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GRAND FINAL LIVE

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crashworld said:
I agree. I know it's not Montaigne's fault. As much I as empathize with her and feel really bad for her, but if she qualifies to the grand final without being there in Rotterdam, I don't know how it will sits with me when the other delegations make the effort and took the risk to go down physically. The only way to right the situation is to send Montaigne again as Australia's representative in the future contest.
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I disagree, there is nothing unfair here. EBU clearly stated the rules and everyone had the same "opportunity" (depending on how you see it) to opt-out and go with heir taped performances instead.

It would be rather unfair if some worse entries manage to qualify just because they are "in-house", especially now when Australia finally stepped out of their comfort zone and started sending more interesting stuff for the past years.

Australia is super strict with their Covid measurements, and thus have almost no cases, it's not Montaigne's fault or her team's, they are required to follow the law and as much as we love Eurovision, it's not something Australian authorities would give a free-pass to and risk getting more Covid cases back.

I really hope she will be judged fairly on the song and entry she brings.
 
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Rafal slaying it :D And I'm here for it!!!! xheart
 
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I just have to say, that I love the work of Matt and the team, especially the brave Connor. And Matt is so soothing and likeable. I have a crush now and need to cool it off.
 
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wiwibloggs is praising Austria, escunited is totally bored. Either way, I don't know what's gonna happen.

On the positive: Vincent is a better singer than Paenda, but Limits will never be forgotten for me, it's dear to me even though it was sang so terribly
 
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randajad said:
Omg what’s sith ugly costumes with weird textures this year? Not you too Greece 😫
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I didn't watch Greece, but what's up with fashion here overall? I hate most. I am out of touch with trends and I hate buying clothes (save for hats xD). Is it what is trendy now?

I only really like what Vincent Bueno is wearing. But sure ... these are only rehearsals, many contestants may look very different at the actual contest.
 
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Don't know what to think of Austria's performance ... guess this is another one where I need to see the whole performance to judge.
 
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crashworld said:
I agree. I know it's not Montaigne's fault. As much I as empathize with her and feel really bad for her, but if she qualifies to the grand final without being there in Rotterdam, I don't know how it will sits with me when the other delegations make the effort and took the risk to go down physically. The only way to right the situation is to send Montaigne again as Australia's representative in the future contest.
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Except it is not Australia's delegation fault as far as I know but it is their government's fault. They wanted to show they do not give a shit about Eurovision. No good will on their part (oh irony) and maybe even flat-out malice, who knows?
 
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I disagree, there is nothing unfair here. EBU clearly stated the rules and everyone had the same "opportunity" (depending on how you see it) to opt-out and go with heir taped performances instead.

It would be rather unfair if some worse entries manage to qualify just because they are "in-house", especially now when Australia finally stepped out of their comfort zone and started sending more interesting stuff for the past years.

Australia is super strict with their Covid measurements, and thus have almost no cases, it's not Montaigne's fault or her team's, they are required to follow the law and as much as we love Eurovision, it's not something Australian authorities would give a free-pass to and risk getting more Covid cases back.

I really hope she will be judged fairly on the song and entry she brings.
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While I agree with you that she should be judged fairly on the song and the entry she brings (especially from the jury perspective), but we can't take away the human bias, so I am sure there will be bound to be viewers (especially casual ones) who share the same notion that participants who went down to Rotterdam "deserved more" (for the lack of a better word) to qualify to the grand final than Australia because of the efforts made despite the risk and pandemic situation.

At the bold part, I think at this point, we all know SF1 are full of grand final-worthy entries. So if it comes to a situation where there are entries that are on-par with Australia fighting for the grand final spot, personally, I would prefer those entries who are there in Rotterdam to push through to the grand final.

Plus, I would imagine it being worse for Montaigne, having to qualify to grand final and still unable to be there. It will be like triple whammy in my opinion.
 
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Iker said:
I didn't watch Greece, but what's up with fashion here overall? I hate most. I am out of touch with trends and I hate buying clothes (save for hats xD). Is it what is trendy now?

