Italy ITALY 2025 - Lucio Corsi - Volevo essere un duro

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[Paco Roca]

This is part of the reason why San Remo is a very bad selection method for Eurovision though. Not everyone speaks Italian, but the language of music itself (instrumentation) is universal. A ballad with minimal instrumentation that is basically a barrage of emotional punches lyrically, like Simone's, is not suitable to go to Eurovision, but would be a viable winner in a festival that celebrates the art of music.

Eurovision however, requires a level of spectacle. Lyrics matter less there because most of Europe cannot understand them anyway.

I really feel like RAI should reconsider how they select entries. They would do better by hand-picking the entries from the San Remo line-up themselves, instead of locking themselves into whatever makes the superfinal in San Remo.

I don't understand why they should change their way of choosing. It always brings them Top 10s. There are nations that would sell their souls to the devil to achieve their results.

Also, I don't understand what is meant by "Eurovision music". Many nations have collapsed under this false idea. The tastes of Europeans and the big public cannot be predicted. If you want to conquer the Bubble you are sure that a bop is enough.

Music is not entertainment anyway. This is what has made today's music increasingly insipid and forgettable. Music must express an inner feeling, whether it be love or sadness or the desire to dance, and the show must complete and amplify the emotions.

I have the impression that Olly could be what Cornelia Jakobs was for Sweden. An emotional ballad that is not amazing but competitive. To help Olly there will be the Italian language that has always made many fans drool.

 

[nudiecrudi]

This is part of the reason why San Remo is a very bad selection method for Eurovision though. Not everyone speaks Italian, but the language of music itself (instrumentation) is universal. A ballad with minimal instrumentation that is basically a barrage of emotional punches lyrically, like Simone's, is not suitable to go to Eurovision, but would be a viable winner in a festival that celebrates the art of music.

Eurovision however, requires a level of spectacle. Lyrics matter less there because most of Europe cannot understand them anyway.

I really feel like RAI should reconsider how they select entries. They would do better by hand-picking the entries from the San Remo line-up themselves, instead of locking themselves into whatever makes the superfinal in San Remo.

The story of Italy in ESC says the contrary of what you wrote Just to remind you what happened with Non mi avete fatto niente by Meta Moro. The entire Europe understood what they were singing about and voted for them.
The secret of Italy for being successful in ESC is because Italy thinks differently from the rest of Europe.
And it functions. So why changing a winning formula. Don't you think

 

[Mrm]

Lucio Corsi and Topo Gigio go to Basel!

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

People on reddit didn't really think so even though all female singers together only got 16% of night 5 televote.
Only 10 women make it to top 5 (24%) or 16% if counting solo women singers in the last 10 years. Acts with women range from 20% to 42%, this year is 41%, 2024 is 27%, 2023 is 36%, 2022 is 32%

Well people on reddit can think what they want, but who are those people on reddit? What do they know about Sanremo? Do they know in Sanremo there were more "all women" podiums than "all men podiums"? Do they know a woman came first, second and third in the same edition? Do they know how many established female singers started their career there? No, of course, they don't. They just like to talk...

 

[SAYAY]

(Removed as I dont want to possibly contribute to spreading rumors/false info)

 

[nudiecrudi]

I read that there is apparently some controversy around Olly. Is that true or social media lies?

Edit: My "source" : https://www.instagram.com/p/DGIiVtcNTAM/

None here in Italy talks about it.
Other artists in Sanremo have been accused for the lyrics in their songs

 

[Rasmus0714]

and enough with this story that men win, in the end these people are voted 80% by interconnected girls with sky-high hormones! Just look at the fans of the most popular singers among young people outside the hotels in Sanremo, thousands of girls. It's not the fault of Rai of spectre and Giorgia Meloni if girls vote for men!

https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1ir5zvc/comment/md60fk9/

"Only a fool will deny they there's a bias against women. Looking at the last few years at least, there is no way one can argue that women deserved such a small amount of top 5/top 10 results when you listen to the quality of the songs.

The most thrown around argument is that teen fan bases of mostly girls vote hard for younger male famous artists, and that if adults/middle aged people had a bigger say, women would do better. And while that definitely has a strong effect, it doesn't tell the full story. I mean, so many of the top 5/top 10 this year were middle aged man with more traditional simple ballads, don't think those are the targets of young rabid female teens.

Also the other argument rising in this thread that the ratio of female/male artists is not 50-50. I'm sorry but the difference in ratio is also not 90-10 like the ratio of female soloists reaching the superfinal in the past 5 years. Only THREE female soloists made the superfinal out of 21 acts. Three. That is crazy. If anything, this argument just speaks of even bigger misogyny on the industry as a whole."

 

[Rasmus0714]

Well people on reddit can think what they want, but who are those people on reddit? What do they know about Sanremo? Do they know in Sanremo there were more "all women" podiums than "all men podiums"? Do they know a woman came first, second and third in the same edition? Do they know how many established female singers started their career there? No, of course, they don't. They just like to talk...

https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1ir5zvc/comment/md6zvfj/

"The problem isn't related to the last decade, it started 20+ years ago.

Just a couple of days ago I made a quick count watching one of those recaps "all the winners of Sanremo" and from that, you can clearly see that up until 2000 the situation was pretty much even and then all went downhill.

I'm going by memory here, but in 2000 Avion travel (all men band) won, then after that, the winning women were Elisa in 2001, Alexia in 2003, Emma in 2012, Arisa in 2014 and Angelina Mango in 2024.

