Italy ITALY 2025 - Lucio Corsi - Volevo essere un duro

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[RainyWoods]

So that screenshot above is for the final night? Giorgia won both the jury votes, 6th with the public.. and those scores are combined with the other nights as well... which she either won or was just below winning in one case. I simply do not understand the numbers I'm looking at. How does 1st + 1st + 6th lose to 6th + 6th + 7th? You're going to have to help me out here as it just looks like a highway robbery.

 

[RainyWoods]

Olly's song is quite good and he's a strong performer. He does put his heart into it. I actually haven't heard the studio version of it yet but naturally it sounds very nice with the orchestra backing him. Lovely instrumentation. I really dislike the autotune though. It's not Irama levels of absolutely obnoxious, and Olly actually has a song here to fall back on, but I'd rather not be listening to a dalek singing a ballad. I can't really knock the song at all otherwise, other than that it doesn't feel particularly special? It is enjoyable. I just feel like if he wasn't so hot and lust-worthy we'd probably be sitting here with a different winner right now, as there were certainly better songs on offer.

I'll give this a nice points as I don't want to look bitter (I am deeply bitter.)

 

[Storm]

So that screenshot above is for the final night? Giorgia won both the jury votes, 6th with the public.. and those scores are combined with the other nights as well... which she either won or was just below winning in one case. I simply do not understand the numbers I'm looking at. How does 1st + 1st + 6th lose to 6th + 6th + 7th? You're going to have to help me out here as it just looks like a highway robbery.

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in San Remo voting rules lmao. But as far as I know, the televote is always the one panel with the potential for the biggest margins. As far as I know, the radio and press rankings are percentage-wise not that far apart since these people rate the songs from 1 to 10 and if Giorgia wins for example by getting 9s across the board and Cristicchi is behind by getting all 8s, he's like 2% behind her in that ranking.

And then of course as you say they're piling everything up during the course of the week. In this case, it seems Night 3 was Giorgia's downfall because her televote score that day was vastly inferior to Cristicchi's. By a bigger margin (20% Cristicchi, 10% Giorgia) than her 'win' over him on Night 5 (8% Giorgia, 4% Cristicchi).

 

[Alexy]

In betting, Italy fell to 9th place, unfortunately, this song, if it had won, would have knocked Sweden down and brought ROMA 2026, is there any hope? what can we do as a population to represent Italy or why not San Marino, it would be an incredible result, I can imagine how this song would sound at the Tomorrowland 2025 festival, incredible what a song, I hope this was not rejected by RAI 1



!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who thinks this was entered at SanRemo 2025? According to journalistic sources, the piece was rejected by RAI1

 

[Fluke]

I can see why this hasn't officially been made the entry yet, it really is one of Italy's weakest choices, and i'm far from a fan of most of the previous ones. In my opinion, they would probably do better with something else.

The song really does nothing at all except tick certain jury points. It just made me wonder by the way, do the Italian jury have some special criteria for quality of lyrics, aside from songwriting and performance? That would explain why there is always so much text in Italy's entries, even in genres where you wouldn't expect it. This is one of the worst yet, it's just completely unmusical and disjointed babbling at times.

There is nothing to remember about the song otherwise. Also, he looks very similar to Oscar Zia...

 

[nudiecrudi]

I can see why this hasn't officially been made the entry yet, it really is one of Italy's weakest choices, and i'm far from a fan of most of the previous ones. In my opinion, they would probably do better with something else.

The song really does nothing at all except tick certain jury points. It just made me wonder by the way, do the Italian jury have some special criteria for quality of lyrics, aside from songwriting and performance? That would explain why there is always so much text in Italy's entries, even in genres where you wouldn't expect it. This is one of the worst yet, it's just completely unmusical and disjointed babbling at times.

There is nothing to remember about the song otherwise. Also, he looks very similar to Oscar Zia...

