Italy ITALY 2025 - Lucio Corsi - Volevo essere un duro

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Alsou4ever]

The worst Sanremo winner in years has a better song than the rest of Esc countries this year. That is the only thing I can say.

I wonder what happens with Italy and female singers. Noemi and Rose Villain had amazing songs

 

[sucof]

I ask the more experienced, perhaps the voting system used by Amadeus was better?

 

[nudiecrudi]

I ask the more experienced, perhaps the voting system used by Amadeus was better?

It was more ore less the same.

 

[Sammy]

For myself, this song unfortunately doesn't reach me. Sometimes I still mourn about Diodato's "Fai rumore" - that was one of the songs where I literally cried when I saw him performing this. Or Maneskin of course. Compared to this Olly's song sounds quite beige. for now.

That‘s funny because my first thought when I heard Ollys song was „that reminds me so much of Diodato“. Interesting how perception can vary so much.

 

[Judas]

This could be the weakest Italian entry in a long time if Olly decides to go with Balorda nostalgia to Eurovision.

 

[nudiecrudi]

Try to think beyond the ESC bubble.
For the wide esc public the female Italian contestants dont have a great appeal.
Angelina Mango and Nina Zilli, so much acclaimed by the ESC fans, got 7th and 17th with the televote. Angelina was the only Italian contestants that didn't get a 12, and she was massively supposed by esc community.
At the end the best female italian result is 7th and the worst male italian result is 7th. That's says a lot about the perception of the wide European audience.

 

[Preuss]

Angelina would’ve been 6th though if it wasn’t for the insane case regarding Israel last year

Think Olly’s gonna do quite well though, like top 6 at least if he decides to go

 

[Alexy]

If this song had been at SanRemo 2025, Italy would have won everything, even Eurovision Song Contest 2025, it would be very nice if this song was recorded in San Marino, it would bring an exceptional result

 

[mauve]

That‘s funny because my first thought when I heard Ollys song was „that reminds me so much of Diodato“. Interesting how perception can vary so much.

To me these two songs are so different! But you are right, perception can be sometimes so different! Olly kind of doesn't reach me emotionally, but the song is still decent!

 

[Mainshow]

Btw: to whom do refer to, when you say „we“ in your post?

I was referring to "us" - the Eurovision fandom/viewers/votes.
I know it's a huge group but Carola hadn't been cancelled and Aram MP3 got a very good results despite having made questionable comments.

 

[Alsou4ever]

I feel Lucio Corsi could easily win ESC this year, I love those old-music vibes and the only competition will be Israel.

Olly reminds me of marco mengoni in terms of clothing, song, etc except for the voice.

 

[sucof]

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Well, that was an intense week of music, as always. Now, let's see what It brings to Eurovision: Olly will definitely go to Eurovision, no doubt. As I said a 23 year old newcomer will never refuse the opportunity, never. Giorgia could have declined, Cristicchi and Brunori would have declined, maybe even Corsi could have declined, cause Eurovision seems too distant from his music. So It was Olly or Fedez for me, from the beginning... One of them would have represented us, Olly won and so he will represent us. And I'm happy, tbh. The song Is good, this guy sings it well and delivers the message well. So, yeah. It isn't the best song ever from Italy in Eurovision, but it's far from being the worst song Italy brought to Eurovision. Will not win, can do good things in the jury vote, don't know about the televoters though, even if they usually seems to love Italian ballads. Can be a top 10 finisher? Yes, definitely. This year's lineup is not so great in Eurovision, tbh, at least atm. So It can reach top 10. And I'm good with it. Can It flop? Yes, It can obviously. But I see the first option as the more realistic. Where did this end in Eurovision? 7th to 12th imo. That is the most realistic outcome.

 

[SirPeterGriffin]

Lucio would've been an inspiring win. Instead, we have an aggressively tedious ballad (let's not even compare it with the sentimentality pull of Fai Rumore) that just plays it too safe to leave a mark. I do think it'll do well given how baity it sounds for that old fashioned public (being a hot charismatic guy will do the trick). But it's not grabbing me.

 

[JSSArcos]

I would like to wait for confirmation, for now a solid (10)

 

[Mrm]

Try to think beyond the ESC bubble.
For the wide esc public the female Italian contestants dont have a great appeal.
Angelina Mango and Nina Zilli, so much acclaimed by the ESC fans, got 7th and 17th with the televote. Angelina was the only Italian contestants that didn't get a 12, and she was massively supposed by esc community.
At the end the best female italian result is 7th and the worst male italian result is 7th. That's says a lot about the perception of the wide European audience.

But I want Italy to try with female ballad like Giorgia had!
I'm sure she would score the same as Marco in 2023 with both sets of points, it is simple, but pure quality that stands out in the eurovison line up, for being that!

