Romania ROMANIA 2019 - Ester Peony - On a Sunday

[Realest]

[MENTION=16481]BorisBubbles[/MENTION]

Alright, I understood your Point and I want to use this Occasion to apologise to all people who felt offended by my infelicitous choice of words.
But to my Defense, I never meant to put all LGTB-Member in a box, my Intention was just to clarify the Correlation between William and Debans Sexuality and Lauras Religious Views when I referred to them as "The Gays".

I dont agree with the Rest of your statement, since I saw how many (not all) LGBT-Member (I hope this Term sounds less offensive) haunted Laura with their Hate-Comments only because of her Religious Views and were #TeamanyonebutLaura without caring about the Songs/Competition and how lots of fans became hater. I also stick to my opinion, that The Wiwi-Guys voted based on lower Reasons since all circumstances fit together. Finally, I found your "Shut up" comment yesterday came over very aggressive and impertinent out of nowhere, but I wont discuss this any further

 

[BorisBubbles]

Ehh, I do not speak for the rainbow community, and neither do they speak for me. I only speak for myself, but I'm sure i'm not the only "Gay" who cares more about the entry itself than the person who sings it. (I'm pretty sure Alaska, RainyWoods, Mrm and Lavieenrose do, to name a few I'm certain of)

Either case, I accept your apology. This NF season has been dipped in a never before seen layer of vitriol and ugliness, best we don't proliferate it on this board as well.

 

[Mrm]

Ehh, I do not speak for the rainbow community, and neither do they speak for me. I only speak for myself, but I'm sure i'm not the only "Gay" who cares more about the entry itself than the person who sings it. (I'm pretty sure Alaska, RainyWoods, Mrm and Lavieenrose do, to name a few I'm certain of)

Either case, I accept your apology. This NF season has been dipped in a never before seen layer of vitriol and ugliness, best we don't proliferate it on this board as well.

Who are you actually? A stalker? You follow us, certain members here and then analyse us?

 

[BorisBubbles]

I'm just a pretty good judge of character

 

[Alaska49]

[MENTION=16481]BorisBubbles[/MENTION]

Alright, I understood your Point and I want to use this Occasion to apologise to all people who felt offended by my infelicitous choice of words.
But to my Defense, I never meant to put all LGTB-Member in a box, my Intention was just to clarify the Correlation between William and Debans Sexuality and Lauras Religious Views when I referred to them as "The Gays".

I dont agree with the Rest of your statement, since I saw how many (not all) LGBT-Member (I hope this Term sounds less offensive) haunted Laura with their Hate-Comments only because of her Religious Views and were #TeamanyonebutLaura without caring about the Songs/Competition and how lots of fans became hater. I also stick to my opinion, that The Wiwi-Guys voted based on lower Reasons since all circumstances fit together. Finally, I found your "Shut up" comment yesterday came over very aggressive and impertinent out of nowhere, but I wont discuss this any further

i still don't agree with the notion that wiwibloggs were out to get laura because the pieces don't fit - why expose themselves by choosing someone they had initially dismissed? why not downright give 0s to laura if they didn't care to hide it, since emmelie clearly didn't? why aren't the other two juries who 12ed ester and left laura in the middle held accountable too? even if there was riggage, it is much more likely that we simply have a montenegro situation in which the juries were informed TVR wanted ester to win, and the jurors played their roles, rather than william and deban going rogue by... voting the same way as two other jurors.

however i do accept your apology. sometimes we are not good at words.

 

[Ezio]

LOL wiwibloggs is done, no one will want to have these two hysterical cons in their national final ever and they shouldnt be there anyways. They are not experts, they are just youtubers and social media addicts with a taste for fame. Everyone can be a youtuber.

Love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnWhONIFe5w

 

[Sean]

Guys, while there are valid arguments to had and points to be raised, please be aware that this is still a public forum that is monitored and moderated and that personal attacks will not be dealt with lightly. We are all passionate Eurovision fans and sometimes emotions can boil over, I understand that, but this thread is being heavily monitored and any personal jibes against other members of this forum will be dealt with promptly and effectively, so please bear this in mind before you post. Thank you

 

[Ezio]

Eurovision is an event of love, peace, peace, love, building connections and the LGBTQ community has been a strong pillar for years, the competition wouldn't be what it is without it. I don't find it appropriate an outspoken homophobe would go represent any nation

I don't find it appropriate to label Eurovision a hetero-friendly, gay-owned event, because that is not about inclusivity at all anymore. And I don't find it appropriate to judge someone's performance by his mindset instead of merit. Eurovision might have changed Laura's view of the world, or not. But there's no credibility in shutting her out for what is supposedly in her heart. The pendulum could swing back and gays become the hunted and incarcerated again, which is what I do not wish for my own wellbeing.

No one knows if Sergey Lazarev is gayfriendly or a homophobe, but it doesn't matter as long as he looks hot and flexes his biceps for William to fondle inappropriately.

