Romania ROMANIA 2019 - Ester Peony - On a Sunday

[EscGeek]

Laura isn't going, neither is Bella. Deal with it. I wasn't expecting Ester to win, but at least this year's random winner isnt a disaster.

How many times have i bitched about Emmelie de Forest's votes? Once

 

[lavieenrose]

Re: ROMANIA 2019

GET OVER WIWIBLOGGS CHANGING THEIR MINDS.

But but but Eric Kruger! And Gays! You're so INTOLERANT 1 1 1 1

 

[BorisBubbles]

1) Stop this Bullshit. Im no homophobe only because I tell them Gays my Opinion and think that many of them go too far with their aggressive LGBT-Propaganda and that they dont own the Contest although many of them wish they would.

Okay here's the thing: A of all, not all "Gays" are the same. I'm gay and I don't give two fucks about Laura being allegedly homophobic. My mom's Bulgarian and I know first-hand how generally unaccepting the cultures over there are towards the rainbow community. If I went on to hate literally *anyone* who went to Eurovision with the tiniest modicum of homophobia (a list which probably includes: Jacques, Yulia Samoilova, DoReDoS, Aram mp3, Polina Gagarina, Carola Häggkvist, Mans Zelmerlöw and many, many others), it would fucking mentally exhaust me.

What I, as a Eurovision blogger, look for are two things: Song and Show. Laura failed to provide either of those things for me, while several others in that NF did. Hence why I'm happy "Dear Father" lost.

In other words, you speak of The Gays as if we were all rooting for Laura to lose because of her allegedy homophobia and this simply isn't true. At all.

Now we move on to the thing Alaska is talking about, your behaviour re: the Gay community. I personally take offense at your insistence to refer to us by our sexuality, as if this is the only personality trait we posses. In referring to people as "The Gays" (and hilariously, refering to heterosexual folks as "UnGays"), you're effectively erasing our personalities, looks, ideas, opinions, basically everything other than our sexuality. That's why I attacked you when you consistently refered to Deban and William as "The Gay Jurors". They have names. Use them. They have different tastes and opinions. Distinguish between them. Your failure to do so shows not only your ignorance, but also a severe lack of social skills and I suggest you brush those up before you continue making posts anywhere on the internet.

2) I have no clue, what they thought about Bella, since they didnt react to them. I dont know who they wanted to win, I just know they wanted Laura to lose and that their Mindchange is unlikely.

They very clearly wanted Bella to win (and so did TVR, very obviously), moreso than they wanted Laura to lose. However, in the case that Bella loses to Laura, they can't just zero Laura and alienate her like they have The Humans last year. (They're bloggers after all and very much care for their audience) Nor can they give Bella 12 because otherwise their bias (AND TVR's attempts at pro-Bella rigging) would've been too blatant and they would've received massive backlash. This failed spectacularly, as you know, since both Laura and Bella lost anyway.

3) Stop this BS. I just liked her Song very much. And despite this Fact, Im not forbidden to state my opinion about those questionable Juryvotes. As half-Romanian I dont want such things to happen in this Country.

When 7 out of 8 posts you make in this thread are a selection of other people's opinions that agree with your own, I'm pretty sure we can correctly call it an #Obsession. Alaska is wrong in that Laura is your obssession. Always Being In The Right is.

 

[lavieenrose]

1) Stop this Bullshit. Im no homophobe only because I tell them Gays my Opinion and think that many of them go too far with their aggressive LGBT-Propaganda and that they dont own the Contest although many of them wish they would.

I'm not a homophobe just because I put those stuck-up intolerant Gays in their place!

 

[A-lister]

I think it doesn't matter if Romania use televote or jury vote, for some years now it seems the results are made up under the table anyways and those votes are just cover up so the issue is a more fundamental one and isn't based on the voting system. They need to get to the bottom with the corruption and bribery in this selection, until that is dealt with, it won't matter what voting system they use to cover it all up with.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Eurovision is an event of love, peace, peace, love, building connections and the LGBTQ community has been a strong pillar for years, the competition wouldn't be what it is without it. I don't find it appropriate an outspoken homophobe would go represent any nation

 

[Citelis]

Eurovision is an event of love, peace, peace, love, building connections and the LGBTQ community has been a strong pillar for years, the competition wouldn't be what it is without it. I don't find it appropriate an outspoken homophobe would go represent any nation

I totally agree but the problem in her case is that she is too young and people in that age do mistakes and can easily affected by older people of their family.

