Slovenia SLOVENIA 2019 - Zala Kralj & Gašper Šantl - Sebi
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Oh boy... I don't even know where to start.
First of all, I was not 100%, but one billion percent sure that Raiven will win. And any other outcome would come as a huge surprise. Considering all the hype around Raiven before the preselection I think most of us can agree that yesterday's results were a complete shock. Wether it was a positive or a negative one, that's up to individuals.
I can imagine how disappointed Raiven is. All the hype, the promotion she had on Facebook, Instagram... I get it. And I do believe she should go to Eurovision (one day). In fact, I think she should've represent us back in 2016. But my opinion is that her 2016 song was the best one out of all three EMA songs. I have this feeling that with every song from 2016 on she is becoming less and less herself, while the performances are getting better and better.
When the host announced the winner my eyes almost fell out. My instant reaction was "what the f...". But in the end it made sense. Although I think Raiven had the best stage performance her type of song isn't a cup of tea to Slovenian people. And as I read comments on Slovenian websites, most of them didn't like either of the two songs. So my guess is that people didn't vote for "Sebi", they were voting against "Kaos".
My favourites were Ula and Lumberjack, but I expected for Ula and Raiven to sing again in the superfinal. Zala&Gašper were the act I least expected to win. Heck, I didn't even expect them to advance to the superfinal. I think no one, not even themselves expected that. Had to listen to their song a couple of times today and it's not that bad. I like their minimalistic approach, no make up, white clothes, staring at eachother. I just hope they keep the song in Slovenian.
I'd also like to say that I really likes the stage this year. The host could jump around a little bit less, I loved internal acts, have no idea what mister Grajić was doing in our jury and cringed a lot when I heard Lea about how she "can't f*cking believe it" (not a classy and smart thing to do when the mic is on).
Honestly, I do hope Zala&Gašper do well in Tel Aviv and I wish them good luck.
First of all, I was not 100%, but one billion percent sure that Raiven will win. And any other outcome would come as a huge surprise. Considering all the hype around Raiven before the preselection I think most of us can agree that yesterday's results were a complete shock. Wether it was a positive or a negative one, that's up to individuals.
I can imagine how disappointed Raiven is. All the hype, the promotion she had on Facebook, Instagram... I get it. And I do believe she should go to Eurovision (one day). In fact, I think she should've represent us back in 2016. But my opinion is that her 2016 song was the best one out of all three EMA songs. I have this feeling that with every song from 2016 on she is becoming less and less herself, while the performances are getting better and better.
When the host announced the winner my eyes almost fell out. My instant reaction was "what the f...". But in the end it made sense. Although I think Raiven had the best stage performance her type of song isn't a cup of tea to Slovenian people. And as I read comments on Slovenian websites, most of them didn't like either of the two songs. So my guess is that people didn't vote for "Sebi", they were voting against "Kaos".
My favourites were Ula and Lumberjack, but I expected for Ula and Raiven to sing again in the superfinal. Zala&Gašper were the act I least expected to win. Heck, I didn't even expect them to advance to the superfinal. I think no one, not even themselves expected that. Had to listen to their song a couple of times today and it's not that bad. I like their minimalistic approach, no make up, white clothes, staring at eachother. I just hope they keep the song in Slovenian.
I'd also like to say that I really likes the stage this year. The host could jump around a little bit less, I loved internal acts, have no idea what mister Grajić was doing in our jury and cringed a lot when I heard Lea about how she "can't f*cking believe it" (not a classy and smart thing to do when the mic is on).
Honestly, I do hope Zala&Gašper do well in Tel Aviv and I wish them good luck.
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I am not a huge fan of the outcome. We have soo many boring songs this year and this is one of them. Yeah, lots of people say there is that huge connection between the two on stage, but am I the only one who feels like everythings just oh so bland? 
My biggest concern is the way Slovenia chooses their winners. Was the superfinal only decided by judges or mainly my televote? If you let 10 songs compete, let them all be equally judged. Implement the voting procedure the Eurovision Song Contest has. Its much fairer. People tend to vote against acts in superfinals like these to prevent their least favourite from winning instead of being able to root for their fave. Its just a messy way of deciding a winner for me.
