Sweden SWEDEN 2016 - Frans - If I Were Sorry

[Gera11]

Is it the live performance? The build up? The genre? The clip? So This song has no redeeming qualities whatsoever? Im not expecting people to give 12, 10 or even 8 points, but a little realism could be on its place. If you dont like it, give it 1 or 2 points. But i believe that most 0 points are out of dissapointment over actual hate of the song.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Considering I gave 0 to Greece also, can't say I'm dissapointed my favourite lost in the fictional NF they hosted I save my 1 2 3 for songs that are crap, but have an interesting thing in them. This song has absolutely none. And the live performance it's making it waaay worse.

 

[Lupus]

I just dont see it as a coincidence that in polls where eurovision favourires dont win get massive anounts of dislikes or 0 points. But these people never give a reason, you just hate the song because you hate it. Is it the live performance? The build up? The genre? The clip? So This song has no redeeming qualities whatsoever? Im not expecting people to give 12, 10 or even 8 points, but a little realism could be on its place. If you dont like it, give it 1 or 2 points. But i believe that most 0 points are out of dissapointment over actual hate of the song.

It may just be me, but surely the point of this survey is to show how many points you'd give this song at ESC? In that case, I'll be giving this 0, just as I'll be giving my 11th favourite 0. Why on earth would I give it 1 or 2 when it's about a zillion miles away from my 9th/10th placers?! I can assure you that disappointment plays no part in my feelings about this song. It does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever, whether it came from Sweden, Slovenia or Spain. My disappointment is entirely directed towards Sweden as they normally send entries I adore and this time they've sent something I really dislike.

 

[lavieenrose]

I just dont see it as a coincidence that in polls where eurovision favourires dont win get massive anounts of dislikes or 0 points. But these people never give a reason, you just hate the song because you hate it. Is it the live performance? The build up? The genre? The clip? So This song has no redeeming qualities whatsoever? Im not expecting people to give 12, 10 or even 8 points, but a little realism could be on its place. If you dont like it, give it 1 or 2 points. But i believe that most 0 points are out of dissapointment over actual hate of the song.

The production gives me none of the comfort that I need from a good pop song, and the artist's voice is incredibly thin, expressing nothing and conflating "twisting vowels" with "being interesting." But now I'm just nitpicking to try and bring down a favorite, aren't I?

 

[Matt]

I just dont see it as a coincidence that in polls where eurovision favourires dont win get massive anounts of dislikes or 0 points. But these people never give a reason, you just hate the song because you hate it. Is it the live performance? The build up? The genre? The clip? So This song has no redeeming qualities whatsoever? Im not expecting people to give 12, 10 or even 8 points, but a little realism could be on its place. If you dont like it, give it 1 or 2 points. But i believe that most 0 points are out of dissapointment over actual hate of the song.

I wouldn't worry about the polls too much. It's true that in some cases they are knee jerk reactions. And I'm sure there are a good amount of zero pointers based on dissatisfaction with the results. But this also isn't a scientific poll to measure the quality of an entry. It's very possible that a lot of people just don't like it. Keep in mind that the majority didn't even watch MF so they may not even know what else was in the running and they just dislike the song based on their personal taste.

And the poll should not be taken into consideration to predict the outcome. Keep in mind, even a song with tons of dislikes might do really well at the contest as you vote FOR a song and not AGAINST it. Being a polarizing song isn't always a bad thing. They may not win but can still score.

 

[ES2011]

The production gives me none of the comfort that I need from a good pop song, and the artist's voice is incredibly thin, expressing nothing and conflating "twisting vowels" with "being interesting." But now I'm just nitpicking to try and bring down a favorite, aren't I?

According to This forum, This song is far from a favourite
Ill doubt This song Will win, but what you said is for me is indeed too little criticism to give it 0. Im just trying to point out the overreaction of This community when it comes to sweden and fan favourites missing out

 

[Lupus]

His job is to spread rumors? As a tabloid?

When it comes to how an artist comes across, how else does one report things? Matt made it crystal clear that he was passing on information he had from people who'd met him as opposed to trying to make it seem like established fact. I don't quite understand what you expect. Matt said he'd find out for himself when he meets Frans in May, but for now he goes off the thoughts of those who have met him, just as I'm sure we all do when it comes to new people.

 

[lavieenrose]

According to This forum, This song is far from a favourite
Ill doubt This song Will win, but what you said is for me is indeed too little criticism to give it 0. Im just trying to point out the overreaction of This community when it comes to sweden and fan favourites missing out

I'm sorry my criticism doesn't meet your standards for a 0. What would, if I may ask?

 

[ES2011]

I'm sorry my criticism doesn't meet your standards for a 0. What would, if I may ask?

Terrible lyrics, unoriginal melody, bad Voice, horible videoclip and feeling of Being cheap. Think of
But if a thin Voice and "lack of comfort" are enough for you to see it as one of the worst songs ever, i believe you

 

[lavieenrose]

Terrible lyrics, unoriginal melody, bad Voice, horible videoclip and feeling of Being cheap. Think of
But if a thin Voice and "lack of comfort" are enough for you to see it as one of the worst songs ever, i believe you

I actually considered adding a comment on the lyrics to my post, but I thought "thin voice that expresses nothing" just about covered it. Any set of lyrics can be sold well by a strong enough performer I think. Take for instance - those lyrics are indeed rather hackneyed, but he sings them in such a way that I feel huge amounts of honesty and heart from them. Again - not going to force everyone to agree with me on that. I chose the words I chose because the lyrics become irrelevant collections of letters rather than words thanks to his bland non-presence on the song, and even if Pablo Neruda wrote the lyrics, they would come across horribly because they're being sung by a performer who doesn't convince me at all.

