Italy ITALY 2022 - Mahmood and Blanco - Brividi

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Ho sognato di volare con te
Su una bici di diamanti
Mi hai detto: "Sei cambiato, non vedo
Più la luce nei tuoi occhi"

La tua paura cos'è?
Un mare dove non tocchi mai
Anche se il sesso non è
La via di fuga dal fondo

Dai, non scappare da qui
Non lasciarmi così
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Tu, che mi svegli il mattino
Tu, che sporchi il letto di vino
Tu, che mi mordi la pelle
Con i tuoi occhi da vipera

E tu, sei il contrario di un angelo
E tu, sei come un pugile all'angolo
E tu scappi da qui, mi lasci così

Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Dimmi che non ho ragione
E vivo dentro una prigione
E provo a restarti vicino
Ma scusa se poi mando tutto a puttane e

Non so dirti ciò che provo, è un mio limite
Per un "ti amo" ho mischiato droghe e lacrime
Questo veleno che ci sputiamo ogni giorno
Io non lo voglio più addosso

Lo vedi, sono qui
Su una bici di diamanti, uno fra tanti
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi​

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[Sammy]

i don’t remember this kind of discussion when Paolo Menguzzi took part in San Remo.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

i don’t remember this kind of discussion when Paolo Menguzzi took part in San Remo.

Paolo Meneguzzi, compared to Ana Mena, is helped by some factors:

1) Dual citizenship: Italian and Swiss.
2) Italy and Switzerland have a strong cultural relationship due to the many Italian immigrants and also to those who in Italy are known as "Frontiers" (people who live on the Italian border and go to work in Switzerland).
3) The Italian name and surname which helps to get him accepted.
4) Although Paolo Meneguzzi is a good singer, he did not have the success and the following obtained by Ana Mena.

Where does the criticism come from? Here is another scheme:

A) Italian artists rejected by Sanremo and envious.
B) From the all-Italian culture that "If you are not 100% Italian the success you will get is a stolen success".
C) From some stupid people.
D) From the Spanish delegation that sees an opportunity to choose a top singer "stolen". Of course, Spain also has many other top singers to send to the ESC. Sanremo is not to blame if Ana Mena has chosen to participate. Ana felt that her collaborations with Fred De Palma and Rocco Hunt were so positive that she took this step to fully enter the Italian music market.

 

[hzalfa]

TBF Ana Mena was probably planning to enter Sanremo before Benidorm was even announced, considering she already tried to enter last year.

 

[Sammy]

1) Dual citizenship: Italian and Swiss.

Oh, I didn‘t know that! I thought he was only swiss…

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Oh, I didn‘t know that! I thought he was only swiss…

Just to let you know more about Paolo Meneguzzi, he too has received several criticisms (both in Italy and in Switzerland):

A) In 2010 Paolo Meneguzzi was criticized by some gay sites for the phrase: "Sexual choice doesn't matter."

B) Also in 2010 it was found by the TV show "Le Iene" that her song "Imprevedibile" was very similar to Britney Spears' "Womanizer".

C) In 2015 he had to respond to the accusations of having influenced the regional selections of the Eurovision Song Contest for Switzerland, together with the other juror Simone Tomassini; both would have favored two artists.

However, in Sanremo there will always be criticism whether the singer is Italian or foreign. Sanremo lives on the constant controversy, in some ways it is similar to soap operas like "Beautiful" (this also fascinates the fans). For example, Achille Lauro was continually destroyed by the Italian public and also by artists such as Renato Zero and Cristiano Malgioglio who said "What is special about him? He is not irreverent but only shows. The things he does we did in much more sanctimonious times ".

A warm greeting, friend

 

[A-lister]

Her live is incredible.Id say without doubt she is world class.If she has the song her jury and televote power will be huge.Right song the audience will lift the Ariston roof off.It will be interesting to see who she brings for covers night.I would of guessed Emma if she wasnt already there.Outside chance Alessandra Amoroso.

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That wasn't incredible live vocals? On the contrary, pretty shaky.

On top of that, her material isn't all that amazing, I listened through some of her biggest songs to date (No Hero I already knew from before) and dug a bit deeper into her latest album to get some sort of idea of the artist she is and what makes her so "wow" according to everybody, and I can't say I am blown away (there were some ok songs sure, and maybe her gems are hidden on the albums rather than her biggest singles), but I was expecting something more mind blowing to be honest based on everyone's reactions.

