Italy ITALY 2022 - Mahmood and Blanco - Brividi

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Ho sognato di volare con te
Su una bici di diamanti
Mi hai detto: "Sei cambiato, non vedo
Più la luce nei tuoi occhi"

La tua paura cos'è?
Un mare dove non tocchi mai
Anche se il sesso non è
La via di fuga dal fondo

Dai, non scappare da qui
Non lasciarmi così
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Tu, che mi svegli il mattino
Tu, che sporchi il letto di vino
Tu, che mi mordi la pelle
Con i tuoi occhi da vipera

E tu, sei il contrario di un angelo
E tu, sei come un pugile all'angolo
E tu scappi da qui, mi lasci così

Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Dimmi che non ho ragione
E vivo dentro una prigione
E provo a restarti vicino
Ma scusa se poi mando tutto a puttane e

Non so dirti ciò che provo, è un mio limite
Per un "ti amo" ho mischiato droghe e lacrime
Questo veleno che ci sputiamo ogni giorno
Io non lo voglio più addosso

Lo vedi, sono qui
Su una bici di diamanti, uno fra tanti
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi​

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[nudiecrudi]

There were many women artists of the past. I could name two from the past, Mina and Patty Pravo. Today, however, I can tell you that the queen is Laura Pausini. Then it all depends on the following that our Italian singers have and sadly I tell you that Emma, Francesca Michielin, Baby K, Giusy Ferreri, Amoroso and others have managed to have more hardcore fans.

Don't think that I underestimate Elisa. Personally I don't like it but I recognize that she is a top singer. I am always sincere, unlike what other eurofans think, I do not 100% defend an Italian artist or a specific musical genre. And it is for this honesty of mine that I often fight against eurofans whose comments are not sincere (the typical ones who do not like Italian songs from Rock to Ballad, from Dance to Pop ... I also heard that Il Volo did not even deserve to stay in the Top 20…).

I was just curious to know which ones.
Mina, Patty Pravo, Vanoni and Berte are legends. Too late for ESC.
Laura Pausini is an international star, personally I wouldnt go to her concerts even for free. Never go to ESC.
Giorgia has quit.
Gianna Nannini. another planet.
So on the table we have the ones who could partecipate to Sanremo and probably win and go to ESC.
There isn't anyone for whom the fans could tear their clothes.
Saying that Elisa Emma Alessandra Amoroso are the ones who fills the arenas, may we like them or not.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I was just curious to know which ones.
Mina, Patty Pravo, Vanoni and Berte are legends. Too late for ESC.
Laura Pausini is an international star, personally I wouldnt go to her concerts even for free. Never go to ESC.
Giorgia has quit.
Gianna Nannini. another planet.
So on the table we have the ones who could partecipate to Sanremo and probably win and go to ESC.
There isn't anyone for whom the fans could tear their clothes.
Saying that Elisa Emma Alessandra Amoroso are the ones who fills the arenas, may we like them or not.

In my previous message I left out some singers to summarize. It is not possible to tell them all in a short time. I share what you write and I think that among our top singers Elisa is the one who has chosen to get back into the game and I also think that she is thinking of going to the ESC. She will not come to Sanremo to make an appearance.

My earlier message was that there are many female singers, perhaps even less talent than Elisa, who have stronger audiences. Then, that Elisa does not drive me crazy, I repeat, is my personal taste. Anyway, I hope she will be able to surprise me.

 

[nudiecrudi]

In my previous message I left out some singers to summarize. It is not possible to tell them all in a short time. I share what you write and I think that among our top singers Elisa is the one who has chosen to get back into the game and I also think that she is thinking of going to the ESC. She will not come to Sanremo to make an appearance.

My earlier message was that there are many female singers, perhaps even less talent than Elisa, who have stronger audiences. Then, that Elisa does not drive me crazy, I repeat, is my personal taste. Anyway, I hope she will be able to surprise me.

