Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

[escYOUnited]

Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[Fluke]

Alright, so there's some good parts in here - the backing is very dynamic and the instrumental breaks quite creative, it has an authentic rock feel unlike the over-produced variety more common in ESC, but the vocals are going to be the problem here. WAY too wordy, since nobody is going to understand the lyrics, it just comes out as monotonous rambling that's not even expressive or intense, just weird sounding to the vast majority.

What's this thing Italy has for sending songs with so many words in them, anyway? I still think with a good staging and performance it could stand out enough to get a decent placement, considering the equally wordy and musically dull "Non mi avete fatto niente" got fifth place, top 10 is not unreasonable for this as well.

 

[novitopoli]

It must've truly been extremely close before the 5th night among pretty much everyone.
Proof lies with Ermal. What we know is that he'd been first before the televote. He got 8.5% in televote but still his final average is 5.6% - so the televote actually improved his average. If we assume the smallest weight of televote possible - 25% - , we can calculate Ermal's highest % pre 5th night possible as (5.6 x 4 - 8.5) / 3 = 4.63% The larger the weight of the televote, the lower is Ermal's average pre 5th night. In any case, we know Ermal did not have more than 4.63% before the final night and it was still enough to be 1st.

How crazy is this? The average in a pool of 26 entries is 100 / 26 = 3.85%. If even the best cannot get more than 4.63%... It's all extremely close, much closer than I'd thought. If the televote weighed more (like 1/3), the results pre 5th night would've had to be actually even closer (with Ermal's average pre-5th night of 4.16% still being enough for a 1st place, and the overall average still at 3.85% - so, I believe the televote truly only holds a 1/4 weight for the final ranking before we enter the top 3 play, where its weight becomes 1/3).

I hadn't thought about doing the math!

Indeed, televoting only held a 25% weight.

On Friday, Ermal had (5.5969 - 8.4830 * 0.25) / 0.75 % = 4.6349% of the total vote.
Max Gazzè, who was 14th on Friday, had (3.1641 - 0.6591 * 0.25) / 0.75% = 3.9991% of the total vote.
Extraliscio in 13th had 4.0392%: it was really a matter of the top half of the standings being separated by 0.6% votes.
Fedez and Francesca were 17th at 3.8084% (just barely below-average!), Madame was 18th at 3.7561%.
Fasma 19th at 3.6523%, Ghemon 20th at 3.6328%. The top 20 was separated by just 1%, which is almost as much as the gap between Ghemon and Aiello (last at 2,8072%). Basically there were 20 entries in it for the win.

Doing the same math on last year's results (23 entries, average at 4,74%), Diodato led on Friday with a staggering 8,92%, followed by Gabbani at 6,87%, Le Vibrazioni at 5,97%, Pinguini at 5,89%, Pelù at 5,73%.Tosca at 5,43%, and Elodie at 4,80% (on 7th place but just barely "above average" and basically out of contention for the podium). This pretty much meant two thirds of the podium were set in stone by Friday, with only three (maybe four?) entries in contention for the third spot.

 

[midnightsun]

Add 20 years and you have my age ...

#teamommi

 

[nudiecrudi]

I don't care if italy will be top 10, win or be last. I'm not worried at all about any kind of ranking.
I'm sure that Maneskin will give everything they have in Rotterdam and offer to us an incredible spectacle.
You may not like a genre or a style, and that's ok (i don't like all the slut dance songs and we have some this year), but undoubtedly Maneskin offer a high quality product. They kick all the boxes.
If we leave aside all the delusions because our preferred one didn't win, Irama Annalisa, FM, ect ect and concentrate our attention toward this song I thing we will easily understand that they gave an incredible but credible performance last night.
Believe me guys winning Sanremo isn't easy at all. You have to pass through so many judging levels and these level sometimes seem so discrepant but at the end the best song comes through.
Just an example. Fedez and Francesca didn't convince two judging levels but over won with one of them. It was not enough. Viceversa Ermal Meta, but at the end Maneskin were the ones who convinced mostly all the juries, over winning with the televote without being favorites.
Just to end my thoughts. What happened wasn't casually. Maneskin s win was deserved compl

Alright, so there's some good parts in here - the backing is very dynamic and the instrumental breaks quite creative, it has an authentic rock feel unlike the over-produced variety more common in ESC, but the vocals are going to be the problem here. WAY too wordy, since nobody is going to understand the lyrics, it just comes out as monotonous rambling that's not even expressive or intense, just weird sounding to the vast majority.