With that said, of course we will have to wait for the entry, and it's not as if she's bad, but pretty basic imho. Based on the names I know, Giusy and Mahmood are far more interesting and since we already had Mahmood my first pick would be Giusy (but again it's solely based on name-recognition and back-catalog, still don't know the entries, who knows... maybe I'll join #TeamElisa when all is said and done).

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Sanremo 2022, da Pago a Stash i grandi esclusi del Festival

Da Stash e i The Kolors a Pago, fino ai Jalisse: molti artisti sono stati esclusi dal “Festival di Sanremo 2022” (e non l’hanno presa affatto bene).

www.google.it

Here is the list of some names excluded from Sanremo 2022.

 

[nudiecrudi]

@A-lister
I can understand why you don't find her so amazing as most of the Italians do.
In Italy she is a very very respectable artist. She was one of the opening acts of Torino Winter Olympic Games in 2006 and that means a lot because we have so many great artists but she was chosen. The other opening act was Luciano Pavarotti.
Maybe you don't feel her that much because you are not Italian and don't understand Italian.
The lyrics of her songs are always beautiful, well written.
And the voice.
Here a link where you could realize better what kind of maestry she has.
Obviously she is the opposite of a screaming diva.

Elisa stupisce con Hallelujah 2017

Descrizione

youtu.be

 

[goncalovieira]

Elisa is great and well known in Italy, but... is she interested to enter in Eurovision?

 

[hzalfa]

Elisa is great and well known in Italy, but... is she interested to enter in Eurovision?

Considering how difficult it is to tour at the moment, Eurovision is probably the best alternative way to promote her new album. Especially considering that half of it is going to be in English.

 

[Ajeje Brazorf]

i don’t remember this kind of discussion when Paolo Menguzzi took part in San Remo.

Or Lola Ponce (winner in 2008 with Giò di Tonno), or Ermal Meta (winner in 2018 with Fabrizio Moro) or Raquel del Rosario who sang with Luca Barbarossa, (I don't remember the year), or Las Ketchup (Sanremo 2004). Sanremo it's the Festival of Italian Songs, not the Festival of Italian singers. The songs are all Italian Songs, but the singers can be from everywhere.Even Elina Nechayeva, Bonaparti.lv and Mihai could have participate if they wanted to, just saying.

 

[BarefootBoogaloo]

The controversy in Italy started with Francesco Monte (a former participant of a Maria De Filippi program). The reason? Envy. For some time he has been trying to get his musical career off the ground with little success.

This certainly won't make me run to listen to any of his music, it doesn't matter if he's an amazing singer and songwriter (then again, if he was either of those things, he wouldn't rely on cheap attacks)

In Spain, on the other hand, I believe that the controversy stems from the fact that, after a few failed ESCs, Ana Mena would have served them more than Italy. If Ana Mena wins Sanremo and I make a strange hypothesis, she reaches the "Top 3", Spain would not like her very much.

Ana (or her team) posting a picture of Massiel at Eurovision 1968 was a mistake, though, as that was obviously mis-understood to mean that she had submitted an entry to Benidorm Festival, so in that sense, I understand why some Spaniards would feel hurt to see that she's instead participating in Sanremo.

Anyway, I think like you, Boogaloo. In the past Sanremo has also seen non-Italian singers participate. Sanremo is the "festival of song in the Italian language" (it is at the same level as the ESC where many choose to conform to the English language - and in fact, Bezençon was inspired by the Sanremo model for the creation of the ESC). But we have to clarify one thing. If I remember correctly, in the past non-Italian singers participated in pairs with an Italian singer. Amadeus is continuing to make a pleasant revolution. Fortunately we are "conservative" and "patriarchal".

I wonder if she had Fred de Palma or Rocco Hunt joining her onstage, would there have even been such a "scandal".

A) Italian artists rejected by Sanremo and envious.

You yourself explained how tough the selection is to be invited to Sanremo and how even the most loved performers can get rejected. These artists are acting as if they won't be able to release their songs; if anything, when they release them, the music can be enjoyed and they can submit another song next year.

D) From the Spanish delegation that sees an opportunity to choose a top singer "stolen". Of course, Spain also has many other top singers to send to the ESC. Sanremo is not to blame if Ana Mena has chosen to participate. Ana felt that her collaborations with Fred De Palma and Rocco Hunt were so positive that she took this step to fully enter the Italian music market.