I know that there are some emerging talented female singers
But you know very well what is needed to win Sanremo. You should have a well written song, good or very good lyrics and perfect singing otherwise you'll be butchered by the juries.
No one from those young female artists are mature enough. Madame showed us last year

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I know that there are some emerging talented female singers
But you know very well what is needed to win Sanremo. You should have a well written song, good or very good lyrics and perfect singing otherwise you'll be butchered by the juries.
No one from those young female artists are mature enough. Madame showed us last year

"... you know very well what it takes to win Sanremo. You should have a well-written song, good or very good lyrics and a perfect song otherwise you will be massacred by the juries ..."

You have fully expressed the reality of Sanremo. This is what some eurofans do not want to know, Sanremo by virtue of its nature independent from the ESC is a race where there can be no experiments. Also, the orchestra next to the singers says it all ... you have to be perfect to win!

It is not Italy that is more beautiful and better than the others but it is precisely the tough competition from Sanremo that has almost always made us, since we returned, in the "Top 10". The only two times in the “New Era” where we failed were Emma (a trivial product helped to win by Maria De Filippi) and Michielin (who did not win Sanremo but took over, if I remember correctly, from the Stadio).

 

[HayashiM]

That was sincerely one of the best covers of Hallelujah I've ever heard (ok, I'd only heard like 30 of them but still )

 

[A-lister]

I was just trying to explain why most of the Italian fans, and not only, are exited about Elisa, and not trying to convince you.
Anyway i think it's a question of personal taste and perception.
Corriere della Sera, one of the most important Italian newspapers, has asked to its readers '' which could be the artists that would not delude you in San Remo '', 91% indicated Elisa and 90% Mahmood & Blanco.

I understand, and yes in the end it's about personal taste.

But since so many were raving about her I just wanted to understand where they're coming from since I can't really hear it myself.

 

[nudiecrudi]

That was sincerely one of the best covers of Hallelujah I've ever heard (ok, I'd only heard like 30 of them but still )

I heard it for the first time 10 days ago. I was following on TV an international figure skating competition held in Russia, and one of the female athletes had chosen it as part of the sound track. I was very curious because I found it completely different, more intimate and expressive, less shouty and showy. Didn't know it was her. At the end of the exercise, the subtitles showed the all the details of this skating number, sound track included.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

@H.P. Lovecraft
According to you who are the Italian female artists for whom the Italian fans tear their clothes?

Hey Nudie! Yesterday your message gave me the desire to create a ranking of the 100 best Italian singers ever. However, to try to be as impartial as possible, I let my mother choose. It is surprising to see that in her ranking there are some important absences (Romina Power and Claudia Mori ) and that, unlike what is thought of the "old generation", musical tastes are by no means "conservative"

Some important artists may be missing from the ranking but, in the end, it is quite satisfying and sincere. My mother also rewarded voices that failed to make the great leap into the Olympus of music.

I await your opinion and ... I also hope that of the other eurofans! While waiting for ESC 2022, let's keep awake with a little music and healthy discussion.

P.S .: last in the standings, Heather Parisi won, was warned and received the famous "A-lister Shrug Award" !

P.P.S .: A-lister, I'm kidding! High five, man!

1. Giuni Russo
2. Tonina Torrielli
3. Flo Sandon’s
4. Manuela Villa
5. Annalisa Minetti
6. Lisa
7. Renata Tebaldi
8. Mina
9. Caterina Valente
10. Lucia Mannucci [Quartetto Cetra]

11. Anna Oxa
12. Antonella Ruggiero
13. Mia Martini / Loredana Berté
14. Grazia Di Michele
15. Paola Turci
16. Mariella Nava
17. Veronica Liberati / Anna Marchetti / Graziella Franchini / Wilma Goich / Lidia Schillaci
18. Rita Pavone
19. Gianna Nannini
20. Laura Pausini

21. Dalida
22. Anna Identici
23. Milva
24. Angela Brambati [Ricchi & Poveri]
25. Malika Ayane
26. Nina Zilli
27. Cristina D’Avena
28. Ivana Spagna
29. Rossana Fratello
30. Mietta

