Italy ITALY 2024 - Angelina Mango - La noia

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[MAD20]

I take a seat here waiting for the upcoming man ballad that will end in top 10. Come on... Time for a change, isn't it?

 

[aef]

I take a seat here waiting for the upcoming man ballad that will end in top 10. Come on... Time for a change, isn't it

I mean sent totally different genres/ songs every year before 2020

 

[nudiecrudi]

I take a seat here waiting for the upcoming man ballad that will end in top 10. Come on... Time for a change, isn't it?

Why should we change?
Just to please to some forum members here? Other countries can make experiments if they want, and get 5 points from the public.
It's incredible how some fans prove envy towards Italy. Seem for them that 2019 and 2021 belonged to another century.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Why should we change?
Just to please to some forum members here? Other countries can make experiments if they want, and get 5 points from the public.
It's incredible how some fans prove envy towards Italy. Seem for them that 2019 and 2021 belonged to another century.

Exactly... And they were totally ok when Cyprus send three twin songs in a row to the contest but, oh yeah... Those weren't ballads, so it's fine.

PS: Italy NEVER sent three ballads in a road since it's return. Switzerland did so in the last three years (four if we consider 2020), qualifying every single year and people doesn't give a fuck, just saying.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I take a seat here waiting for the upcoming man ballad that will end in top 10. Come on... Time for a change, isn't it?

You literally gave a 4 in the poll to Zitti e Buoni came out of nowhere to win Sanremo in 2021 and you preferred Fedez and Francesca with the blandest song ever, if I remember right. What now? You changed your mind?

 

[crashworld]

Ultimo or Irama next year please.

Same. I would love Irama at ESC.

And why should Italy ditch Sanremo as a mean to select their entrant when they have been successful than most countries in terms of their ESC results.

Plus, it's beneficial to the Sanremo's artists that they have the ESC bubble following the festival, which is an added exposure internationally.

 

[Preuss]

Same. I would love Irama at ESC.

And why should Italy ditch Sanremo as a mean to select their entrant when they have been successful than most countries in terms of their ESC results.

Plus, it's beneficial to the Sanremo's artists that they have the ESC bubble following the festival, which is an added exposure internationally.

I'd take Irama over Ultimo as he was kind of a bad loser back in 2019 haha

Are there any indications that Italy won't use Sanremo to select their entrant for Eurovision beyond 2024 though?

 

[nudiecrudi]

I'd take Irama over Ultimo as he was kind of a bad loser back in 2019 haha

Are there any indications that Italy won't use Sanremo to select their entrant for Eurovision beyond 2024 though?

No indications.
I don't think Rai is going to change the method. It's a winning one.
The lowest place got by a Sanremo winning song is a 7th place so why changing a system that functions perfectly.

 

[simori95]

(Possibly) Unpopular opinion: I love Irama, but even if he went to Eurovision with his best Song yet, I think he might do underwhelmingly at Eurovision. There is something about the way he performs that I think works kinda well for Sanremo but wouldn’t really work on a Eurovision stage.

That said, I HOPE i am wrong and I would love him to go regardless, LGDTC is one of my all time favorite songs.

 

[lasse braun]

summer is coming.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

The only thing I hate about Sanremo is we won't ever see a Italodance or Italodisco number in Eurovision, genres in which we totally excelled in the past which I would love to see back to its glory days.

 

[gigi_copp3]

Some updates on potential members of the Sanremo cast:
-Tedua is definitely the "seller of the year", and he might follow the steps of Rkomi and Lazza and go;
-Angelina Mango's "Ci pensiamo domani" has received the gold certification, it's doing really really well (and usually the Amici contestants who succeed are guaranteed in Sanremo);
-The Kolors's "Italodisco" is an hit; they have proposed in the last Sanremo editions, but they were not picked... Italodisco may help them!

 

[nudiecrudi]

Some updates on potential members of the Sanremo cast:
-Tedua is definitely the "seller of the year", and he might follow the steps of Rkomi and Lazza and go;
-Angelina Mango's "Ci pensiamo domani" has received the gold certification, it's doing really really well (and usually the Amici contestants who succeed are guaranteed in Sanremo);
-The Kolors's "Italodisco" is an hit; they have proposed in the last Sanremo editions, but they were not picked... Italodisco may help them!

For sure Angelina will go to Sanremo.
Hope her discographic label will put some effort on her and choose the right song.
The girl has all the potentials to be a winning horse.voice presence charisma.