You can't see anything.
The reason why they haven't confirmed is that Olly has concerts booked in May so the management is trying to change dates maybe.
About the style/quality: since you have hardly liked other past Italian contestants is a clear sign that you don't get in vibe with the italian music, which is fine. So whatever Italy sends it is almost nothing for you.
Lyrics, composition: in the italian music culture both components of a song are important. In some genres the lyrics have a clear importance. If you consider the top 5 of this year's selection all the songs have somehow deep meaning.
-the thoughts of a father about the growth of its proper son, Brunori Sas
- the question of being depressed, Fedez
- a relationship between a man and its old ill mother, Simone
- living a normal life as a normal people without feeling the pressure of being a superman. Lucio Corsi
- Olly, 23 years old, has written this song about a love story the has finished but has left deep signs.
You know @Fluke all the lyrics of this festival have been analyzed by the Academy of the Italian Language. Just to say to you how important are the lyrics.
The same importance usually Sweden puts to the staging.
The eternal question Is more important the content or the form?
I hope I've cleared what wasn't clear to you.

 

[astatine86]

People still don't understand that Italy does not really care about Eurovision. Sanremo is the holy festival and it's perfect for artists to score a hit and a tour. Besides, most of the artists are quite established so it's not like they NEED Eurovision when the most important market is their home country. The music industry is huge in Italy and artists are paid super well when they are successful, even if it's a one-time hit right after Sanremo. Eurovision is more like an afterthought and that's perfectly fine.

 

[b4ld3r]

I think all of the top 3 are good options.

Lucio Corsi is the only real comparison we've had to Salvador Sobral since he won in 2017. Really unique character singing a very pleasant song (different genres, of course). If the Italians stage it as well as the Portuguese did it could place pretty well.
Could also see Brunori Sas do pretty well, his song is jury-friendly, he's charismatic and the chorus is nice.

I think Olly's song is the weakest of the three, but he knows how to perform well and the song is still okay-ish, which is more than enough in this year's sad field. Unlike the others maybe it could be overshadowed a bit by whatever France brings however.

 

[Rasmus0714]

Well, that was an intense week of music, as always. Now, let's see what It brings to Eurovision: Olly will definitely go to Eurovision, no doubt. As I said a 23 year old newcomer will never refuse the opportunity, never. Giorgia could have declined, Cristicchi and Brunori would have declined, maybe even Corsi could have declined, cause Eurovision seems too distant from his music. So It was Olly or Fedez for me, from the beginning... One of them would have represented us, Olly won and so he will represent us. And I'm happy, tbh. The song Is good, this guy sings it well and delivers the message well. So, yeah. It isn't the best song ever from Italy in Eurovision, but it's far from being the worst song Italy brought to Eurovision. Will not win, can do good things in the jury vote, don't know about the televoters though, even if they usually seems to love Italian ballads. Can be a top 10 finisher? Yes, definitely. This year's lineup is not so great in Eurovision, tbh, at least atm. So It can reach top 10. And I'm good with it. Can It flop? Yes, It can obviously. But I see the first option as the more realistic. Where did this end in Eurovision? 7th to 12th imo. That is the most realistic outcome.

Isn't Brunori said he would go?

 

[Rasmus0714]

It was more ore less the same.

With Amadeus' voting system, Lucio will win instead of Olly

 

[Rasmus0714]

I thought they had to decide before the final and also sign a statement of accepting or not to go to Eurovision. They changed the rules again?

He has 8 concerts from May 5-17

 

[jatojo]

People still don't understand that Italy does not really care about Eurovision.

Well, I would say that is only partially true, at best. There are more viewers of the Grand Final in Italy than there are in France even though France is a bigger country.

 

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[Rasmus0714]

As I said, Sanremo doesn't have a problem with female singers. The problem is televote. 75% of the voters are women and the majority of them are very young women. They just love their idols. They are ready to give them even the last cent of their pocket to make them win. Last year Angelina won because her main rival was Geolier, mainly followed by male teens, and because cover nights counted for the real competition (this year Giorgia would have been a locked in top 5 finisher with last year's rules). And in the televote she lost by a landslide aswell. If she was against Olly, she would have lost 100%. That's the reality you don't seem to understand. But we live in Italy and know very well that reality.