31. Fiordaliso
32. Orietta Berti
33. Rossana Casale
34. Raffaella Carrà
35. Donatella Rettore
36. Giorgia
37. Alessandra Amoroso
38. Ornella Vanoni
39. Alice
40. Patty Pravo

41. Alexia
42. Irene Fornaciari
43. Dolcenera
44. Luisa Corna
45. Marina Rei
46. Silvia Salemi
47. Noemi
48. Caterina Caselli
49. Fiorella Mannoia
50. Marcella Bella

51. Irene Grandi
52. Tosca
53. California (Francesca Mesiano) [Coma_Cose]
54. Veronica Lucchesi [La Rappresentante di Lista]
55. Luciana Turina
56. Iva Zanicchi
57. Alessandra Drusian [Jalisse]
58. Rita Forte
59. Irene Fargo
60. Paola & Chiara

61. Lola Ponce
62. Chiara Galliazzo
63. Aida Cooper
64. Elisa
65. Annalisa
66. Levante
67. Nada
68. Loretta Goggi
69. Arisa
70. Bianca Atzei

71. Simona Molinari
72. Giusy Ferreri
73. Emma Marrone
74. Dori Ghezzi
75. Elodie
76. Amanda Lear
77. Gabriella Ferri
78. Gigliola Cinquetti
79. Tecla Insolia
80. Francesca Michielin

81. Anna Tatangelo
82. Sabrina Salerno & Jo Squillo
83. Baby K
84. Marisa Sannia
85. Teresa De Sio
86. Brunella Selo
87. Gerardina Trovato
88. Carmen Consoli
89. Deborah Iurato
90. Trio Lescano

91. Anna Rita Spinaci
92. Silvia Mezzanotte
93. Syria
94. Valeria Rossi
95. Betty Curtis
96. Nilla Pizzi
97. Carla Boni
98. Wilma De Angelis
99. Lorella Cuccarini
100. Heather Parisi

 

[nudiecrudi]

@H.P. Lovecraft
Oddio. It's a very very difficult question ranking the top 100 italian female singers. But it's very stimulating.
About your mother's list, I think is a bit conservative, but I can understand why. From her top 10 I would save only Mina, i love Giuni Russo too but not top 10.
I'll try to make a top 20 or maybe top 30. I don't know that much the 40ies 50ies and 60ies for this reason it would be difficult to rank the artists from those decades.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

@H.P. Lovecraft
Oddio. It's a very very difficult question ranking the top 100 italian female singers. But it's very stimulating.
About your mother's list, I think is a bit conservative, but I can understand why. From her top 10 I would save only Mina, i love Giuni Russo too but not top 10.
I'll try to make a top 20 or maybe top 30. I don't know that much the 40ies 50ies and 60ies for this reason it would be difficult to rank the artists from those decades.

I tried to get him to rank "always". I mixed the "conservative" with the "new". I could also have made him do a modern ranking but I thought that so often we go and say that what the convent gives us is beautiful.

Respect for every taste but, if we have to evaluate the pure vocal technique ... Giuni is unbeatable! She was able to modulate her voice in unthinkable ways (she could replicate the cry of a seagull while she sang), she was an excellent interpreter and could sing in many languages (Japanese, Greek, French, English and I think even Spanish). Runner-up, did you know that she participated in the first ESC and that she finished second?

In the ranking there are also Veronica Liberati and Lidia Schillaci. Listen to Liberati's song "Miracle" (I found the song and vocals very close to what Melodifestivalen likes) and listen to Schillaci singing Whitney Houston ... These singers deserve a chance and you know, better than me, that the success of a singer passes through the team that is created around him (care of clothing, advertising, excellent lyrics and musical arrangements).

I'm curious to see your ranking. Admittedly, this ranking thing is fascinating.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

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LIDIA SCHILLACI:

I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU:

WHITNEY HOUSTON - I Will Always Love You - Lidia Schillaci - (Cover version)

I will always love you è uno dei miei cavalli di battaglia che canto da sempre e che ho voluto regalarvi in una versione unplugged pianoforte e voce 🎹 🎙Ho ...