 

[lavieenrose]

Eurovision is an event of love, peace, peace, love, building connections and the LGBTQ community has been a strong pillar for years, the competition wouldn't be what it is without it. I don't find it appropriate an outspoken homophobe would go represent any nation

This is an interesting argument to have but not even the one some people are trying to oppose. By not actively bending the knee to a performer with homophobic statements in her past, two noted gay members of the Eurovision community are apparently aiding in the spread of "aggressive LGBT-Propaganda."

 

[Sammy]

Can we please stop infantilizing Laura? This argumentum ad misericordiam is really getting tiring. In several countries in Europe you can marry at the age of 16, you can vote at the age of 16, you are (at a very big extent) responsible juridically, you can drive a car, drink alcohol, have children and so on. So stop treating her as if she was in Kindergarten. This is a lack of respect!
She was proud and strong enough to take public (and political) action, so she's mature enough to be taken seriously. And of course to deal with the criticism.

 

[Sammy]

I'm not a homophobe just because I put those stuck-up intolerant Gays in their place!

or this one:
I'm not discriminating against gays just because I want them to be denied equal rights.

 

[florinho21]

these 2 tasteless & vindictive hags from wiwiblogs should never be allowed to vote in any other national finals as you can clearly see the agenda they have (ie pushing certain artists with questionable musical merits & voting based on their “political” beliefs), not only here, but in the past. Even in their videos & articles (by them alone), you can clearly see their agenda. Question is, are they being paid by shady elements? EBU should ban both of their accreditation and allow only other members of their team until they come clean.

 

[lavieenrose]

not only here, but in the past.

Since https://wiwibloggs.com/2014/05/03/armenia-wiwi-jury-reviews-aram-mp3-alone/44538/ when? https://wiwibloggs.com/2015/05/12/wiwi-jury-swedens-mans-zelmerlow-heroes/89067/

 

[lavieenrose]

Can we please stop infantilizing Laura? This argumentum ad misericordiam is really getting tiring. In several countries in Europe you can marry at the age of 16, you can vote at the age of 16, you are (at a very big extent) responsible juridically, you can drive a car, drink alcohol, have children and so on. So stop treating her as if she was in Kindergarten. This is a lack of respect!
She was proud and strong enough to take public (and political) action, so she's mature enough to be taken seriously. And of course to deal with the criticism.

We can get to the question of what should have been done about Laura's homophobic statements once the patently ridiculous accusation that anything WAS done about her homophobic statements is taken out to pasture.

Btw

argumentum ad misericordiam

Amazing.

 

[Mrm]

I hope this will stop at the page 150...

 

[lavieenrose]

I hope this will stop at the page 150...

Nooo. My aggressive LGBT-Propaganda will never end

 

[Mrm]

Nooo. My aggressive LGBT-Propaganda will never end

And your stealing gifs from me, from the Maltese thread as well, it seems..

 

[Ana Raquel]

I want to protest and say that I'm NOT a homophobic-phobic

I EVEN LIKE NOT ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ana Raquel]

Re: ROMANIA 2019

listened to the so called opera

living legend cezar ouatu is unbothered and it's my life remains the superior opera song

and fortunately my statement remains true

TALENT won

 

[vicki]

Re: ROMANIA 2019

and fortunately my statement remains true

TALENT won

You know you're the only one that likes the song, right? It was voted in mockery. Can't explain the placing.

 

[Ana Raquel]

Re: ROMANIA 2019

You know you're the only one that likes the song, right? It was voted in mockery. Can't explain the placing.

yes i know it got into first place with the public in the semi he was in just with votes of someone from a country that does not take part on eurovision
glad to be such an influencer