 

[A-lister]

I said if before and say it again: Sanremo has so much potential and usually have some real good stuff, but for the past years we're once again back to boring male ballads...

 

[nudiecrudi]

I said if before and say it again: Sanremo has so much potential and usually have some real good stuff, but for the past years we're once again back to boring male ballads...

For most of the swedes yes Brividi and Due Vite are boring ballads
But for most of the Italians aren't at all since those two songs have reached top sellings numbers. Just have a look on YT, thousands of people singing Due Vite in the italian stadiums during Marco's concerts. And as you have written in the Croatian thread, a country should send whatever represents them, what is more representative for Italy than a beautiful and sensational ballad?
We ll always have a bunch of pop English songs in ESC , but a heartbreaking Italian ballad will have a place and be appreciated by the ESC public.
According to your opinions expressed here over the past years Italy is missing something but the results say absolutely the opposite. Italy is doing Italy sending always whatever the Italians think would be the right representative for them.
Israel Norway and Sweden send mostly English pop songs because their corrispetive audiences feel represented by this genre, Italy sends ballads for the same reason. Two weights two measures?

 

[A-lister]

For most of the swedes yes Brividi and Due Vite are boring ballads
But for most of the Italians aren't at all since those two songs have reached top sellings numbers. Just have a look on YT, thousands of people singing Due Vite in the italian stadiums during Marco's concerts. And as you have written in the Croatian thread, a country should send whatever represents them, what is more representative for Italy than a beautiful and sensational ballad?
We ll always have a bunch of pop English songs in ESC , but a heartbreaking Italian ballad will have a place and be appreciated by the ESC public.
According to your opinions expressed here over the past years Italy is missing something but the results say absolutely the opposite. Italy is doing Italy sending always whatever the Italians think would be the right representative for them.
Israel Norway and Sweden send mostly English pop songs because their corrispetive audiences feel represented by this genre, Italy sends ballads for the same reason. Two weights two measures?

I'm applauding Italy for staying local (and you know I've been praising Sanremo in terms of musical quality the past years!), but certainly there is more to Italian music than those ballads? If at least they were good (that's obviously subjective). YT views isn't a shocker when you're a country of 60 million just saying with additional quite big diaspora on top of that...

Like I said, Sanremo these days is a proof that there is so much more to Italian music, my point wasn't that you should sell out to English Pop, but there is for sure more than male ballads in Italy it's just you dismiss the more interesting or progressive/contemporary stuff in Sanremo over the more standard choices...

I am not sure how Israel got mentioned, they barely have a public selection when it comes to their songs so it's not a good example, as for Sweden (which I mention each year in the Swedish thread) it's not so much the choice of the people, it's more that Melodifestivalen is skewed in a way that you don't have any good options and there is very little that actually is representive of what Sweden's actual music scene looks like so people vote for the "lesser evil" so to speak. I would love to for Melodifestivalen to have the musical quality and authenticity of Sanremo, but it doesn't unfortunately but that's not my fault nor the Swedish people really.

 

[nudiecrudi]

I'm applauding Italy for staying local (and you know I've been praising Sanremo in terms of musical quality the past years!), but certainly there is more to Italian music than those ballads? If at least they were good (that's obviously subjective). YT views isn't a shocker when you're a country of 60 million just saying with additional quite big diaspora on top of that...

Like I said, Sanremo these days is a proof that there is so much more to Italian music, my point wasn't that you should sell out to English Pop, but there is for sure more than male ballads in Italy it's just you dismiss the more interesting or progressive/contemporary stuff in Sanremo over the more standard choices...

I am not sure how Israel got mentioned, they barely have a public selection when it comes to their songs so it's not a good example, as for Sweden (which I mention each year in the Swedish thread) it's not so much the choice of the people, it's more that Melodifestivalen is skewed in a way that you don't have any good options and there is very little that actually is representive of what Sweden's actual music scene looks like so people vote for the "lesser evil" so to speak. I would love to for Melodifestivalen to have the musical quality and authenticity of Sanremo, but it doesn't unfortunately but that's not my fault nor the Swedish people really.

I wasn't talking about YT views of their official clips. Iwas just talking about how those '' boring '' songs are appreciated by the wide public in the arenas. Selling figures means streamings mostly
Brividi was the most streamed song last year. And Due Vite is on the top right now. None of the sanremese songs you liked last year or this year reached those results so for this reason I said that the Italians decided before and after Sanremo that Brividi and Due Vite were the real representative.
I mentioned Israel because they sometimes use The voice as the selection process. Last year Michael won with I am.
I also mentioned Noway and Sweden because the public praises continuosly the same genre and mostly in English.
I think that the main question here is the personal taste. This particular genre, Italian ballad, isn't in your cords and you will never appreciate any song belonging to that genre because you don't understand and feel the essence of it.
A clear example was people singing Fai Rumore from the balconies. Imagine people in Sweden singing Mama's or in Norway singing Tix in that period.
For you are boring songs for us Italians are pure emotions.