What's this thing Italy has for sending songs with so many words in them, anyway? I still think with a good staging and performance it could stand out enough to get a decent placement, considering the equally wordy and musically dull "Non mi avete fatto niente" got fifth place, top 10 is not unreasonable for this as well.

It's so difficult for a swede to understand why usually Italian songs are full of words.
Because we have something to say, a narrative and that song you said was dull was a real gem ( think about Dance you off or Is it to late for love or that guys on the tapis roulant)
We do not make plastic songs just to win a competition or to be sold to Azerbaijan Bulgaria or Malta.
Zitti e Buoni has a lot of words because Maneskin want to comunicate us that they don't want to be homologated, to be free to do, think and say whatever they want. They are 20 years old but with clear ideas.
It's a long long long time I don't listen a word in Swedish in your esc songs. By the way it's called homologation

 

[heke1988]

I haven't yet listened this or any other selected Eurovision song except Finland, but I am happy, that there will be another rock genre in this year's competition!

 

[HayashiM]

I hadn't thought about doing the math!

Indeed, televoting only held a 25% weight.

On Friday, Ermal had (5.5969 - 8.4830 * 0.25) / 0.75 % = 4.6349% of the total vote.
Max Gazzè, who was 14th on Friday, had (3.1641 - 0.6591 * 0.25) / 0.75% = 3.9991% of the total vote.
Extraliscio in 13th had 4.0392%: it was really a matter of the top half of the standings being separated by 0.6% votes.
Fedez and Francesca were 17th at 3.8084% (just barely below-average!), Madame was 18th at 3.7561%.
Fasma 19th at 3.6523%, Ghemon 20th at 3.6328%. The top 20 was separated by just 1%, which is almost as much as the gap between Ghemon and Aiello (last at 2,8072%). Basically there were 20 entries in it for the win.

Doing the same math on last year's results (23 entries, average at 4,74%), Diodato led on Friday with a staggering 8,92%, followed by Gabbani at 6,87%, Le Vibrazioni at 5,97%, Pinguini at 5,89%, Pelù at 5,73%.Tosca at 5,43%, and Elodie at 4,80% (on 7th place but just barely "above average" and basically out of contention for the podium). This pretty much meant two thirds of the podium were set in stone by Friday, with only three (maybe four?) entries in contention for the third spot.

Last year's numbers were exactly what I was basing myself on when doing my initial predictions (which lead for instance to concluding after Thursday, that Maneskin has almost zero chances ). How wrong! In comparison to last year (or imo, any other year one could think of ), everyone was truly extremely close, I never would have guessed that and I didn't believe the occasional rumours about Amadeus pointing out how close it is (I don't understand Italian that well), taking it for hype building...

 

[mauve]

#teamommi

Or
#teamdinosaur

 

[Pål Nordahl]

Oh my god, I couldn’t be happier that Irama will be representing Italy in Rotterdam. Finally my second favorite country on earth will actually have a chance to win Eurovision again. Such an amazing, unique song! I’m so proud of your decision, Italian fam. Top of my ranking - throwing my points at you.

Don’t come at me. Just let me have this.

 

[Mainshow]

Maneskin has a huge bulge - that pic of the group in their Sanremo Final outfit was .. eh.. interesting.

I guess that of mine for a song I do not like at all is justified now

 

[nudiecrudi]

Maneskin has a huge bulge - that pic of the group in their Sanremo Final outfit was .. eh.. interesting.

I guess that of mine for a song I do not like at all is justified now

You are so generous.

 

[Mainshow]

You are so generous.

Grazie

Italy has become one of my favourite countries in Eurovision - I guess, it's alright to heavily dislike a song after 11 years

 

[nudiecrudi]

Grazie

Italy has become one of my favourite countries in Eurovision - I guess, it's alright to heavily dislike a song after 11 years

I absolutely agree with you.
I would have preferred to have a 0 because you don't like it at all.

 

[VikingTiger]

Italian quality rock!
Love the lead singer's voice. I loved Torna a Casa and L'altra Dimensione. So I was looking forward to hear what Måneskin would bring this year. But unfortunately I am not very fond of Zitti e Buoni. I guess I prefer the softer version of the group.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

SEX PISTOLS "BODIES":

She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was Pauline she lived in a tree
She was a no-one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal
She was a bloody disgrace
Body I'm not an animal
Body I'm not an animal
Dragged on a table in a factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming
Body screaming fucking bloody mess
Not an animal it's an abortion
Body I'm not an animal
Mummy I'm an abortion
Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess
I'm not a discharge
I'm not a loss in protein
I'm not a throbbing squirm
Ah! Fuck this and fuck that
Fuck it all tha fuck out of the fucking brat
She don't wanna a baby that looks like that
I don't wanna a baby that looks like that
Body I'm not an animal
Body, an abortion
Body I'm not an animal
Body I'm not an animal
An animal
I'm not an animal
I'm not an animal, an animal, an-an-an animal
I'm not a body
I'm not an animal, an animal, an-an-an animal
I'm not an animal
Mummy! Ugh!