People on reddit didn't really think so even though all female singers together only got 16% of night 5 televote.
Only 10 women make it to top 5 (24%) or 16% if counting solo women singers in the last 10 years. Acts with women range from 20% to 42%, this year is 41%, 2024 is 27%, 2023 is 36%, 2022 is 32%

 

[nudiecrudi]

People on reddit didn't really think so even though all female singers together only got 16% of night 5 televote.
Only 10 women make it to top 5 (24%) or 16% if counting solo women singers in the last 10 years. Acts with women range from 20% to 42%, this year is 41%, 2024 is 27%, 2023 is 36%, 2022 is 32%

We don't have to focus only to what happened in Sanremo. This question reflects the entire italian music reality where male singers have most streamings and occupy continuosly the top 10 rankings.

 

[aef]

I‘m surprised that Olly is getting so much hate. Why exactly? I like his song and performance a lot, I hope he’ll go to Eurovision. Yes another male ballad from but I think it’s a more fresh one. I like it way more than those Marco Mengoni cliché songs… and I’m also enjoying his voice a lot.

I’d give 10 points if he will be confirmed.

 

[Paco Roca]

In my opinion, B4ld3r is right. I was surprised by the comment. Lucio Corsi could be a surprise at Eurovision. He is an old school singer-songwriter who could be associated with Sobral with his peculiar way of behaving. He seems like one of those "free musical souls", outside the concept of mainstream.

For me he is the moral winner of the festival, the real surprise. I often find myself humming some points like "Vivere la vita è un gioco da ragazzi". Of all the songs of Sanremo let's face it, it is the most memorable.

In my opinion putting Giorgia in sixth position was like putting Mahmood in seventh last year. He was taken away from Olly as well as Angelina, the only one who could have taken away his scepter in the televoting.

I don't know... I don't dislike Olly but I'm not convinced either... I wish him the best and maybe he'll even manage to get into the Top 10. I imagine that Italy will be supported by San Marino, Malta, Albania, Spain (fresh alliance - but not with a 12) and Switzerland (if I heard correctly Michelle Hunziker will be in Basel?).

Regarding women... yes a man won once again but... the man has a powerful female manager Many of these people don't consider him. I don't think the blame lies with the patriarchy rooted in the population (even in their women who vote for men). Italians vote for the music they like and we can see it from the success of songs with important lyrics and some that wink at the old style: Brunori Sas, Cristicchi, Corsi, Fedez and Olly. And the man in Italy, perhaps more of a singer than the woman because he is used to singing to court his prey and more convincing and credible

I end my opinion, mixed with a bit of irony, by stating that yes, Italy is not interested in the ESC. Or rather, it respects it and has learned to appreciate it but it will always be second in Sanremo. Perhaps in Italy it is still rooted and it will be difficult to get rid of the thought that sees the ESC as a competition where mostly there is no serious music. And maybe, as for all of us other Big 5, a place where mostly small European musical realities have more motivation to expand their market.

 

[Rasmus0714]

We don't have to focus only to what happened in Sanremo. This question reflects the entire italian music reality where male singers have most streamings and occupy continuosly the top 10 rankings.

I kinda get it now after reading on reddit saying about old people songs (slow ballad) are well received in Italy, which are dominated by male singers, that's probably why all the songs I consider dated and tacky doing so well in this edition.

 

[BorisBubbles]

You know @Fluke all the lyrics of this festival have been analyzed by the Academy of the Italian Language. Just to say to you how important are the lyrics.

This is part of the reason why San Remo is a very bad selection method for Eurovision though. Not everyone speaks Italian, but the language of music itself (instrumentation) is universal. A ballad with minimal instrumentation that is basically a barrage of emotional punches lyrically, like Simone's, is not suitable to go to Eurovision, but would be a viable winner in a festival that celebrates the art of music.

Eurovision however, requires a level of spectacle. Lyrics matter less there because most of Europe cannot understand them anyway.

I really feel like RAI should reconsider how they select entries. They would do better by hand-picking the entries from the San Remo line-up themselves, instead of locking themselves into whatever makes the superfinal in San Remo.

 

[sucof]

and enough with this story that men win, in the end these people are voted 80% by interconnected girls with sky-high hormones! Just look at the fans of the most popular singers among young people outside the hotels in Sanremo, thousands of girls. It's not the fault of Rai of spectre and Giorgia Meloni if girls vote for men!