I only really like what Vincent Bueno is wearing. But sure ... these are only rehearsals, many contestants may look very different at the actual contest.
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I disagree, there is nothing unfair here. EBU clearly stated the rules and everyone had the same "opportunity" (depending on how you see it) to opt-out and go with heir taped performances instead.

It would be rather unfair if some worse entries manage to qualify just because they are "in-house", especially now when Australia finally stepped out of their comfort zone and started sending more interesting stuff for the past years.

Australia is super strict with their Covid measurements, and thus have almost no cases, it's not Montaigne's fault or her team's, they are required to follow the law and as much as we love Eurovision, it's not something Australian authorities would give a free-pass to and risk getting more Covid cases back.

I really hope she will be judged fairly on the song and entry she brings.
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How exactly would sending them be so dangerous for Australia? It's a small number of people and they would be tested before boarding on plane and then on their arrival, and likely they would add additional quarantine if they feel the need. Don't be paranoid.

They could also leave them on one of these uninhabited islets around Australian coast, lol. Or have them wear bottles or hazmats upon arrival and then escort them to their hotwl rooms.
 
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Except it is not Australia's delegation fault as far as I know but it is their government's fault. They wanted to show they do not give a shit about Eurovision. No good will on their part (oh irony) and maybe even flat-out malice, who knows?
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To be honest, I don't know the intricacies of what happened with the Australia's situation. Yes, Australia is strict with their travel restrictions. There are also conversations that the broadcaster is unable to fund the entire delegation's quarantine stay if they are to go down to Rotterdam and back to Australia, which could mean there is a lack of sponsor. I believe there is a combination of things that resulted Australia not being able to go down to Rotterdam.
 
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crashworld said:
While I agree with you that she should be judged fairly on the song and the entry she brings (especially from the jury perspective), but we can't take away the human bias, so I am sure there will be bound to be viewers (especially casual ones) who share the same notion that participants who went down to Rotterdam "deserved more" (for the lack of a better word) to qualify to the grand final than Australia because of the efforts made despite the risk and pandemic situation.

At the bold part, I think at this point, we all know SF1 are full of grand final-worthy entries. So if it comes to a situation where there are entries that are on-par with Australia fighting for the grand final spot, personally, I would prefer those entries who are there in Rotterdam to push through to the grand final.

Plus, I would imagine it being worse for Montaigne, having to qualify to grand final and still unable to be there. It will be like triple whammy in my opinion.
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With a pandemic that killed so many people and is still ongoing I find it puzzling that it should be rewarded and considered "making an effort" to turn up than to follow the laws of your country to help deal with this pandemic.

But I do understand your point, and yes SF1 is tough and if Australia fail to qualify based on fair play then sure, but if some worse entries will manage just because they were performed "in-door" then it's really unfair imho.

I think for her it would be even worse to feel unfairly judged tbh, as much as she probably wants to be there, I still think she wants to be judged fairly and would be happy to qualify.
 
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Iker said:
How exactly would sending them be so dangerous for Australia? It's a small number of people and they would be tested before boarding on plane and then on their arrival, and likely they would add additional quarantine if they feel the need. Don't be paranoid.

They could also leave them on one of these uninhabited islets around Australian coast, lol. Or have them wear bottles or hazmats upon arrival and then escort them to their hotwl rooms.
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As I'm not working for the Australian authorities I don't have the full insight :lol: , but from my understanding it's practically impossible to get in or out from the country if not for some very special exceptions, and I'm afraid a music contest in Europe that doesn't have a major public in Australia isn't considered important enough to make exceptions regarding the pandemic strategy.

Ther is a reason as to why Australia is one of the most successful countries on the planet when it comes to dealing with this.
 
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Since the surprise in 2016 I am careful about writing that Poland won´t qualify but this year it seems quite certain, his vocals seemed to be very weak combined with an average song :-(
 
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I'm so pissed they didn't let Montaigne out of country! They just ruined her experience. As we have seen it's very safely organized. No positive tests so far. Flying couple of people to Rotterdam wouldn't be a threat. But her experience is lost and irrecoverable.
 
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