My biggest concern is the way Slovenia chooses their winners. Was the superfinal only decided by judges or mainly my televote? If you let 10 songs compete, let them all be equally judged. Implement the voting procedure the Eurovision Song Contest has. Its much fairer. People tend to vote against acts in superfinals like these to prevent their least favourite from winning instead of being able to root for their fave. Its just a messy way of deciding a winner for me.
Kairit
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I made a note in my head at the start of 2019 that the year would be all about being peaceful and chill. I'm glad Eurovision is helping me with that so far. 
I was obsessed with this song without knowing the lyrics, but knowing them now I love it a million times more. I can't believe a song like this is going to Eurovision. 
I was obsessed with this song without knowing the lyrics, but knowing them now I love it a million times more. I can't believe a song like this is going to Eurovision.
Ezio
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Raiven and her cows were in it to win the Kate Ryan award 2019, now they won nothing. Pity.
SwissKung
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A big 12 points from me, absolutely love the song which is mesmerizing and takes me somewhere, it's the perfect kind of song to listen to when walking at night alone.
This creates a moment, visually the performance was stunning and I can't wait to see it on the big stage.
Thank you Slovenia for providing us an excellent song, you and Italy are the only ones with a chance of winning Eurovision so far.
This creates a moment, visually the performance was stunning and I can't wait to see it on the big stage.
Thank you Slovenia for providing us an excellent song, you and Italy are the only ones with a chance of winning Eurovision so far.
Carian
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Kaja, I do agree with some of your points, but I strongly oppose to your conclusion that people voted for Zala and Gašper only because they voted against Raiven.
And this brings me to one important thing that I feel we should clarify at this point. Raiven is NOT a star in Slovenia. She is an artistic soul with very limited number of fans. Most likely Raiven has bigger following among ESC fans (of which I am most certain that tuorem is the biggest one) than in Slovenia itself. Sorry, I never hear Raiven's music on radio, I never hear she is concerting in Slovenia, and if you show up three times on EMA, it doesn't make you a star!!!! Basically, what I am trying to say is that my impression here is that a lot of Non-Slovenians here think that Raiven is an established brand on Slovenian stage. Well, guys, sorry, but you are wrong.
And for this very reason, Kaja, I disagree with your assessment that people in Slovenia voted against Raiven! People generally perceive as an artist for eclectic tastes and my opinion is that some viewers last night had just this impression that RTV SLO was shoving Raiven down their throat - and judging by Lea Sirk's reaction, this was obviously the intention. My opinion is that RTV SLO was convinced that people would choose Raiven if they put her in the superfinal against some weak act, however, they couldn't pick Fed Horses, for instance, because that would be too obvious for people. Anyways, I was rooting for Zala and Gašper from the beginning, and I voted for them, and I certainly don't think they won only because people have something against Raiven.
I hope that this clarification sheds some light on our EMA selection and why Raiven was not chosen to represent us. But on the other hand, Kaja is preaching gospel when saying that Zala and Gašper were both shook when declared winners
Ok, I need to intervene to support [MENTION=9441]RainyWoods[/MENTION]'s statement about René: he was so good! Vocally, he surprised me positively and the performance was charming and a bit quirky. I really enjoyed it. I'll never understand why literally everyone slept on him throughout the season. 
Because we know "Ne Poveš" is the worthy successor of "Hvala, Ne!" insofar as the song is that bop. I seldom download NF entries, but this one will be part of the exceptions. René, ma boy, you can come back anytime!!
Otherwise I also have to talk about Raiven. It's probably the last time I do so, because considering the results of yesterday's show, I think it's safe to guess we won't see her again anytime soon. I do agree with [MENTION=14174]Koori[/MENTION]'s and [MENTION=8866]Kaja[/MENTION]'s analyses: her failure was unexpected because we knew RTVSLO would get behind her and we thought she'd finally build on the momentum she had gained, and it probably backfired due to several reasons in the end. I honestly feel bad for her because I'm sure she took this failure personally. Raiven is one of the scarce visual pop artists Slovenia has, I like that she swims against the flow and has a vision of what she presents to the audience and how she must present it. She improved so much on every level since 2016, I hope she'll go to Eurovision someday, but part of me thinks that - unless she sells out (which would be saddening) - I'm not sure how she could win. I mean the format of EMA 2019 was the only way for RTVSLO to help her, but there's only so much they can do, the NF process is already so restrictive for televoters that the next step to finally have her would be an internal selection I'm surprised she seems to have more fans abroad than in her home country though. I get "KAOS" was a risky song to present to the selection, yet I didn't expect it to come across as niche or off-putting to the audience.
