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escYOUnited

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Ho sognato di volare con te
Su una bici di diamanti
Mi hai detto: "Sei cambiato, non vedo
Più la luce nei tuoi occhi"

La tua paura cos'è?
Un mare dove non tocchi mai
Anche se il sesso non è
La via di fuga dal fondo

Dai, non scappare da qui
Non lasciarmi così
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Tu, che mi svegli il mattino
Tu, che sporchi il letto di vino
Tu, che mi mordi la pelle
Con i tuoi occhi da vipera

E tu, sei il contrario di un angelo
E tu, sei come un pugile all'angolo
E tu scappi da qui, mi lasci così

Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Dimmi che non ho ragione
E vivo dentro una prigione
E provo a restarti vicino
Ma scusa se poi mando tutto a puttane e

Non so dirti ciò che provo, è un mio limite
Per un "ti amo" ho mischiato droghe e lacrime
Questo veleno che ci sputiamo ogni giorno
Io non lo voglio più addosso

Lo vedi, sono qui
Su una bici di diamanti, uno fra tanti
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi​
 
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I hear you, just to clarify what I mean a bit (which I also stated on the forum before):

When I look at Sanremo, it's more how it seems to be (at least to an outsider) an active force in Italian music and a representation of that market and for that market first and foremost. It doesn't try to be something else (a tool for Eurovision or a musical bubble unrelated to the current music scene of the country which Melodifestivalen currently is) and also manages to attract big and popular local names (which MF is unable to do with its current approach).

What I don't like with Sanremo, and here I agree with you that Melodifestivalen is better, is the odd and lengthy structure and format, the questionable juries and voting system (which still to a larger extent seems to favor male and/-or conservative entries, even if it has become better lately), the random cover evening thrown into the mix etc.

I mean there are pros and cons with both, but if we look at what actually matters in the end and that is the music it produces, then yes I think Sanremo is these days a far stronger and more relevant selection than Melodifestivalen (see more previous points).
I agree with what you say.

As an Italian (and I believe many others like me too), I am proud that Sanremo is not "a tool for the ESC". This guarantees higher quality.

The juries and the votes, I admit, are a little crazy. However, I do not fully agree when you say that the Italian system is "patriarchal". We go to see the songs that have brought the female singers and we see that compared to the male singers, they are not sinful of talent but of strong songs. I go to mind, I hope not to forget something, maybe only Elodie with "Andromeda" had a strong enough song.

Arisa, for example, is able to do and has shown it also energetic songs and instead in Sanremo she always brings ballads full of love or sad ... Baby K has never expressed the will to participate in Sanremo and ... Elettra Lamborghini and Myss Keta are unable to compete with the many queens of the ESC. Probably, this year Elisa could be a candidate for victory and, compared to the majority of Italian artists, she is used to singing in English too (will Italy for the first time choose not to sing in Italian?).

On the "conservative" songs, it is true that Sanremo have a predilection for ballads and melody but in reality at the ESC, from 2011 to today, we have always brought new genres. We have gradually left our "old dress". Sanremo has been giving more and more space to artists for years, I will give you some examples, such as Irama ("La genesi del tuo colore", first of all), Willie Peyote (with his opposing rap), Achille Lauro (with his style irreverent), The Maneskin (with their Rock) and also the Boomdabash (with Cuban / Caribbean sounds).

Probably, the problem of the Melodifestivalen but above all of the whole ESC panorama is that the other delegations struggle to bring their best singers to the ESC stage. There is still a strong stereotype about the European festival and the best singers are afraid to participate. From now on, however, with the ever-increasing success of the ESC and the global love achieved by the Maneskin, something will change.

You will not believe it but in Italy another revolution has taken place thanks to the Maneskin. Many famous singers in Italy hit the Maneskin hard because they were envious of their great success around the world. Surely it was also this that pushed Elisa to participate (her last participation was in 2001!). And it is also for this reason that an artist like Ana Mena has chosen to participate, not through the Spanish ESC selection, but through the tough race in Sanremo.

I remain of the opinion that Sweden will be able to bring strong singers in the coming years, will not be afraid to sing in Swedish and will be able to experience the Melodifestivalen as an important festival and not as a satellite for the ESC. Who knows, it was we Italians who gave you this stimulus? Our passion is contagious and there is no mask that can protect you xlove I am a poet! xheat Give me a violin!xviolin
 

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Melodifestivalen has turned into a parody of itself unfortunately, I would love for Sweden to have a song contest / festival that is a relevant part of the Swedish music scene similar to what Sanremo is in Italy, but one can just dream.

