Split jury-televote results revealed!

[WorldSong]

Re: Split jury-televotes results revealed!

tbh, I can't understand why juries supported so eagerly.
(no offense to Ukrainian members here, just commenting on the song )

Agreed. I liked the performance, but I wasn't overly keen on her vocals

 

[Mozz]

So... making a fool out of yourself gets you points nowadays?

Yes, maybe, especially if paired with some eccentrism, vocal acrobatics etc.. Presenting an energetic act if the song itself is horrible sometimes works magic. I'm just trying to get a grip on how jury members watch Eurovision.

 

[A-lister]

So... making a fool out of yourself gets you points nowadays?

Seems so... and it's laughable that people say that juries brought some 'class' into the voting... the type of entry they rewarded was really one of the worst of the past decade... it makes "We are the winners" and those Latvian pirates look like masterpieces.

 

[AdelAdel]

BTW, is there like a full table of votes so we can see who gave points to who?

 

[Mozz]

But these are all assumptions. We can only now the truth if these jury members are interviewed.

There should also be a survey of the average Eurovision voter. Only then we can get a hold of why for example there's such a discrepancy between the jury votes for Ukrains entry and the televoters opinion on Ukrains entry.

^^ But of course this all will never happen and will remain just ideas.

 

[A-lister]

BTW, is there like a full table of votes so we can see who gave points to who?

EBU seem not to be big fans of transparency, I can't recall they ever revealed the split votes for each country... it seems to be up to the national broadcasters to reveal it themselves if they want to.

I might be wrong however.

 

[Jukica]

They didn't post full split votes the last year as well, so I don't think that they will post this year

 

[Matt]

EBU seem not to be big fans of transparency, I can't recall they ever revealed the split votes for each country... it seems to be up to the national broadcasters to reveal it themselves if they want to.

I might be wrong however.

They did reveal the full voting scores by country in 2009 but not since that day.

 

[A-lister]

They did reveal the full voting scores by country in 2009 but not since that day.

Ok... yeah cause I can't recall anything really.

I don't really like this behavior tbh, I prefer transparency.

 

[AlekS]

I've been always saying that we don't really benefit on blind voting, rather people liking our entries. Blind voting exists in ESC of course but it's no so big/dramatic like some of us think.

Not gonna fall to subjective cra... stuff and say "zomg! These particular entries deserved to finish higher" (lol)
After talking to 1 person from our jury and hearing what 1 ESC participant said few weeks ago I will never spend any single euro-cent on this "voting". I feel sorry for some delegations who had to spend money on participation fee and expected something.

Personally I watch it only because of performances.

 

[Matt]

After talking to 1 person from our jury and hearing what 1 ESC participant said few weeks ago I will never spend any single euro-cent on this "voting". I feel sorry for some delegations who had to spend money on this contest.

??? I'm curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sean]

I'm surprised at the jury ranking of Georgia but it was an incredible performance - it turned around lots of people's opinions of the song. I'm more surprised at the jury rankings of Montenegro and San Marino!

 

[A-lister]

I'm surprised at the jury ranking of Georgia but it was an incredible performance - it turned around lots of people's opinions of the song. I'm more surprised at the jury rankings of Montenegro and San Marino!

Yeah, it turned so many people around it ended up dead last in its semi

Sorry, but there's no excuse for so called musical experts even rewarding that mess any point at all. It makes me scared that they only reward vocals but couldn't care less about the songs.

Bad performances shouldn't be rewarded, but why should bad songs?

 

[AlekS]

??? I'm curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll PM you
Not interested in sharing my opinions in this thread because I've already did that until the contest )))

 

[AdelAdel]

I've been always saying that we don't really benefit on blind voting, rather people liking our entries. Blind voting exists in ESC of course but it's no so big/dramatic like some of us think.

Not gonna fall to subjective cra... stuff and say "zomg! These particular entries deserved to finish higher" (lol)
After talking to 1 person from our jury and hearing what 1 ESC participant said few weeks ago I will never spend any single euro-cent on this "voting". I feel sorry for some delegations who had to spend money on participation fee and expected something.

Personally I watch it only because of performances.

So... what did this jury member and ESC participant say?

 

[AdelAdel]

I'll PM you
Not interested in sharing my opinions in this thread because I've already did that until the contest )))

Could you PM me to?

 

[RainyWoods]

The act, the stage performance, the energy.

Some people may be constantly hammering on the fact that this is a song contest, but that's simply not how it in reality works.

For clarity: Georgia's entry is in my bottom 5 this year. I dislike it.

Exactly. It may seem weird and not how people like it but people are voting on more than one thing. Dare I say the strange stage performance of Sweden helped it win and become such a favourite because without it, it's a club song we have heard a million times before. Im pretty sure Loreen's unusual performance helped her get the win and votes. People like things that stick out. As rubbish as "I'm A Joker" is, it was one of the most entertaining performances of the night. It was my mothers favourite quite bizarrely as well.

 

[A-lister]

Exactly. It may seem weird and not how people like it but people are voting on more than one thing. Dare I say the strange stage performance of Sweden helped it win and become such a favourite because without it, it's a club song we have heard a million times before. Im pretty sure Loreen's unusual performance helped her get the win and votes. People like things that stick out. As rubbish as "I'm A Joker" is, it was one of the most entertaining performances of the night. It was my mothers favourite quite bizarrely as well.

Again, what people? It ended up last!

There's nothing wrong with originality, but the song was awful on every aspect objectively speaking.

 

[rajo]

??? I'm curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me too.....

 

[RainyWoods]

Again, what people? It ended up last!

There's nothing wrong with originality, but the song was awful on every aspect objectively speaking.

Jury people.. maybe in the hall it was easier for them to get caught up in it. Maybe they were drugged. I just think it's a massive troll song and Anri knows this as well

Of course.. if we were to be really dark and dodgy, we could suggest that juries voted for Anri so as to give their own countries more of a chance