Anyway, what is done is done. I still believe "KAOS" would have been something at Eurovision, especially with the fantastic staging and visuals she concocted: what an improvement compared with the wonky presentation of "Zazarim"! Everything was so well-thought-out and she looked even more stunning than usual.
If you all have a few minutes to listen to her new EP "REM" released last night, click the spoiler button below. There are only five songs, so it won't take you forever. Buy "REM", download it, stream it: let's support our perpetual runner-up
My favourite songs from this EP are "13" and "Zala Kralj Babilona".
As for our winners Zala & Gasper, they have a 4-song EP out called "Štiri" including their entry "Sebi". See the spoiler to listen to the other songs.
Because we know "Ne Poveš" is the worthy successor of "Hvala, Ne!" insofar as the song is that bop. I seldom download NF entries, but this one will be part of the exceptions. René, ma boy, you can come back anytime!!Otherwise I also have to talk about Raiven. It's probably the last time I do so, because considering the results of yesterday's show, I think it's safe to guess we won't see her again anytime soon.
I do agree with [MENTION=14174]Koori[/MENTION]'s and [MENTION=8866]Kaja[/MENTION]'s analyses: her failure was unexpected because we knew RTVSLO would get behind her and we thought she'd finally build on the momentum she had gained, and it probably backfired due to several reasons in the end. I honestly feel bad for her because I'm sure she took this failure personally. Raiven is one of the scarce visual pop artists Slovenia has, I like that she swims against the flow and has a vision of what she presents to the audience and how she must present it. She improved so much on every level since 2016, I hope she'll go to Eurovision someday, but part of me thinks that - unless she sells out (which would be saddening) - I'm not sure how she could win. I mean the format of EMA 2019 was the only way for RTVSLO to help her, but there's only so much they can do, the NF process is already so restrictive for televoters that the next step to finally have her would be an internal selection I'm surprised she seems to have more fans abroad than in her home country though. I get "KAOS" was a risky song to present to the selection, yet I didn't expect it to come across as niche or off-putting to the audience.Anyway, what is done is done. I still believe "KAOS" would have been something at Eurovision, especially with the fantastic staging and visuals she concocted: what an improvement compared with the wonky presentation of "Zazarim"! Everything was so well-thought-out and she looked even more stunning than usual.
If you all have a few minutes to listen to her new EP "REM" released last night, click the spoiler button below. There are only five songs, so it won't take you forever. Buy "REM", download it, stream it: let's support our perpetual runner-up
My favourite songs from this EP are "13" and "As for our winners Zala & Gasper, they have a 4-song EP out called "Štiri" including their entry "Sebi". See the spoiler to listen to the other songs.
Ezio
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Slovenia is definitely in contention, as I see it. Although my personal score for the song is not exciting, I get what impact they could have this year.
Nicholas123
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This is absolutely beautiful!
blue00eyes
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It's boring she's just whispering through the whole song.
94ayd
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Wow, 5 seconds in and I'm already sold! So ethereal and hypnotic, the lyrics are also beautiful. Giving it points so far, because it's not my usual style, but this has big chances to do well and definitelly the right choice for . I believe it totally fits [MENTION=15456]Ezio[/MENTION]'s astrological prediction for a winner based on Jupiter transitting Saggitarius this year.
points so far, because it's not my usual style, but this has big chances to do well and definitelly the right choice for . I believe it totally fits [MENTION=15456]Ezio[/MENTION]'s astrological prediction for a winner based on Jupiter transitting Saggitarius this year.Wow, 5 seconds in and I'm already sold! So ethereal and hypnotic, the lyrics are also beautiful. Giving it
OMG PREACH! I was precisely thinking about his prediction.
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Kaja, I do agree with some of your points, but I strongly oppose to your conclusion that people voted for Zala and Gašper only because they voted against Raiven.
And this brings me to one important thing that I feel we should clarify at this point. Raiven is NOT a star in Slovenia. She is an artistic soul with very limited number of fans. Most likely Raiven has bigger following among ESC fans (of which I am most certain that tuorem is the biggest one) than in Slovenia itself. Sorry, I never hear Raiven's music on radio, I never hear she is concerting in Slovenia, and if you show up three times on EMA, it doesn't make you a star!!!! Basically, what I am trying to say is that my impression here is that a lot of Non-Slovenians here think that Raiven is an established brand on Slovenian stage. Well, guys, sorry, but you are wrong.
