Italy ITALY 2024 - Angelina Mango - La noia

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[Ajeje Brazorf]

Her songs now tend to be commercial rather than highbrow and she does a lot of songs with other artists.Obvious it is to keep her career and profile going.However some of her earlier work is stunning,and once she walks on the Ariston stage she always delivers.As for vocals she is an incredible singer.Italian music has endless world class female vocalists and Annalisa is one of them,she has a very strong range.She really comes into her own in a quality setting.I think she will struggle to win a Sanremo though now and i think the fact she made the podium once is fantastic.
Everything about her screams class,

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She should have won with "Una finestra tra le stelle" in 2015, but everyone was rooting for Il Volo (with a way worse song). "Una finestra tra le stelle" is maybe the best italian ballad in the last 15 years, her voice was sublime there. The reason she didn't is she was pretty much an outsider: had a 4 years long career at the time and was struggling to find her mainstream success. But that song is a total masterpiece.

 

[elanyvx]

Hunty, I was pleased to read your well-articulated comment and I don't disagree in finding Annalisa a technically capable singer. However, worse than not being able to sing for me is being anonymous. She has always been a "singer in progress" both on an image and musical level. She is an industrial product without any soul that makes Loreen and the Swedish music of recent years seem "caliente".

If we asked some Italian to sing one of Annalisa's songs, which song would she sing? The latest commercial songs and that's it. The deepest songs from Annalisa's past have failed to stick in anyone's mind. As much as she is considered good at Sanremo, she failed miserably. Annalisa at the Eurovision Song Contest would bring Italy a worse result than Emma's. Current Italian female songwriting is not at the level of the male one and this is why it fails. Arisa has a beautiful voice but mostly her music is heartbreaking (and in fact she is moving, driven by her personal insecurities, towards a more aggressive and irreverent look and sound). The best and those with the most possibilities in Italy among the singers are Amoroso, Baby K, perhaps Giusy Ferreri (in tandem with someone else because alone it is a "big no") and Elodie (who is ironically the best). Female artists now are not at the level of those of the past. Maybe, and just maybe, if Alexia is dusted off in Italy we will see a nice surprise.

Please! Baby K with 100% autotune? Or Giusy Ferreri? She is very limited vocally live on stage, as well as in Sanremo she did worse than Annalisa if we want to look at the results. And precisely the entry for Italy will come from the Festival every year. Alexia is 56 years old and is now out of the recording market. She's been great in the past few years, that's true. But now she would be a fish out of water at Eurovision.

Taking part in Sanremo and representing Italy at Eurovision are two related but different things. Alessandra Amoroso has never taken part in Sanremo, we don't know what could happen if she were to be among the Bigs in 2024, there are no possible comparisons.

According to the Italian media at the moment the promising young women for Italian music are: Annalisa, Elodie, Madame.
If we were to ask around, which woman could win the Sanremo Festival in the future (after 2014 with Arisa), everyone answers with these three names listed above. Three artists who propose different music genres but who can probably fly high.

In the last two years, Elisa (2nd in 2022) and Giorgia (6th in 2023) who are two important artists in the Italian music scene, have failed to win. Laura Pausini is unlikely to take part in the Festival, Eurovision even less so because it is unpredictable in terms of the final ranking.

 

[nudiecrudi]

Sanremo can be unpredictable sometimes. Maneskin, Gabbani and Mahmoud with Soldi weren't meant to win.
So we don't know what is going to happen. Maybe a young and unknown female singer could surprise us.
I don't think Annalisa will partecipate next year. Elodie and Madame too.
The ones who probably could take part are Angelina Mango, Gaia Gozzi and Rose Villain. The first and the last have had hits this year and I'm sure they will try nest year using Sanremo. Gaia has had different possibilities, X Factor, Amici Sanremo but didn't explode as a pop star. She has all the numbers to be, for the moment is in stand-by. Maybe Sanremo 2024 could be another possibility for her?

 

[Paco Roca]

Please! Baby K with 100% autotune? Or Giusy Ferreri? She is very limited vocally live on stage, as well as in Sanremo she did worse than Annalisa if we want to look at the results. And precisely the entry for Italy will come from the Festival every year. Alexia is 56 years old and is now out of the recording market. She's been great in the past few years, that's true. But now she would be a fish out of water at Eurovision.