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

As I said, Sanremo doesn't have a problem with female singers. The problem is televote. 75% of the voters are women and the majority of them are very young women. They just love their idols. They are ready to give them even the last cent of their pocket to make them win. Last year Angelina won because her main rival was Geolier, mainly followed by male teens, and because cover nights counted for the real competition (this year Giorgia would have been a locked in top 5 finisher with last year's rules). And in the televote she lost by a landslide aswell. If she was against Olly, she would have lost 100%. That's the reality you don't seem to understand. But we live in Italy and know very well that reality.

 

[Paco Roca]

Good morning everyone, are you ready for your teacher Paco Roca's music lesson? Good. Let's get started. Hey you, take that cell phone off the desk and stop eating that snack! We need some order in the classroom...

I'll leave some scattered considerations after Olly's victory:

* Olly generally follows the same emotional mood as Diodato. At least for the average listener, that's how it is.
* Songs in Italian will always have appeal at the ESC.
* The champions of Sanremo have always done well at the ESC. The ones who failed were Emma and Michielin who were not champions.
* Italian melodies are always among the most articulate at the ESC.
* Olly is a sexy, charismatic boy, with a warm voice and a heartbreaking singing style. He will be able to get his points from both the jury and the public.
* I listened to Olly both without knowing the meaning of the words and after reading the translated text. As a European I say that the song has its charm, it is modern, international and the guitar line is terribly sweet.
* Yesterday I completely hit the Top 10 of the Sanremo festival. I continue to say that Giorgia would have been the safest choice and that Olly could feel the pressure of the Eurovision Song Contest. Italy, like all the Big 5, cannot easily get lost in experiments. Their lack of block votes, the hatred they suffer for being Big 5 and the never very friendly juries, makes it clear that to even minimally enter the Top 10 they must bring a song 3 times stronger than the others or so solid and basic that they cannot remain without votes. But Olly could reach the Top 10. I feel it. I will explain why in the next fragments.
* Olly will not win the ESC because that is what Rai wants. The Jubilee, the Winter Olympics and the next Sanremo are expenses. Rai aims to valorize its talent (a talent mostly from the Donà stable) and a Top 10.
* Let's go back to Olly, if Slimane did well with that insipid candy packaged as "Mon Amour", Olly can take Ursula von der Leyen's place.
* Marcella Bella ended up last. Italy presents itself as the least feminist and least left-wing European country. The people have not taken root, as unfortunately Spain did with the Sanchez dictatorship, in the "INGSOC" model slogans of the film "1984". Opening up to female liberalism is fine, but a witch hunt and disintegration of the male figure carried out by privileged women who feed on the misfortunes of lower-class women has always been a source of hilarity for me. Thanks to these woke, green cultures etc. etc. Europe is at the center of opposing blocks; weak and defenseless.
* Following the reasoning of the previous point, our Melody would have finished last at Sanremo or would have followed the same path as Elettra Lamborghini and her twerking.
* I listened to the songs currently competing at the ESC and while respecting the various cultures and musical tastes of everyone... I sometimes wonder what kind of cotton buds many use. Please... it's absolutely nothing. Italy and Spain have brought stronger musical productions musically.
* When a song enters the ESC but the others have yet to be revealed, one tends to think that the last nominations will be masterpieces. That's not the case.
* At the moment the Bubble is excited about the Finnish woman's striptease... in my opinion these are the songs that make the ESC not very credible. They have the right to be there but not to proliferate like mold spores on the walls of a cellar.
* This year's edition of Sanremo could have brought several solid competitors to the ESC: Cristicchi (following the emotional trail of Sobral), Giorgia (following the safe French choice with Slimane), Fedez (who could have surprised) and maybe even Noemi. Brunori Sas and Corsi were not suitable for the ESC while Coma_Cose are that kind of guilty pleasure that scrapes the bottom (if they are not brought to the competition by nations like Georgia and from there a neurasthenic fever begins in the public that will scream masterpiece).
* On a site whose name I will not mention, Olly before the victory was among the favorites of the people after The Kolors. After the victory he became public enemy number 1.
* Every year many fans underestimate Italy and the influence it has on the public. We can't do anything about it. They can also bring a song that talks about a dancing monkey and the world public would look at them with admiration. I agree with BorisBubbles who says they reached the Top 10 with worse songs than Olly's. And enough to say that ballads are hated... in reality the European and world public loves them and they always get voted. It's annoying but Italy knows how to build power ballads like Sweden and is skilled at building winning plasticpop.

The lesson is over. Now I can't wait to get excited and absorb some poison from the German selection

 

[Sammy]

I was referring to "us" - the Eurovision fandom/viewers/votes.
I know it's a huge group but Carola hadn't been cancelled and Aram MP3 got a very good results despite having made questionable comments.

well, then I‘m obviously not a part of that „we“

Don’t forget Aram was leading the odds before he made those comments so…

Anyway that‘s speculation and also we‘re getting OT

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Good morning everyone, are you ready for your teacher Paco Roca's music lesson? Good. Let's get started. Hey you, take that cell phone off the desk and stop eating that snack! We need some order in the classroom...