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[BarefootBoogaloo]

Ciao Barefoot Boogaloo, I love how you express your concepts. You are genuine

Trust me, in Italy there are few who know him and even fewer who know that he makes music... This "freak phenomenon" that came out of Maria De Filippi's trash programs, took advantage of the opportunity to hit Ana Mena to advertise. I don't think he was offended that he was turned down for his music.

I mean, even people that failed the casting for Amici have managed to build a career for themselves while this guy is begging for attention with cheap tactics.

Personally, I would have preferred her to compete with Fred De Palma, not because she doesn't deserve to be a solo singer in Sanremo, but because it would have been something much more exciting.

Allegedly Ana's song is co-written by Rocco Hunt, which makes me hopeful that there might be some of that excitement brought to the Ariston.

I also put an article today where there was a list of some big names that have been discarded.

Stash unfollowing Amadeus being treated as if he deleted Ama's contact from his phone or swore to never participate in any future program when he did the most restrained thing out of the artists listed

Your thought of respect and healthy competition is commendable but... in reality only a few artists are like that. There is a lot of competition, a lot of sharks swimming in the water and everyone wants a piece of meat. Some artists, the most envious, have seen Ana Mena's choice as taking away a place from an Italian artist. To me they are real idiots.

I'm not super thrilled both Sangiovanni and Aka7even got invited, but there's nothing that can be done now, so in the end it would just be better to release your songs and have the revenge of submitting something next year and getting accepted. It's astounding this is the response, given that this year the complaints were that Amadeus had turned Sanremo into an indie festival and now...it's that they think others are being favorited/not as important as them, when this is meant to be about the music.

Achille Lauro was not attacked with that performance. He gets hit for whatever he does Personal opinion, I don't like Achille Lauro because he shows too much an irreverence which, in the end, is "without soul". He is held in high regard because he has a strong manager behind him and not thanks to his way of doing and to his songs that are nothing special (only "Rolls Royce" and "Mille" are saved). Renato Zero was much more ambiguous, irreverent and was able to create wonderful songs.

I was introduced to Achille, like most of us on this forum, through Sanremo, so for me, and having listened to his earlier music I definitely prefer what he's released as a visual artist, but I think he excels with the more "throwback" style, and there's that selfish part of me that once again wishes an artist would have saved a song for Sanremo, what could have been if he presented 'Bam Bam Twist'...

I have my opinion on Elisa. She in Italy she is known and much loved but she is not even an artist for whom the fans tear their clothes

It seems to me that even those artists that fans would tear their clothes for suddenly become restrained if the song they present at Sanremo is not showcasing them well, whether musically or vocally (such as Annalisa or Arisa's more recent attempts).

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I mean, even people that failed the casting for Amici have managed to build a career for themselves while this guy is begging for attention with cheap tactics.

Allegedly Ana's song is co-written by Rocco Hunt, which makes me hopeful that there might be some of that excitement brought to the Ariston.

Stash unfollowing Amadeus being treated as if he deleted Ama's contact from his phone or swore to never participate in any future program when he did the most restrained thing out of the artists listed

I'm not super thrilled both Sangiovanni and Aka7even got invited, but there's nothing that can be done now, so in the end it would just be better to release your songs and have the revenge of submitting something next year and getting accepted. It's astounding this is the response, given that this year the complaints were that Amadeus had turned Sanremo into an indie festival and now...it's that they think others are being favorited/not as important as them, when this is meant to be about the music.

I was introduced to Achille, like most of us on this forum, through Sanremo, so for me, and having listened to his earlier music I definitely prefer what he's released as a visual artist, but I think he excels with the more "throwback" style, and there's that selfish part of me that once again wishes an artist would have saved a song for Sanremo, what could have been if he presented 'Bam Bam Twist'...

It seems to me that even those artists that fans would tear their clothes for suddenly become restrained if the song they present at Sanremo is not showcasing them well, whether musically or vocally (such as Annalisa or Arisa's more recent attempts).

