SWEDEN 2012 - Loreen - Euphoria

[drhierbas]

I also complain about her mumbling and the fact that I can't see her face...it's weird imo...

Loreen mentioned in an interview last night that G:son and Peter Boström had been reminding her to NOT sing the accapella version where she for some reason "mumbles" but to sing with better pronunciation like in the official version. She said she missed that but noticed the mistake halfway through and that the first sentence was acoustic i.e. mumbling and then she switched to the correct one. But hey this is Eurovision, maybe not the worlds best singing contest I mean Dima, Lena and those horrible azerians could sing for crappers.

 

[rajo]

Sweden really sounds like something I used to dance to fifteen years ago.

And if it was a yelling at technobeats contest, I don't see a chance for Sweden to win this.

But Sweden is still the favourite, also supported by the Final draw now.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

I will give it to you, great performance last night. Awesome!

 

[FallenAngelII]

I will give it to you, great performance last night. Awesome!

What happened to Loreen being a horrible singer?

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

What happened to Loreen being a horrible singer?

She sang well last night. Im not going to come and lie, am I?

 

[CypriotGirl]

Previous winners and their final draws.
1998 8
1991 8

Cyprus shares a possibility too!, I see!

Btw, Loreen was great last night. It could be not her best performance, but she was by far the best last night! And yes, I got that "winner" feeling!

 

[DominikS]

Did anyone else think she was quite shouty in the chorus last night? I think it was the fault of the sound mix though - watching the eurovision.tv video, the performance was much better.

 

[A-lister]

Sweden really sounds like something I used to dance to fifteen years ago.

And if it was a yelling at technobeats contest, I don't see a chance for Sweden to win this.

But Sweden is still the favourite, also supported by the Final draw now.

You do realize that Sweden is very much in-trend right? It's probably one of the most "in-trend" entries this year. The 90's is BACK baby, just turn on the radio and go to the clubs.

 

[A-lister]

Anyways, all you haters WILL get your wishes come true, Loreen will not win, and it's her own fault. She picked the wrong country and really the wrong occasion to act Mother Theresa in.

For you who read Swedish: http://www.svd.se/kultur/loreen-mitt-i-diplomatiskt-drama_7226897.svd

It's nice and all, but it's utterly stupid. She's in an authoritarian corrupt country and considering previous "incidents" in Eurovision, even IF she is the legitimate winner, the numbers can very will be fixed behind the scenes to her disadvantage.

Also, may I add that some of the criticism against Azerbaijan is totally taken out of context. While some of it is legit, some of it is just based on total lack of knowledge of the context. I have to say that some criticism have been totally unfair. Yes, the regime needs to work on alot of things, but if someone really pays attention to some of the GOOD things they do and some of the oppositional groups they have to fight against... one would understand that it's not really that "black and white" (as Kaliopi would put it)

I hope this won't cause her chances for victory, but I'm afraid it might. To her defense though, it's not really as she actively spoke out about anything, she just visited these groups as a sort of "field-trip" because she was interested to hear what they got to say.

 

[rajo]

You do realize that Sweden is very much in-trend right? It's probably one of the most "in-trend" entries this year. The 90's is BACK baby, just turn on the radio and go to the clubs.

I am not into radio and club music. But I actually liked Robert Miles

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

A-lister, standing up for suffering people and their rights and liberties is much, MUCH more important than winning Eurovision. She did a great thing with what she did!

 

[A-lister]

I am not into radio and club music. But I actually liked Robert Miles

Ok, well almost everything for the past year or so is heavily influenced by the 90's Euro-club sound, so her song I'd say is very current sounding.

 

[A-lister]

A-lister, standing up for suffering people and their rights and liberties is much, MUCH more important than winning Eurovision. She did a great thing with what she did!

She's there to compete in music. Eurovision should not be a political platform.

Eventhough I agree that it's a "noble" thing, the timing is idiotic and it'll probably cause her the victory. Naivety is never cute... she's the only artist in this edition that has done such a thing.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

She's there to compete in music. Eurovision should not be a political platform.

Eventhough I agree that it's a "noble" thing, the timing is idiotic and it'll probably cause her the victory. Naivety is never cute... she's the only artist in this edition that has done such a thing.

It is morally irresponsible to go to a country with a regime such as Azerbaijan's, and pretend as if everything is alright and ignore what's happening, when it's very bad.
I wish that Engelbert had taken a line on this like Loreen has, instead (unfortunately) when asked about it he kept hushed up.

Victory means very little in the scheme of things. I will view her as a better person if she is has raised awareness to the terrible crimes than if she's a Eurovision winner. If Sweden doesnt win because you stood up to that regime, then you should be very proud of yourselves!!

 

[drhierbas]

She's there to compete in music. Eurovision should not be a political platform.