I'll leave some scattered considerations after Olly's victory:

* Olly generally follows the same emotional mood as Diodato. At least for the average listener, that's how it is.
* Songs in Italian will always have appeal at the ESC.
* The champions of Sanremo have always done well at the ESC. The ones who failed were Emma and Michielin who were not champions.
* Italian melodies are always among the most articulate at the ESC.
* Olly is a sexy, charismatic boy, with a warm voice and a heartbreaking singing style. He will be able to get his points from both the jury and the public.
* I listened to Olly both without knowing the meaning of the words and after reading the translated text. As a European I say that the song has its charm, it is modern, international and the guitar line is terribly sweet.
* Yesterday I completely hit the Top 10 of the Sanremo festival. I continue to say that Giorgia would have been the safest choice and that Olly could feel the pressure of the Eurovision Song Contest. Italy, like all the Big 5, cannot easily get lost in experiments. Their lack of block votes, the hatred they suffer for being Big 5 and the never very friendly juries, makes it clear that to even minimally enter the Top 10 they must bring a song 3 times stronger than the others or so solid and basic that they cannot remain without votes. But Olly could reach the Top 10. I feel it. I will explain why in the next fragments.
* Olly will not win the ESC because that is what Rai wants. The Jubilee, the Winter Olympics and the next Sanremo are expenses. Rai aims to valorize its talent (a talent mostly from the Donà stable) and a Top 10.
* Let's go back to Olly, if Slimane did well with that insipid candy packaged as "Mon Amour", Olly can take Ursula von der Leyen's place.
* Marcella Bella ended up last. Italy presents itself as the least feminist and least left-wing European country. The people have not taken root, as unfortunately Spain did with the Sanchez dictatorship, in the "INGSOC" model slogans of the film "1984". Opening up to female liberalism is fine, but a witch hunt and disintegration of the male figure carried out by privileged women who feed on the misfortunes of lower-class women has always been a source of hilarity for me. Thanks to these woke, green cultures etc. etc. Europe is at the center of opposing blocks; weak and defenseless.
* Following the reasoning of the previous point, our Melody would have finished last at Sanremo or would have followed the same path as Elettra Lamborghini and her twerking.
* I listened to the songs currently competing at the ESC and while respecting the various cultures and musical tastes of everyone... I sometimes wonder what kind of cotton buds many use. Please... it's absolutely nothing. Italy and Spain have brought stronger musical productions musically.
* When a song enters the ESC but the others have yet to be revealed, one tends to think that the last nominations will be masterpieces. That's not the case.
* At the moment the Bubble is excited about the Finnish woman's striptease... in my opinion these are the songs that make the ESC not very credible. They have the right to be there but not to proliferate like mold spores on the walls of a cellar.
* This year's edition of Sanremo could have brought several solid competitors to the ESC: Cristicchi (following the emotional trail of Sobral), Giorgia (following the safe French choice with Slimane), Fedez (who could have surprised) and maybe even Noemi. Brunori Sas and Corsi were not suitable for the ESC while Coma_Cose are that kind of guilty pleasure that scrapes the bottom (if they are not brought to the competition by nations like Georgia and from there a neurasthenic fever begins in the public that will scream masterpiece).
* On a site whose name I will not mention, Olly before the victory was among the favorites of the people after The Kolors. After the victory he became public enemy number 1.
* Every year many fans underestimate Italy and the influence it has on the public. We can't do anything about it. They can also bring a song that talks about a dancing monkey and the world public would look at them with admiration. I agree with BorisBubbles who says they reached the Top 10 with worse songs than Olly's. And enough to say that ballads are hated... in reality the European and world public loves them and they always get voted. It's annoying but Italy knows how to build power ballads like Sweden and is skilled at building winning plasticpop.

The lesson is over. Now I can't wait to get excited and absorb some poison from the German selection

I agree with every single word. And I will add one thing: the majority of Italians really do not care about our final placement in Eurovision. If we came dead last with a song, who cares? If I liked the song before, I'll like It even after. I mean, that's how it works for everyone. There's a competition, yes, but musical taste is personal and varies: what I like maybe isn't liked the same way, let's say, by the average viewers in the UK or in Armenia. That said, if we are on a current open streak of top tens in Eurovision and this fact bothers someone, well, we are not to blame. Simply, Eurovision viewers like our entries, and the same can be said for example for other successful countries in Eurovision, like Sweden or Ukraine. And this, even if annoying to some, is not Italy, Sweden or Ukraine's fault.