EDIT: In isolation, I think they're still terrible, in case that wasn't clear.

 

[TheLordMarbury]

Well I'm perfectly okay with this song winning. I would have preferred it if Panetoz had won because they're just so much fun, but I knew that it would never happen so I didn't have a horse in this race either way. But it's nice that we're not sending another traditional pop/dance song or big ballad again and are at least trying something different. It may work, it may not work, but it's important to at least try doing different things. Also I'm greatly relieved that we're not represented on our home turf by something as awful as "You" this time aroud.

 

[Kairit]

Well, seems like there won't ever be a proper Eurovision season without drama in the Swedish thread.. Whaaat a mess.

 

[Swedenvision]

Maybe nothing special but it´s interesting that If i Were sorry is already on the Spotify top 50 viral chart in many european countries. Ofc that is not the same as the normal Spotify top chart. But no other ESC songs is on this charts...

Remember haters the more you talk about him, the more hype it will get, all publicity is good publicity.

 

[Sammy]

I don't know, what you all criticize about his voice or the song. Look how he has improved these last years.

 

[lavieenrose]

I don't know, what you all criticize about his voice or the song. Look how he has improved these last years.

Masterpiece. Would win Eurovision 2016 and deserve it.

 

[Carian]

I actually considered adding a comment on the lyrics to my post, but I thought "thin voice that expresses nothing" just about covered it. Any set of lyrics can be sold well by a strong enough performer I think. Take for instance - those lyrics are indeed rather hackneyed, but he sings them in such a way that I feel huge amounts of honesty and heart from them. Again - not going to force everyone to agree with me on that. I chose the words I chose because the lyrics become irrelevant collections of letters rather than words thanks to his bland non-presence on the song, and even if Pablo Neruda wrote the lyrics, they would come across horribly because they're being sung by a performer who doesn't convince me at all.

EDIT: In isolation, I think they're still terrible, in case that wasn't clear.

I get what you are saying. What bothers you is that he doesnt know to interpret well the song in your opinion. I have also issues with singers who cant do it - regardless if they are technically flawless or they miss every note.

As regards Swedish entry this year, it is an okey song, but surely not a winner. No matter what charts say. Last year Slovenia was high, and we all remember where it ended. So, you dont have to be hateful towards each and everyone who says he/she dislikes your entry. Or?

 

[GWTW1939]

I don't know what he's like off stage, since I haven't paid any attention to that yet, but to me on stage he looks like he was valedictorian in douche class. His hand gestures and facial expressions are a complete turn off and he carries himself like one of those people who think their too cool for school. He doesn't have the star quality in other areas to get away with that

 

[Carian]

I don't know what he's like off stage, since I haven't paid any attention to that yet, but to me on stage he looks like he was valedictorian in douche class. His hand gestures and facial expressions are a complete turn off and he carries himself like one of those people who think their too cool for school. He doesn't have the star quality in other areas to get away with that

LOL, I think your comment is a bit too harsh. Are you trying to get yourself hung by Swedes? :shock:

After all, Frans is just a kid. A bit ... too confident of himself, but he will grow up and realize that it is not cool to be a valedictorian in douche class

 

[GWTW1939]

LOL, I think your comment is a bit too harsh. Are you trying to get yourself hung by Swedes? :shock:

After all, Frans is just a kid. A bit ... too confident of himself, but he will grow up and realize that it is not cool to be a valedictorian in douche class

He gives me that same vibe Justin Bieber and Eric Saade give and I can't stand them either Except even if I hate admitting it Justin and Eric do have some semblances of star quality that Frans is really lacking. So I get why their popular but I'm still confused by the whole Fransmania thing Sweden is currently in. I hope you're right and he does grow up and lose some of that atitude he currently posses although I think today's culture for some reason seems to encourage it.

 

[Carian]

He gives me that same vibe Justin Bieber and Eric Saade give and I can't stand them either Except even if I hate admitting it Justin and Eric do have some semblances of star quality that Frans is really lacking. So I get why their popular but I'm still confused by the whole Fransmania thing Sweden is currently in. I hope you're right and he does grow up and lose some of that atitude he currently posses although I think today's culture for some reason seems to encourage it.

Firstly, Justin Bieber is in the league of his own. No one can get even close to that 3
Eric Saade... Well, he promised his girl he would be popular, but hey, is he? So, who cares.
Frans... Ah, Swedes are funny people, but I like their nationalistic spirit: they support their entry no matter what But of course, their support doesn't decide who will win in the end. So, let them have their Fransmania. But, can you imagine what will be if he flops badly in ESC this year? Poor Frans.

 

[Gambit]

It's.. just bad. Nothing special. 2 points, because it's not the worst but deserves nul. However if Sweden wouldn't be the winner of the last year, I'd say this shouldn't qualify to the final.