Taking part in Sanremo and representing Italy at Eurovision are two related but different things. Alessandra Amoroso has never taken part in Sanremo, we don't know what could happen if she were to be among the Bigs in 2024, there are no possible comparisons.

According to the Italian media at the moment the promising young women for Italian music are: Annalisa, Elodie, Madame.
If we were to ask around, which woman could win the Sanremo Festival in the future (after 2014 with Arisa), everyone answers with these three names listed above. Three artists who propose different music genres but who can probably fly high.

In the last two years, Elisa (2nd in 2022) and Giorgia (6th in 2023) who are two important artists in the Italian music scene, have failed to win. Laura Pausini is unlikely to take part in the Festival, Eurovision even less so because it is unpredictable in terms of the final ranking.

I'm not an expert on Italian music and let's not even say music in general. Precisely out of disinterest, I don't like talking about artists and quoting the titles of their songs as if they were fine bottles of French wine. My method is to listen to music and instinctively say what I think, trying to calibrate my thoughts with objective data.

Baby K, I think you noticed, I nominated her not for her vocal prowess and the depth of her lyrics but for her ability to create commercial sounds and her kween charisma (which only Elodie can match). At the Eurovision Song Contest, quality doesn't always win, but rather what makes you dance, what entertains, what pleases and makes everyone agree. The Moldovans who sang about the "little train" did not seem to me vocally equal to the trio Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo and Antonio Carreras, yet they were about to have bingo (only the intervention of the jury stemmed what would have been considered a "bad winner").

I have never liked Giusy Ferreri (even though I recognize her unique tone - partly pleasant and annoying). In a Caribbean or South American rhythm it could do well. Rhythms that have been becoming very popular in Italy lately (since they have understood that the Spanish-speaking market is richer than the English-speaking one which currently only holds the best stage).

Amoruso doesn't drive me crazy. In my opinion she seems like an Emma who clashed with Giusy Ferreri. I would also see her as a winner only with a bright sound.

Yes, I forgot about Madame. Perhaps she, together with Elodie, is the most eligible for the Sanremo scepter (even if I struggle to see her as the winner).

The woman most likely to win is only Elodie. That, unlike Annalisa, she has her own identity and the growth of her music is constant and not without patterns.

Having said that, I think that this, if she participates, will be Irama's year.

 

[lasse braun]

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very nice.

 

[mup]

While waiting for Sanremo 2024, I leave here a couple of graphs to show the festival's growth in recent years (source IlSole24OreLab), in case anyone is interested.

Number of platinums reached by Sanremo songs for each edition (2023 has reached 32 as of now):

Number of Sanremo songs in the Top10 each year, with winning song reaching no.1 in purple. If I read correctly, 2023 has confirmed the same amount of 2021 and 2022.

These years have been marking a new period of success for the Italian festival, with the past ones being the 50s/60s and the 80s/early 90s, as everything it went through ups and downs during its existence.

 

[mup]

As for the economic matter, Sanremo hasn't always been profitable. With the slump in songs/artists' quality and viewership in certain years, the Festival proved to be a burden for the public broadcaster. As an example, the 2009-2012 editions had costs for over €20M, with revenues of only about €10M, it was impossible for the festival to survive with those figures. A spending review was put in place, as well as new strategies to increase viewership - particularly among young people - and Sanremo became a viable business.

For recent years (in €):

Year Costs Revenues Net 2020 19M 37M 18M 2021 17.4M 38M 20.6M 2022 17.3M 42M 24.7M

(source: firstonline.info)

According to estimations the 2023 figures are similar to the 2022 ones, with an increase in revenues over €45M. The economic impact of the festival is even wider than those numbers. Let's hope they keep up with what they have been accomplishing so far economically.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

very nice.

This song is not bad, even if the music in the chorus reminds me a remixed version of "Ditto" by Erika (which is not a bad thing, by any means).

Btw, it's the first time I actually think we should have go internal next year, because I just listened to one of the best albums by an Italian artist in the last 20 years or so... I don't know what that girl has in mind, but she delivered a masterpiece and I don't know if she is totally aware of what she has done.

 

[nudiecrudi]

A big NO to an internal selection.
None of 2023 successful songs would have done better then Due Vite.