1. FRANCESCO MONTE:

Maybe he had failed the casting of "Amici". Francesco Monte was part of the "Uomini e Donne" programs (where a bully sitting on a throne is courted by many women and he will then choose who will be the woman of his life ) and "L'Isola dei Famosi" (I think you know well this format ... in practice, on an island some "celebrities" are exiled who will have to contend for the victory ... "Big Brother Vip" + "Survivor"...). This Francesco Monte is a useless man who lives on controversy to try to emerge from anonymity

2. ANA MENA:

Your guess of the song written by Ana Mena and Rocco Hunt is very intriguing. I'm curious to see which song Ana Mena will bring

Anyway ... we all focused on the surprise participation of the Spanish singer but ... she was already present at Sanremo 2020 together with Riki! In the "cover night" she sang "L'Edera" with him!

3.STASH:

Personally, apart from the controversy, I believe that Stash should ask himself if he really has the possibility of obtaining good results in Sanremo or doing the "usual slime figures" of Ghemon. Maybe it's my problem, I may have gotten dull too (AshleyWright, my beloved bromancer , here would agree 100% ), but I still don't understand Stash as an artist. He and his musical group seem to me a bad copy of an American or Korean boy band

4. SANGIOVANNI & AKA7EVEN:

I only know the first singer ... I saw him in passing in the program "Amici" by Maria De Filippi. Personal opinion? He distressed me I think the choice of him was made to push pimply and screaming boys to follow Sanremo

5. POLEMICS AND CONFUSION IN SANREMO:

There will always be controversy and confusion in Sanremo and this is the essential ingredient of the festival From the scandals on the stage (Celentano who turned his back on the public), to the suicide of Tenco up to modern gossip ... this is Sanremo. Perhaps the beauty in things lies in the confusion we feel When you no longer understand anything, in the end... everything is beautiful! Like the songs with "fireworks" that make many eurofans drool

6. ACHILLE LAURO:

Here is the problem of this singer. He doesn't actually sing! He makes "boiled fish eyes", dresses in a weird way and creates a faux irreverent show. When I see his shows, I always feel confusion. I look at it only for the desire to repeat to myself "What are you looking at?"? Or maybe I do it because I feel sorry for him? I still have to figure it out

I sincerely hope that he will be able to bring a great song and that he will stop putting too much emphasis on the lewd moves he has to make on stage Irreverence is a way of being and irreverence is the desire to go against the tide. What I see is just a normal guy who tries at all costs to be irreverent about "controlled topics"

7. SANREMO'S FANS:

Yes, the fans love their favorite artist and cheer for him in Sanremo but ... less than how they love and cheer for him all year round. A sort of "reset" always happens in Sanremo The public expects first of all a good song and the artist must not fail otherwise he will be scolded, pitied and laughed at. I want to give you an example, Zucchero and Vasco Rossi have almost always sucked at the festival, even reaching pathetic positions. Not even the power of Ferragni's followers was able to allow Fedez and Michielin to defeat the Maneskin

8. FORECASTS:

I want to make a prediction, this year could be the year of Irama. Last year he had a great song that would have happily reached the "Top 10" of ESC 2021 (although maybe he wouldn't have won).

9. CONCLUSION:

I know ... no need to say ... my words are caustic and full of irony! Do you think I could be a perfect judge for "X Factor" or "The Voice"?

 

[mauve]

Wanted to write my first comment in my favorite thread! I am very, very much looking forward to Sanremo festival in February! Just a few weeks to go! These will be amazing nights again ... with less sleep on my side.

 

[nudiecrudi]

Yesterday, our guys slayed on Mediolanum Forum Arena stage during X Factor's Final
Just a taste how Eurovision will be in.
I love multilayer stages, like an infernal machine where in each fragment of a second something happens.
And very happy to see the public having fun.

