as inherently better because it’s not pop or in English.

 

[lasse braun]

heja - the sauna boys have momently around 100000 hits more at youtube - revolution is over?
the staging from the sauna boys was extremly good and very funny - may I have hope?

 

[Datura]

Yall still lying to yourselves that what Loreen did wasnt good? lmao
Tbh I think yall kinda deserve the blandness of Mans entry, it is everything yall were accusing tattoo of being ( bland, flavourless etc ), while Tattoo wasnt of course... Now get what a bland swedish entry is really like

I'm a big fan of Loreen and when i first heard Tattoo i was underwhelmed, but the song has grown on me so much and i still listen to it a lot.
Her voice is breathtaking and what she did with her performance is physically really challenging, i can accept that people may not like it, of course its not everbodys taste, but u gotta respect it.

 

[jatojo]

I completely agree that Sweden winning again would be lame.

BUT...!

...how could i be mad if i can't think of a swedish entry after 2015 that sounds as good to me as "Revolution". The closest one would be "Hold Me Closer"

Hold Me Closer was a gem. My antipathy towards Melfest culminated that year, and yet I couldn't hope for any other song to win Eurovision.

'Revolution' is just too much. Pop in an ADHD version.

 

[Mainshow]

But why can’t a pop song be a ‘Eurovision winning entry’. Again there seems to be this weird snobbish attitude that emerges among the fandom that because something isn’t pop - or isn’t in English - it is infinitely better. That’s not true.

And for what it’s worth of the others you mention. Albania (basically the same song they send every year), Finland (sexualised quirkiness with no defined musical hook), Greece (powerfully performed but dull) and Montenegro (left no lasting impression on me at all - which isn’t a good sign).

I’m not saying that Revolution is an outstanding piece of music - it’s not - but again just dismiss it and anything like it as ‘radio friendly’ just smacks of arrogance.

And also, what is wrong with something radio friendly? Genuinely bemuses me that people think a song that gets national exposure to millions (who may not care about Eurovision) is a bad thing.

The contest should appeal far and wide in my opinion with songs reaching those who ordinarily avoid Eurovision. Sometimes that can be a Portugal 2017, other times it’s something more like a Tattoo. Both are equally valid - so I wouldn’t try and dismiss one as inherently better because it’s not pop or in English.

A pop song can be a good Eurovision winning entry - the narrative right now, however, leans to "Mans will win easily because there are no alternatives" - that's what I was addressing/arguing against. - If one opens one's eyes, I think that we already have very few entries which would make great winners (e.g. being interesting, competitive enough to attract televoters).
I highly and strongly disagree with you saying that Albania 2025 is "basically the same song they send every year". It's like saying that "Revolution" sounds like "Satellite".

We've had great pop songs as winning entries before - e.g. "Euphoria" or even "Heroes" - personally, I didn't like the latter but both songs have been pushing the then-modern-and-contemporary-sound (EDM-influenced/Guetta/Avicci-esque) or following trends.
"Revolution", however, isn't really "contemporary" like "Heroes" used to be - it's chasing trends which were en vogue 5-10 years ago.
I don't mind pop songs - but since it's Eurovision, I'd prefer some local flavour (maybe even like "Fairytale" or Denmark 2013).
If I want to see Westernised/Americanised pop songs win, I could watch The Voice and call it a day - if juries continue voting heavily in favor of pop songs in English, what's the point of ESC? Maybe we should all just send the national winners of The Voice and come up with a "The Voice - All stars edition" at the end of the year and call it a day.

Songs in other languages aren't superior to English songs because they are performed in other languages - they simply enrich the whole ESC / make ESC a valuable and necessary part of European culture and that's why I would like juries to be less stuborn and be more open-minded to ethnic sounds.

In the scope of ESC, English pop songs are equally legimitate, imo, but of less value for celebrating different cultures (one of the main points of why we have ESC).

 

[ManiaMuse]

It pains me to say it but at the moment Mans is winning Eurovision unless someone else comes along with a 'instant winner' song. Yes the song is entirely meaningless when you really analyse it but it delivers that 3 minute powerful performance, he brings the charisma, juries will love that it is radio friendly, it has a familiar yet annoying hook that sticks in your ear, it has the staging and there is the big climax.

It's safe and boring but at the same time very clever and calculated for maximum vote potential across both juries and televoters. Even when not picking up 12 points it will still be picking up 6-10 points from most countries.

Erika is going to be too far on the Kaarija side of the spectrum and will get crushed by the juries. Yes she will get 12s but she will also get low scores from some countries. I don't really see anything else that is a true competitor at the moment.

 

[Mrm]

Where is, 17 years old, Arwin Saman Ismail Osman from the 5th MF Heat originally from?

 

[LoveHate]

Where is, 17 years old, Arwin Saman Ismail Osman from the 5th MF Heat originally from?

Sweden.
(Ethnic kurd, I think).

 

[Charly]

Just think about it, KAJ deals a winning blow to Måns, which gives Erika Vikman a win, which brings the contest to Tampere 2026, which we get to enjoy a Bada Bastu!

 

[lasse braun]

gap now at 161000 hits.


update 194000 hits!

 

[SamanthaJones69]

So this mediocre song will win thanks to yet again the Eurovision Swedish staging contest… and another jury caused victory. How utterly boring!

 

[Anthony Tesla]

I come from NormieLand.

Yes, Revolution will win Melo and probably will win Eurovision.

 

[Datura]

i'm still not fond of the idea of mans winning esc and i still find it not "worthy" of being a winner (well no i can't say that either, i just think it's not very inspired song or anything i'd WANT from a winner) but i have to admit: the song popped up in my head several times today, so something seems to be working...

 

[Yazy]

I would actually be down with Sweden winning again in Basel........if they send the sauna gentleman.

 

[Sammy]

"Revolution" is the first NF-Entry of the season that actually got me hyped.
Mans is the first NF-participant this season that actually tries to get those 300+ Jurypoints.

Really?? No way!!! And that coming from you! I am baffled! For real!

 

[lasse braun]

gap now at 161000 hits.


update 194000 hits!

now we have reached the 300000+ zone - bookies drunken?
meanwhile they have mans at 61% - it seems momently,that mans will not win the public voting and then we have jurys and jurys make "things" in the last years - a good example is the jury win from keiino in norway last year.

 

[Romeo]

Gooooooo AmenA!

Can we call plagiarism on outfits? It’s a slightly adapted version of France 2007 isn’t it?

 

[Romeo]

Winners of polls in previous heats:

1. Maja Ivarsson
2. Klara
3. Dolly Style

None of them won the heat!

But Dolly Style is my most listened to MF song this year so the polls are incorrect and I’m super smart so I’m probably correct!

Also… I don’t like this new AC thing. Last year we saw the most recent heat AC songs win because they’re the most recent and they were fresh in people’s minds. I get the biggest voted song going through but what happens like a few years ago if the votes fail? Like when Theoz’s heat had voting errors?

I don’t like the fact that it’s too easy to manipulate when it comes to voting for a song you loved from 5 weeks ago compared to the song you loved tonight. The heat 5 songs will always have the upper hand when the final finalist is voted on