I admit, when I first heard Ana it was her duet with Fred, and when I kept hearing her collaborating on the summer singles with Rocco and others, I had just assumed that she was fully in the Italian market.

For example, Achille Lauro was continually destroyed by the Italian public and also by artists such as Renato Zero and Cristiano Malgioglio who said "What is special about him? He is not irreverent but only shows. The things he does we did in much more sanctimonious times ".

I wonder if those were among the comments heard during this performance

 

[A-lister]

@A-lister
I can understand why you don't find her so amazing as most of the Italians do.
In Italy she is a very very respectable artist. She was one of the opening acts of Torino Winter Olympic Games in 2006 and that means a lot because we have so many great artists but she was chosen. The other opening act was Luciano Pavarotti.
Maybe you don't feel her that much because you are not Italian and don't understand Italian.
The lyrics of her songs are always beautiful, well written.
And the voice.
Here a link where you could realize better what kind of maestry she has.
Obviously she is the opposite of a screaming diva.

Elisa stupisce con Hallelujah 2017

Descrizione

youtu.be

I mean it could very well be a local thing, I am just simply not blown away and yes since my knowledge in Italian is limited to say the least, I judge the overall package of what I hear (and to be honest lyrics is one of the last things I care about in a song unless it's super stupid or something... like often English lyrics are in Eurovision written by people who clearly don't have English as their first language so I am happy Italy mostly went with Italian).

"Hallelujah" is literally the most covered song in all those singing talent shows, I prefer to judge artists based on their own music, and again I am missing what's so special here?

But yeah, I do appreciate she's not a wailing screamer at least, that's mostly done by singers who need to cover up that they aren't so technically good in the first place.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

This certainly won't make me run to listen to any of his music, it doesn't matter if he's an amazing singer and songwriter (then again, if he was either of those things, he wouldn't rely on cheap attacks)

Ana (or her team) posting a picture of Massiel at Eurovision 1968 was a mistake, though, as that was obviously mis-understood to mean that she had submitted an entry to Benidorm Festival, so in that sense, I understand why some Spaniards would feel hurt to see that she's instead participating in Sanremo.



I wonder if she had Fred de Palma or Rocco Hunt joining her onstage, would there have even been such a "scandal".

You yourself explained how tough the selection is to be invited to Sanremo and how even the most loved performers can get rejected. These artists are acting as if they won't be able to release their songs; if anything, when they release them, the music can be enjoyed and they can submit another song next year.



I admit, when I first heard Ana it was her duet with Fred, and when I kept hearing her collaborating on the summer singles with Rocco and others, I had just assumed that she was fully in the Italian market.



I wonder if those were among the comments heard during this performance

Ciao Barefoot Boogaloo, I love how you express your concepts. You are genuine

I will try to express my answers in an equally schematic way:

A) Francesco Monte:

Trust me, in Italy there are few who know him and even fewer who know that he makes music... This "freak phenomenon" that came out of Maria De Filippi's trash programs, took advantage of the opportunity to hit Ana Mena to advertise. I don't think he was offended that he was turned down for his music.

B) Ana Mena:

Indeed, in my opinion, Ana Mena got the communication wrong. The Spaniards have a right to be irritated. For the rest, Ana Mena can decide to participate in any festival she wants. She evidently considers Sanremo a tough competition where she can clash with strong artists and a very selective jury.

I agree with you. If Ana Mena had participated together with Fred De Palma and Rocco Hunt surely there would have been no controversy. Indeed, everyone would have seen her participation together with an Italian singer as something "exotic". Personally, I would have preferred her to compete with Fred De Palma, not because she doesn't deserve to be a solo singer in Sanremo, but because it would have been something much more exciting. Aside from that, I still compliment Amadeus for his great courage. I had been wondering for years why Sanremo did not allow foreign singers to participate. We are talking about the "festival of music in the Italian language" and not a festival only for Italian singers.

C) Envious artists:

It is true. What we see on the Sanremo stage is the result of a very hard previous selection process. I also put an article today where there was a list of some big names that have been discarded. Your thought of respect and healthy competition is commendable but... in reality only a few artists are like that. There is a lot of competition, a lot of sharks swimming in the water and everyone wants a piece of meat. Some artists, the most envious, have seen Ana Mena's choice as taking away a place from an Italian artist. To me they are real idiots.