In 2002 Matia Bazar won (a duo/group where the singer is a woman), in 2008-ish a duo, woman+man, Gio di tonno and Lola Ponce won and in 2021 Maneskin are saved by Victoria's presence.

The. rest. is. a. sausage. party."
"Interestingly, televote was introduced in 2004

I’m not saying that the televote is the only reason why women are struggling, but it’s way more biased towards men than the professional juries."

 

[AlekS]

None here in Italy talks about it.
Other artists in Sanremo have been accused for the lyrics in their songs

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1ir5zvc/comment/md6zvfj/

"The problem isn't related to the last decade, it started 20+ years ago.

Just a couple of days ago I made a quick count watching one of those recaps "all the winners of Sanremo" and from that, you can clearly see that up until 2000 the situation was pretty much even and then all went downhill.

I'm going by memory here, but in 2000 Avion travel (all men band) won, then after that, the winning women were Elisa in 2001, Alexia in 2003, Emma in 2012, Arisa in 2014 and Angelina Mango in 2024.

In 2002 Matia Bazar won (a duo/group where the singer is a woman), in 2008-ish a duo, woman+man, Gio di tonno and Lola Ponce won and in 2021 Maneskin are saved by Victoria's presence.

The. rest. is. a. sausage. party."
"Interestingly, televote was introduced in 2004

I’m not saying that the televote is the only reason why women are struggling, but it’s way more biased towards men than the professional juries."

Strange, nobody said anything about this just last year when Angelina won and Annalisa came third, or in 2012 when the podiums was Emma, Arisa, Noemi, or in 2001 when Elisa prevaled in an epic musical battle versus Giorgia... With a fantastic Silvia Mezzanotte leading Maria Bazar to third, and in 2002 to victory. Or in 2003 when Alexia dominated everyone else. Or even in 2014 when Arisa was a clear winner since day 1. So, when women win they deserve, when men win it's mysoginy, or a sausage party. Interesting point of view.

PS I never heard ANY male Italian artist complain when any female won Sanremo.

PPS Women and men are all involved in the voting: the press, the televote and the orchestra are all made by men and women. They all can vote. This, my friend, is called democracy, not mysoginy.

PPPS In Spain, Greece, Cyprus women are ALWAYS selected for Eurovision. Why don't I see the same topic in those nation threads? Because of the "slay kween" culture? No, because, it's the same thing or maybe even worse. Cyprus presented three dancing girls with three almost identical songs in three consecutive years and you are talking about Italy... Just saying.

By the way, if you scroll down the comments on FB, in the posts signaling this presumed "male privilege" in Sanremo, the first ones defending their choices and final rankings are mainly women voters. If they like a male act better and vote for it, who are you to say they are wrong? You know what will really be mysogynistic? Thinking women should vote only for women and not for whoever they want, just to preserve their gender in the top 3. It would be more misogynistic because it would mean that their vote would no longer be free Musical tastes are subjective. If male singers are voted that much, It means they are more liked. And there is nothing you can do to change this...
Maybe female singers should start considering why their songs are not that popular with the audiences, instead. And when they do this, then maybe we can see females winning on a more regular basis...

Full stop.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

This is part of the reason why San Remo is a very bad selection method for Eurovision though. Not everyone speaks Italian, but the language of music itself (instrumentation) is universal. A ballad with minimal instrumentation that is basically a barrage of emotional punches lyrically, like Simone's, is not suitable to go to Eurovision, but would be a viable winner in a festival that celebrates the art of music.

Eurovision however, requires a level of spectacle. Lyrics matter less there because most of Europe cannot understand them anyway.

I really feel like RAI should reconsider how they select entries. They would do better by hand-picking the entries from the San Remo line-up themselves, instead of locking themselves into whatever makes the superfinal in San Remo.

I think they shouldn't. Sanremo winners are usually successful in Eurovision too. So why the heck should RAI change his method? Give me just one valid reason, because I can't find one. I personally don't want Italy to be represented by some plastic songs just to fit Eurovision fandom better. I just want to be represented by something which is liked by the majority of Italians and Sanremo is a good way to select something Italians like. Eurovision results don't matter a lot to me, what really matters is we are represented well by something we like. Then we can finish even dead last in Eurovision, but if it's with something the majority of us Italians like, I would not feel any shame.

 

[gigi_copp3]

Lucio Corsi stated that "it would be an honour for him to represent Italy at ESC 2025".

So it's either Olly or him

 

[Paco Roca]

I think Olly will represent Italy. They are just sorting out the concert issue. I listened to "Balorda Nostalgia" again and I can say that he is a mix between a grower and a dark horse.

 

[b4ld3r]

Lucio

 

[lavieenrose]

Little bit of solidarity between two singers who could've fought for the win at Eurovision 2025 if their nation's televoters weren't allergic to sending great songs that could win Eurovision

 

[Ana Raquel]

Hoping for Lucio because I at least remember how his song goes

 

[Anthony Tesla]

Whenever you're ready Italy, there's no rush.

 

[Mainshow]

Hopefully, Olly confirms it soon.
I would highly prefer his song to represent Italy than Lucio's entry (which I didn't like that much).

 

[SAYAY]

I honestly think I prefer Lucio song personally, but I of course hope Olly goes for those in here who like his song

 

[HarryUK]

I always find it overly dramatic when the San Remo artist has to “consider” whether to compete - you know what the prize is, prepare your calendar accordingly! Otherwise you’re not in it to win it, surely?

And yes I know San Remo is a prestigious event in Italy but the prize is the prize!