Eventhough I agree that it's a "noble" thing, the timing is idiotic and it'll probably cause her the victory. Naivety is never cute... she's the only artist in this edition that has done such a thing.

Well Eurovision IS a political platform. I guess you're just too damn blind to see that the Azeris are using every possible moments to give themselves some credit. Have you totally missed all the annoying commercial videos before each act? Have you totally missed that Azerbaijan is in fact ruled by a dictator? That one of the incompetent hosts we see each night (the good looking one) is in fact his daughter? That his wife is the head of Eurovision in Azerbaijan and on top of that that the dictators son in law will perform as main act in the final tomorrow?

I don't really you what you're after, has it been that bad with no ESC victories the last couple of years? Or is the picture of a sad and depressed Danny Saucedo that burnt into your retina?

 

[A-lister]

It is morally irresponsible to go to a country with a regime such as Azerbaijan's, and pretend as if everything is alright and ignore what's happening, when it's very bad.
I wish that Engelbert had taken a line on this like Loreen has, instead (unfortunately) when asked about it he kept hushed up.

Victory means very little in the scheme of things. I will view her as a better person if she is has raised awareness to the terrible crimes than if she's a Eurovision winner. If Sweden doesnt win because you stood up to that regime, then you should be very proud of yourselves!!

I don't agree, this is not Eurovision Congeniality Contest, and frankly I'm not proud because I think it's naive and she should focus on winning instead. Sometimes you just have to realize that there's a moment for everything.

Also, as I wrote on the other page, the same Western critics who now helped to put islamists to rule Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Morocco, are the same people that blindly and naively hates on the Azeri regime. I think they should get some context knowledge before shouting out loud. Not saying everything is good there, obviously not, but it could be far worse and part of the "poor opposition" would definitely make it FAR FAR worse.

 

[A-lister]

Well Eurovision IS a political platform. I guess you're just too damn blind to see that the Azeris are using every possible moments to give themselves some credit. Have you totally missed all the annoying commercial videos before each act? Have you totally missed that Azerbaijan is in fact ruled by a dictator? That one of the incompetent hosts we see each night (the good looking one) is in fact his daughter? That his wife is the head of Eurovision in Azerbaijan and on top of that that the dictators son in law will perform as main act in the final tomorrow?

I don't really you what you're after, has it been that bad with no ESC victories the last couple of years? Or is the picture of a sad and depressed Danny Saucedo that burnt into your retina?

Ehm? I know very well Eurovision is a political platform (unfortunately), and because I'm NOT blind to that and what country is hosting it (and their track-record of dubious behavior in past Eurovision), I know that what she's doing might very well cause her victory. However if I WAS blind, I would say "go girl!".

I hated Danny's entry so what's your point? Loreen was my favorite in MF and she's my favorite in this year's ESC, that's why it annoys me that she might throw everything away on acting the typical Swedish "morality watcher".

Thank God though she didn't actively say something, she just went there as a field-trip, so it could be worse. But in the eyes of the regime, she already done too much and that might cause her the victory.

I'm sorry Swedes always want to be so "good and nice", but there's a time and moment for everything, ethically good can turn into just naive and stupid.

 

[ringofire]

Loreen was great, but I think she's lil bit overrated. Surprisingly some other contestants like Ukraine, Lithuania, Serbia & Estonia were very impressive last nite and they made Loreen become not the only one who made the show.

Anyway, I think it will be wiser if we give judgement after we see all the contestants singing on the same stage in the Grand Final.
Because it's about the competition. They have to be judged based on their performances on the same stage not only based on their popularity.

 

[A-lister]

Loreen was great, but I think she's lil bit overrated. Surprisingly some other contestants like Ukraine, Lithuania, Serbia & Estonia were very impressive last nite and they made Loreen become not the only one who made the show.

Ukraine and Estonia over-sung their entries, Gaitana screamed and Estonia's singer did a vocal show-off which actually killed some of the essence of the song. More is not always better, in those cases I would say .. tone it down!

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

I don't agree, this is not Eurovision Congeniality Contest, and frankly I'm not proud because I think it's naive and she should focus on winning instead. Sometimes you just have to realize that there's a moment for everything.

Winning isnt everything, and it is not as if Sweden hasnt won before or even fairly recently!

Also, as I wrote on the other page, the same Western critics who now helped to put islamists to rule Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Morocco, are the same people that blindly and naively hates on the Azeri regime. I think they should get some context knowledge before shouting out loud. Not saying everything is good there, obviously not, but it could be far worse and part of the "poor opposition" would definitely make it FAR FAR worse.

That's the reason I dont want the Arabic and North African nations in Eurovision. We'd have the problems of Azerbaijan multiplied. What happens with the Arab Spring is nothing to do with Eurovision. What happens in Azerbaijan is now to do with Eurovision, particularly as the regime is trying to bombard us with their sh*tty propaganda. We must not stand for it!