I MÃNESKIN cantano MAMMAMIA, I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE e ZITTI E BUONI | X Factor 2021

È il momento di scatenarsi con la seconda esibizione dei Måneskin alla Finale di X Factor 2021! Con il loro sound crudo, energico e distorto tornano sul Palc...

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[sucof]

from X FACTOR Italy:

 

[goncalovieira]

Everything in Maneskin still sounds sooooo fake.

 

[nudiecrudi]

Everything in Maneskin still sounds sooooo fake.

Ha ha ha.
I adore the fakes
I love art because is fake
I love cinema because is fake.
I love theater because is fake.
I love ESC because is completely fake.
Reality annoys me.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

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[BarefootBoogaloo]

Maybe he had failed the casting of "Amici". Francesco Monte was part of the "Uomini e Donne" programs (where a bully sitting on a throne is courted by many women and he will then choose who will be the woman of his life ) and "L'Isola dei Famosi" (I think you know well this format ... in practice, on an island some "celebrities" are exiled who will have to contend for the victory ... "Big Brother Vip" + "Survivor"...). This Francesco Monte is a useless man who lives on controversy to try to emerge from anonymity

And to think, he's taken part in so many programs, yet most people still wouldn't recognize him on the street or care

Anyway ... we all focused on the surprise participation of the Spanish singer but ... she was already present at Sanremo 2020 together with Riki! In the "cover night" she sang "L'Edera" with him!

Normally I'd say, "How could I have forgotten that," but to be fair, these last two years have felt like a blur

Personally, apart from the controversy, I believe that Stash should ask himself if he really has the possibility of obtaining good results in Sanremo or doing the "usual slime figures" of Ghemon. Maybe it's my problem, I may have gotten dull too (AshleyWright, my beloved bromancer , here would agree 100% ), but I still don't understand Stash as an artist. He and his musical group seem to me a bad copy of an American or Korean boy band

Of course there's a slight bias attached, but The Kolors to me started out as a pop punk band and have now evolved into a synthpop rock band, something that might have seemed temporary for their previous summer singles, but Stash confirmed earlier this year that this is the new direction of the band musically and aesthetically.

Now, whether that would translate to good results at Sanremo, I cannot say.

I only know the first singer ... I saw him in passing in the program "Amici" by Maria De Filippi. Personal opinion? He distressed me I think the choice of him was made to push pimply and screaming boys to follow Sanremo

I do find it interesting, however, that Enula (who was in the same season of Amici as them) submitted her song through the Giovani while they submitted theirs through the Big.

There will always be controversy and confusion in Sanremo and this is the essential ingredient of the festival From the scandals on the stage (Celentano who turned his back on the public), to the suicide of Tenco up to modern gossip ... this is Sanremo. Perhaps the beauty in things lies in the confusion we feel When you no longer understand anything, in the end... everything is beautiful! Like the songs with "fireworks" that make many eurofans drool

I suppose that is as much of a tradition as for the show to run over it's scheduled time. They always try to promise that the festival will be short, and yet every year without fail

Yes, the fans love their favorite artist and cheer for him in Sanremo but ... less than how they love and cheer for him all year round. A sort of "reset" always happens in Sanremo The public expects first of all a good song and the artist must not fail otherwise he will be scolded, pitied and laughed at. I want to give you an example, Zucchero and Vasco Rossi have almost always sucked at the festival, even reaching pathetic positions. Not even the power of Ferragni's followers was able to allow Fedez and Michielin to defeat the Maneskin

Of course, we should judge the performances and the songs for the quality and not who is behind them, but when there is a competitor that I'm a fan of whom, as you say, gets "slime figures", my bias clouds my judgement XD

I want to make a prediction, this year could be the year of Irama. Last year he had a great song that would have happily reached the "Top 10" of ESC 2021 (although maybe he wouldn't have won).

That could be possible! He only released one single since La genesi del tuo colore, so perhaps he chose to hold close to his chest the song he think could be a winner.

I know ... no need to say ... my words are caustic and full of irony! Do you think I could be a perfect judge for "X Factor" or "The Voice"?