 

[mup]

Do you think PTN will compete in Sanremo in 2024? Or they're so successful at the moment (with many concerts already scheduled/sold out) that they don't have time/need for it? I liked their entry in 2020.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Do you think PTN will compete in Sanremo in 2024? Or they're so successful at the moment (with many concerts already scheduled/sold out) that they don't have time/need for it? I liked their entry in 2020.

They can: their audience has increased since 2020 when they were outsiders and I think they are considering a second try at Sanremo...

 

[elanyvx]

Do you think PTN will compete in Sanremo in 2024? Or they're so successful at the moment (with many concerts already scheduled/sold out) that they don't have time/need for it? I liked their entry in 2020.

PTN have a big tour between April and May 2024. Only in May they have the following concerts: 2-3-4-7-8-10-11 (the last date also corresponds to the Eurovision 2024 final). They could take part in the Festival but in case they win it, for Eurovision many concert dates would have to be moved.

 

[mup]

Thanks for your replies! I didn't know how many dates PTN had exactly, and they seem a lot, definitely. Based on their success and the fact that a radio jury is going to replace the demoscopic one, I would count in a likely win for them, in case they took part. Anyway all of these dates in the spring months also make me think they could do without competing.

I have also read that quite a few big names (Antonacci, Nannini and such) are considering to compete in Sanremo 2024, but I expect that these might be rumours and speculations as usual.

 

[Chiarina]

I don't know if PTN will be back in Sanremo in 2024 but I'm sure we will see them again in futur years. Riccardo, their frontman, is a big Eurovision fan and has said in the past that he wants to represent Italy at Esc with PTN

 

[hunty73]

She should have won with "Una finestra tra le stelle" in 2015, but everyone was rooting for Il Volo (with a way worse song). "Una finestra tra le stelle" is maybe the best italian ballad in the last 15 years, her voice was sublime there. The reason she didn't is she was pretty much an outsider: had a 4 years long career at the time and was struggling to find her mainstream success. But that song is a total masterpiece.

My favourite SR year of the modern era apart from the winners.

She was incredible that year,her delivery was sublime and she looked amazing,but it was a hugely strong year.Not only Il Volo,but the best jury performance and song i have ever seen at SR from Malika Ayane.Chiara also had a fantastic song and performance.
Its very difficult for someone like Nali to get the televote and jury onside.
When i saw it i thought 17 billion years since the universe started to produce now this perfection.Lets remember how stunning it was ,

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Nothing had a chance against Malika with the jury though,this is high art,Sugar Music at their very best,

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Chiara was also superb,

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[Ajeje Brazorf]

My favourite SR year of the modern era apart from the winners.

She was incredible that year,her delivery was sublime and she looked amazing,but it was a hugely strong year.Not only Il Volo,but the best jury performance and song i have ever seen at SR from Malika Ayane.Chiara also had a fantastic song and performance.
Its very difficult for someone like Nali to get the televote and jury onside.
When i saw it i thought 17 billion years since the universe started to produce now this perfection.Lets remember how stunning it was ,

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Nothing had a chance against Malika with the jury though,this is high art,Sugar Music at their very best,

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Chiara was also superb,

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I agree, Malika was phenomenal too... Maybe the best song of her entire discography as I previously said. I really like that song.

 

[hunty73]

I agree, Malika was phenomenal too... Maybe the best song of her entire discography as I previously said. I really like that song.

When i watched the first performance my jaw hit the floor,it was stunning.Obvious she would smash the jury vote.I agree with you on it being the best song/performance of her career.It was art really.Incredible year.

 

[gigi_copp3]

https://www.imusicfun.it/news/sanremo-2024-toto-nomi-in-tempo-reale-cast-in-continuo-aggiornamento/

Here is a link with a game of predictions with percents of who'll partecipate in Sanremo 2024

 

[Marcos C]

The final of Sanremo Giovani will take place on December 19. The artists who finish in the top three of the final will advance to the Sanremo Music Festival 2024.

🇮🇹 Italy: Sanremo Giovani Final To Broadcast On December 19 - Eurovoix

The final of Sanremo Giovani will be broadcast on December 19.

eurovoix.com

 

[elanyvx]

Marco Mengoni co-host the first night of Sanremo 2024