 

[A-lister]

I wasn't talking about YT views of their official clips. Iwas just talking about how those '' boring '' songs are appreciated by the wide public in the arenas. Selling figures means streamings mostly
Brividi was the most streamed song last year. And Due Vite is on the top right now. None of the sanremese songs you liked last year or this year reached those results so for this reason I said that the Italians decided before and after Sanremo that Brividi and Due Vite were the real representative.
I mentioned Israel because they sometimes use The voice as the selection process. Last year Michael won with I am.
I also mentioned Noway and Sweden because the public praises continuosly the same genre and mostly in English.
I think that the main question here is the personal taste. This particular genre, Italian ballad, isn't in your cords and you will never appreciate any song belonging to that genre because you don't understand and feel the essence of it.
A clear example was people singing Fai Rumore from the balconies. Imagine people in Sweden singing Mama's or in Norway singing Tix in that period.
For you are boring songs for us Italians are pure emotions.

I'm not surprised that Sanremo winner songs and Eurovision entries will get the most streams being they are the most exposed ones, it kind of goes without saying.

I think you missed my point about how Melodifestivalen works and that it's not representative of the Swedish music market.

Also, I am not against ballads per se, some are good, it's just that I feel you miss out on more interesting stuff in Sanremo. Soldi and Måneskin are good examples of something different that is still authentic.

 

[nudiecrudi]

I'm not surprised that Sanremo winner songs and Eurovision entries will get the most streams being they are the most exposed ones, it kind of goes without saying.

I think you missed my point about how Melodifestivalen works and that it's not representative of the Swedish music market.

Also, I am not against ballads per se, some are good, it's just that I feel you miss out on more interesting stuff in Sanremo. Soldi and Måneskin are good examples of something different that is still authentic.

I did not miss the point, understood perfectly what you mean.
I do not follow MF so I don't have any opinion about it. I mentioned Sweden Norway and Israel because in the last 10 years they have mainly sent the same genre, Pop.
The question of having streamings because of the visibility is valid also for Loreen, Kaarija Alessandra and all the other contestants.
According to you Brividi and Due Vite had so many streamings only because they won Sanremo and went to Esc ( considering that you called them boring ballads without a remarkable quality ). Here you miss the point. Brividi and Due Vite got that success because the italians liked and like those songs. Marco will sing in SanSiro stadium here in Milan and be sure that 80.000 people will sing that boring Due Vite with him as the many thousands did during his tour in stadiums throughout Italy. This is the point you're missing.

 

[A-lister]

I did not miss the point, understood perfectly what you mean.
I do not follow MF so I don't have any opinion about it. I mentioned Sweden Norway and Israel because in the last 10 years they have mainly sent the same genre, Pop.
The question of having streamings because of the visibility is valid also for Loreen, Kaarija Alessandra and all the other contestants.
According to you Brividi and Due Vite had so many streamings only because they won Sanremo and went to Esc ( considering that you called them boring ballads without a remarkable quality ). Here you miss the point. Brividi and Due Vite got that success because the italians liked and like those songs. Marco will sing in SanSiro stadium here in Milan and be sure that 80.000 people will sing that boring Due Vite with him as the many thousands did during his tour in stadiums throughout Italy. This is the point you're missing.

Well, but I am trying to tell you why Melodifestivalen is as it as and that it's not really at all that representative, but you seem to think it is.

Anyways, there's nothing wrong with Pop, and ballads are actually quite often Pop as well, just slow songs. In the end music is subjective, you can do good or bad in all genres. My point it is getting a bit same-y and you're missing out on better and more interesting options in Sanremo, but if you want your country to only send male ballads (because it seems that is what you want?) then I guess good for you.

Tbh streams and views isn't the most important to me at least, it's cool and all if a Eurovision song becomes popular, but popularity won't determine my own taste, which isn't defined by other people's taste. And of course being a big country and these songs winning Sanremo and later entering Eurovision do help streaming numbers, that's just logical. But I didn't say these songs weren't popular in Italy, but then again does it mean that this is the only type of entries Italy should send? I guess this is where we differ.