Mostly looking forward to Giusy and Mahmood, but other names look interesting too (but some I know too little about yet). Everybody is raving over Elisa, I checked some of her back-catalog and while some songs are pretty fine, she seems kinda basic to me so not sure what's so special?
Her live is incredible.Id say without doubt she is world class.If she has the song her jury and televote power will be huge.Right song the audience will lift the Ariston roof off.It will be interesting to see who she brings for covers night.I would of guessed Emma if she wasnt already there.Outside chance Alessandra Amoroso.

 
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@hunty73

I can't belive Iva Zannichi will be there.. xfaint

It just transports me to ESC in 60s 70s.. xlove xheart

What a beautiful, nostalgic approach.. xlove xheart

"Due Grosse Lacrime Bianche" is the evergreen of the ESC... xbow
 
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Is this true Italy??


Can we agree on not sending to the ESC Ana Mena, Giussy Ferreri Shimmy Shimmy Limmy Mimmy Kimmy and Irama?

In the name of music, In nome del padre (ref. Må) 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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I think my un/favorite part of this entire post is that it includes completely unnecessary confessions (plural!) to quite a few infractions (plural!) that were not even at issue :lol:

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It will be interesting to see who she brings for covers night.I would of guessed Emma if she wasnt already there.Outside chance Alessandra Amoroso
Maybe the walking legend, Fiorella Mannoia! :eek: xlove xheart
 

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Also while i'm here, totally hyped to hear what Ana Mena has lined up. xheat
 

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I'm hyped for 90% of the lineup.. xheat
Sanremo is like a dream.. xfaint

Would be a dream if it wasn't 6 hours long :lol:

This year the songs were good but I didn't follow it 'cause that length was just annoying :lol:
 
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Gianni Morandi is legit on the Sanremo 2022 list? My father will have a heart attack. :lol: Nice to see Ana Mena, Elisa, Emma, Giusy Ferreri, Mahmood and Michele Bravi there too. I was hoping Fulminacci would try again with something stronger though ;;
 

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Gianni Morandi is legit on the Sanremo 2022 list? My father will have a heart attack. :lol: Nice to see Ana Mena, Elisa, Emma, Giusy Ferreri, Mahmood and Michele Bravi there too. I was hoping Fulminacci would try again with something stronger though ;;
Iva Zannichi is 5 years older than him.. :lol:
 
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Controversy in Italy and Spain for the participation of Ana Mena. The regulation, however, does not place conditions on the nationality of the singer in the competition, but only on the song which "must be in Italian".
 
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"She's not Italian and shouldn't be in Sanremo," they complain, and yet, Sanremo's past contestants as early as the 60's have included non-Italians.

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While I'm very sure the majority of the people complaining about Ana are the same ones that were complaining about Mahmood and Ermal Meta winning because they "don't represent Italy," it's still annoying.

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"She's not Italian and shouldn't be in Sanremo," they complain, and yet, Sanremo's past contestants as early as the 60's have included non-Italians.

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While I'm very sure the majority of the people complaining about Ana are the same ones that were complaining about Mahmood and Ermal Meta winning because they "don't represent Italy," it's still annoying.

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The controversy in Italy started with Francesco Monte (a former participant of a Maria De Filippi program). The reason? Envy. For some time he has been trying to get his musical career off the ground with little success.

In Spain, on the other hand, I believe that the controversy stems from the fact that, after a few failed ESCs, Ana Mena would have served them more than Italy. If Ana Mena wins Sanremo and I make a strange hypothesis, she reaches the "Top 3", Spain would not like her very much.

Anyway, I think like you, Boogaloo. In the past Sanremo has also seen non-Italian singers participate. Sanremo is the "festival of song in the Italian language" (it is at the same level as the ESC where many choose to conform to the English language - and in fact, Bezençon was inspired by the Sanremo model for the creation of the ESC). But we have to clarify one thing. If I remember correctly, in the past non-Italian singers participated in pairs with an Italian singer. Amadeus is continuing to make a pleasant revolution. Fortunately we are "conservative" and "patriarchal".

Mahmood and Ermal Meta have many admirers here in Italy and then, even if they have foreign origins, they are 100% Italian. According to the reasoning of a member of the forum, even if their songs have sounds that are a baggage of their foreign culture (they have non-Italian parents, in fact), those sounds are not derived from the country of origin but from Italy. Same thing, if the artist, for example Mahmood, expresses Arabic words, those are to be considered a new Italian dialect. I don't invent anything. If I remember correctly it was mentioned in a thread opened by Realest. EDIT: to better explain this concept, we Italians accept them as Italians but we also respect the different cultural nuances. I saw instead that when I approached these singers to other cultures, it was as if some Eurofans rejected this thing.

Those who hated Mahmood and Ermal Meta are only the envious, the same envious people who hated the Måneskin for their success.
 
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