Someone is not a homophobe for opposing gay marriage. Many gays are not supporting the institution of marriage, because it is an old-fashioned, archaic concept and hypocritical when non-believers ask a priest for his blessing. That is not a valid argument to keep someone away from Eurovision.

 

[Alaska49]

Re: ROMANIA 2019

You know you're the only one that likes the song, right? It was voted in mockery. Can't explain the placing.

um i love this song? and clearly so do many people since it likely won its semifinal televote? stan talent pls

 

[Sammy]

I don't find it appropriate to label Eurovision a hetero-friendly, gay-owned event, because that is not about inclusivity at all anymore. And I don't find it appropriate to judge someone's performance by his mindset instead of merit. Eurovision might have changed Laura's view of the world, or not. But there's no credibility in shutting her out for what is supposedly in her heart. The pendulum could swing back and gays become the hunted and incarcerated again, which is what I do not wish for my own wellbeing.

No one knows if Sergey Lazarev is gayfriendly or a homophobe, but it doesn't matter as long as he looks hot and flexes his biceps for William to fondle inappropriately.

Someone is not a homophobe for opposing gay marriage. Many gays are not supporting the institution of marriage, because it is an old-fashioned, archaic concept and hypocritical when non-believers ask a priest for his blessing. That is not a valid argument to keep someone away from Eurovision.

But you do see the difference in having the opportunity and not taking it (because you think it's old-fashioned etc.) and rooting against the right to have the opportunity, right?

 

[Ezio]

But you do see the difference in having the opportunity and not taking it (because you think it's old-fashioned etc.) and rooting against the right to have the opportunity, right?

What do you care what I see? It's none of your business. I as an Eurovision artist would stay as far away as possible from wiwibloggers who only want to ask me about gay lifestyle choices instead of music and then boycott me if they don't like what I say.

 

[musicfan]

Eurovision was a big event well before Dana International (which was arguably a bad song anyway). And I would agree that there is room for differences of opinion on things like marriage (and also adoption), people can think differently and not be people who wish to make gay people criminal or persecuted. When Eurovision did put more emphasis on non-musical factors (like the whole #metoo thing with last year's winner) I wonder if the musical quality can suffer.

 

[Etanna]

Does anybody know what is actually going on? Is the voting really being investigated? Has Ester indicated how she feels about this and about going to Eurovision? Is there a precedent for this? So many questions I'm new to this and I'm completely confused and honestly quite put off by both the Romanian voting system and all the hatred that ensued. I feel really sorry for Ester, she's in a very difficult position even though she did nothing wrong. I hope the broadcaster will claim responsibility and explain themselves to the fans (and the artists) but I'm worried they'll just try to blame everyone else instead..

 

[Romeo]

not the best song but not the worst from the NF but most NFs don't select the best songs... chill out

 

[Ezio]

I don't know what's going on except for outrage on the Internet, but I hope something will go on. Wishfully thinking that Deban's and William's votes get cancelled and Laura Breton gets the ticket to Tel Aviv. Her song sounds expensive, like Top 3 in the Grand Final. Ester Peony is filler material that probably does not advance out of the semifinal.

 

[anto475]

It's not a bad song, I like it!

But the real polemic here should be why were wiwibloggs (the most insidious and vapid and annoying website on the planet) staff allowed to be jurors at this? You really have to wonder why they keep getting preferential treatment from the Eurovision and not other esc fan sites like ESCInsight, ESC+, ESCXtra, ESCKaz, or even ESCUnited (I would have included Oikotimes but let's be real here)

 

[Ezio]

not the best song but not the worst from the NF but most NFs don't select the best songs... chill out

It's the latest plague in Eurovision, that the best songs get sabotaged in their national finals. There is no need for juries in NF's because there is no diaspora or neighbour voting to be taken care of. It's Bullsh. and needs to go.

 

[anto475]

Someone is not a homophobe for opposing gay marriage.

Sorry, I hate to cut into your debate, but yes, someone is a homophobe for opposing gay marriage. If you think that same-sex couples who are in love should be denied the same rights as opposite-sex couples who are in love, then your view is homophobic.

 

[Ana Raquel]

i don't even know why some of you are mentioning lgbt people against gay marriage when it's obvious the reason laura is against it is not the same reason some lgbt people are

but ok choices

 

[Ezio]

Sorry, I hate to cut into your debate, but yes, someone is a homophobe for opposing gay marriage. If you think that same-sex couples who are in love should be denied the same rights as opposite-sex couples who are in love, then your view is homophobic.

Marriage is a lifestyle choice. I will never marry, and I have taken care of well of my partner that I have for four years now. There are enough laws in place to protect your loved ones, it doesn't need a priest and a church. It's vain. So, please boycott me now from ever entering Eurovision for any country. Thanks.