D) Ana mena 2:

No, Ana Mena in Italy many did not even know who she was. If she hadn't duet with Rocco Hunt and Fred De Palma, I think she wouldn't have had much of a chance to enter the Italian market. Now, however, it can be said that she is a fairly popular artist and that she can lead young public to take even more interest in Sanremo.

E) Achille Lauro:

Achille Lauro was not attacked with that performance. He gets hit for whatever he does Personal opinion, I don't like Achille Lauro because he shows too much an irreverence which, in the end, is "without soul". He is held in high regard because he has a strong manager behind him and not thanks to his way of doing and to his songs that are nothing special (only "Rolls Royce" and "Mille" are saved). Renato Zero was much more ambiguous, irreverent and was able to create wonderful songs.

F) Conclusion:

Now I am going to answer those who have talked about Elisa

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I have my opinion on Elisa. She in Italy she is known and much loved but she is not even an artist for whom the fans tear their clothes

I, along with Francesca Michielin and Emma Marrone, have never liked her very much. She has a beautiful voice , her lyrics are beautiful, she can sing in English but ... her sounds are mostly sad, honey, almost depressing ... I have changed the radio station that was playing several times one of her songs about her.

Surely Elisa is thinking about the ESC! After the victory of the Maneskin, the ESC has taken on a great value for Italian artists and then let's remember that this edition will be hosted in Italy. I think she thinks ESC 2022 can be a great stage to advertise and, following her participation, to present her albums. Elisa is very fond of the foreign market and this has been seen several times when she sang her songs in English.

 

[nudiecrudi]

I mean it could very well be a local thing, I am just simply not blown away and yes since my knowledge in Italian is limited to say the least, I judge the overall package of what I hear (and to be honest lyrics is one of the last things I care about in a song unless it's super stupid or something... like often English lyrics are in Eurovision written by people who clearly don't have English as their first language so I am happy Italy mostly went with Italian).

"Hallelujah" is literally the most covered song in all those singing talent shows, I prefer to judge artists based on their own music, and again I am missing what's so special here?

But yeah, I do appreciate she's not a wailing screamer at least, that's mostly done by singers who need to cover up that they aren't so technically good in the first place.

I was just trying to explain why most of the Italian fans, and not only, are exited about Elisa, and not trying to convince you.
Anyway i think it's a question of personal taste and perception.
Corriere della Sera, one of the most important Italian newspapers, has asked to its readers '' which could be the artists that would not delude you in San Remo '', 91% indicated Elisa and 90% Mahmood & Blanco.

 

[nudiecrudi]

@H.P. Lovecraft
According to you who are the Italian female artists for whom the Italian fans tear their clothes?

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

@H.P. Lovecraft
According to you who are the Italian female artists for whom the Italian fans tear their clothes?

There were many women artists of the past. I could name two from the past, Mina and Patty Pravo. Today, however, I can tell you that the queen is Laura Pausini. Then it all depends on the following that our Italian singers have and sadly I tell you that Emma, Francesca Michielin, Baby K, Giusy Ferreri, Amoroso and others have managed to have more hardcore fans.

Don't think that I underestimate Elisa. Personally I don't like it but I recognize that she is a top singer. I am always sincere, unlike what other eurofans think, I do not 100% defend an Italian artist or a specific musical genre. And it is for this honesty of mine that I often fight against eurofans whose comments are not sincere (the typical ones who do not like Italian songs from Rock to Ballad, from Dance to Pop ... I also heard that Il Volo did not even deserve to stay in the Top 20…).

 

[Ausesken]

Really excited to see Elisa among the participants this year!
I'm also glad to know Ana Mena has got invited to this. As some of you mentioned, some people in Spain are upset about this, but let's be honest: Spain doesn't pay enough attention to its artists and when they succeed in another country people get upset because they give them chances to shine. Alvaro Soler was also more popular in Italy than in Spain. Now live with it.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Really excited to see Elisa among the participants this year!
I'm also glad to know Ana Mena has got invited to this. As some of you mentioned, some people in Spain are upset about this, but let's be honest: Spain doesn't pay enough attention to its artists and when they succeed in another country people get upset because they give them chances to shine. Alvaro Soler was also more popular in Italy than in Spain. Now live with it.

I agree with your every word. Ausesken.

I am sorry that Spain does not pay attention to her artists. You could shine a lot more!

I hope that this choice of Ana Mena gives Spain the desire to believe in the ESC.