And for this very reason, Kaja, I disagree with your assessment that people in Slovenia voted against Raiven! People generally perceive as an artist for eclectic tastes and my opinion is that some viewers last night had just this impression that RTV SLO was shoving Raiven down their throat - and judging by Lea Sirk's reaction, this was obviously the intention. My opinion is that RTV SLO was convinced that people would choose Raiven if they put her in the superfinal against some weak act, however, they couldn't pick Fed Horses, for instance, because that would be too obvious for people. Anyways, I was rooting for Zala and Gašper from the beginning, and I voted for them, and I certainly don't think they won only because people have something against Raiven.
I hope that this clarification sheds some light on our EMA selection and why Raiven was not chosen to represent us. But on the other hand, Kaja is preaching gospel when saying that Zala and Gašper were both shook when declared winners
[MENTION=14374]Carian[/MENTION], I have never said that Raiven is a star in Slovenia. I personally think that if an artist competes at EMA and by some chance wins, their career goes downhill pretty soon (I think the only exeption to this was Nuša Derenda) and I also think Slovenia doesn't have stars, only well known personas. So to me, outside Eurovisoin community, Raiven is not a star (sorry, Raiven fans) and EMA has never been a competition that showed current music trends in Slovenia. As for the part where I wrote about her promotion this year... Yes, you're absolutely right, outside social media and Eurovision community she didn't get any extra promotion. It was mainly focused to social media, especially Instagram. Maybe some second class/Perez Hilton type websites wrote articles about her, but other than that, nothing.
What I meant was that yes, RTV SLO really pushed her this year and picked an act with lesser chances to compete against her (as you also implied in your post, which I agree 100% with). If you only look at selected participants and comments on Slovenian forums, most of them were complete no names (at least to me) and people thought this as well. Also, my personal opinion of why people didn't choose Raiven and thus voting "against Kaos" is in the viewers of EMA. Unlike most ESC fans most of them heard the songs for the first time yesterday and maybe thought it was too advanced for Slovenia or just didn't understand the song in general (like I wrote in my first post, the cup of tea part). I still think this year RTV SLO really wanted to send Raiven, seeing they missed oportunities to do so in 2016 and 2017 and did everything in their power to make that happen this year. Except that people thought different and (I sincerely apologize for my language) screwed RTV SLO just as RTV SLO has been screwing with the viewers for years.
Also, don't think I personally think Zala&Gašper won only because of this. I am sure people voted for them because they liked their song (I find their song very calming and interesting) and if I'd voted esterday, I'd vote for them. But it would just be interesting to find out how many people voted for them because they were fed up with RTV's forcing of Raiven (as I implied above).
It's not the first time people have chosen an "outsider" song over a favourite. 1998, 2005, 2008, 2010 are the preselections where that happened and I can think of right now. Or maybe I am completely wrong and the reason for this years outcome is something completely else.
But I am no expert, just a girl who has her opinion on things. And I do hope I explained some things better now
Ezio
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Melania Trump is a Slovenian star, not just a well-known persona
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Melania Trump is a Slovenian star, not just a well-known persona
Okay, fair enough, even though I personally don't see her that way.
But what I meant was that in the country we don't have stars. Here I didn't count any Slovenians who live abroad and are fairly known in their fields.
Please, "scandal" in Slovenia? [MENTION=9195]tuorem[/MENTION] [MENTION=11532]EscGeek[/MENTION]
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet-zabave/e...om-na-emi-zmago-bi-si-zasluzila-raiven/480342
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet-zabave/e...om-na-emi-zmago-bi-si-zasluzila-raiven/480342
Oh, gosh! It's about Sirk's reaction to Raiven's failure when she told her on stage she "couldn't believe it", to put it nicely. :? RTVSLO should have turned her mic off tbh.
We know Lea never sugar-coat things, and apparently she stood by her words afterwards. I think she should keep a low profile because 1) it's rude for Zala & Gasper (especially coming from a member of the jury) 2) it may actually harm Raiven even more as far as the public opinion is concerned and 3) it may actually put people off her own behaviour.