Why show the lyrics of the great Sex Pistols? I state that in Italy the album "Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols" was gold record!

I have seen several Brits turn up their noses at the Maneskin sound (incomprehensible as it is almost close to their way of playing Rock - it is not our fault that you trust Newman!) But ... the maximum was reached when I read a brit-fan explaining the reason for his 0. After translating the text, he felt upset. Looks like the Maneskin are "dirty" worse than a garbage can. These guys, I would like to point out, are not the usual junkies but they are four music lovers who live in Monteverde (one of the most "in" areas of Rome). Here I see people who cling to the most mundane excuses. The Sex Pistols and many other rock bands didn't talk about little flowers, butterflies and smiling babies with red cheeks and snow-white nappies I just can't understand this indignation. Probably some Brit-fans have forgotten their origins and they don't care about Rock anymore. Or ... by now the fans of Rock have been infected by the mainstream Rock of Linkin-Park and company.

The Maneskin are the demonstration how Italy can bring to the ESC also a Nordic sound or close to a distant culture and always be cataloged in a summary way as a "Mediterranean" country, and that it usually brings "old ballads" played with the faithful mandolin (even if you can't see it, an invisible mandolin always accompanies us). It doesn't matter how much we prove otherwise every year.

Then go and look at the rankings drawn up by some Eurofan and ... more than a piece of coal passed off as gold is false.

I thank Sanremo for not having made Irama win. Our singer would be buried by Senhit's "masterpiece". My God! Soothe my pain! The sound is good but it is the same that we have listen every year at the ESC ... and yet, I am happy for San Marino. Because the Titan brought a catchy and danceable song. What makes me laugh is to sprinkle Senhit honey because you are already aware that it will not be a danger.

I still smile when I think that if another singer or group had brought a song like ours, an atmosphere of irrepressible joy would have erupted. Actually, much less is enough ... a circle dance on oneself or a hand mimicking the crest of a rooster over the head and ... "Oh my God! It's so ... bold!" Haha. Even if Italy brought Achille Lauro to the ESC there would be some Eurofans ready to call him "Old Fashioned", "melodic" or invest him with phrases like "It's not my cup of tea" or be overtaken by a singer who sings while scratching his fingers buttocks (an example was last year where some eurofans struggled to find a better melody than ours: from Bulgaria to Switzerland everyone seemed to be better than our singer haha).

We repeat, we will honor the competition, perform and have fun. We are not the real danger. That's okay with us because some of you are happy and we're okay with it because we can't add more to the costs of our festival (which are around 20 to 30 million - much more expensive than organizing an ESC). Of course ... this year we have saved money because of Covid ... and this is the real danger ... that Italy is plotting something? Haha.

I'm sorry, that's the way I am, I love to say things as they are because, unlike the haters, I have nothing to lose. Here it takes bitter blood to win a music festival when the world falls apart!

I greet the "keyboard lions" by telling you an Roman saying that my grandmother used to repeat "Se l'invidia fosse quallera sarebbero tutti quallerosi". I translate better "If envy were a plague we would all be plagued"

Se vuoi fermarmi ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché sono fuori di testa ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa ma diversi da loro

"Keyboard lions" translate these few words, please

 

[Preuss]

Rock isn't my genre, so naturally I don't like this, but I can see the quality and that Italy once again might do really well

 

[Mainshow]

I absolutely agree with you.
I would have preferred to have a 0 because you don't like it at all.

That is reserved for songs I truly hate with every inch of my body, b***e included, like , for example

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Rock isn't my genre, so naturally I don't like this, but I can see the quality and that Italy once again might do really well

Thanks Preuss. Your balanced words are a balm for the heart

 

[Iker]

Add 20 years and you have my age ...

I thought you were younger! That was my impression, you probably have a youthful personality I feel in real life but it should not confused with infantile as you never come across as such, so good for you.

 

[Iker]

I hadn't thought about doing the math!

Indeed, televoting only held a 25% weight.

On Friday, Ermal had (5.5969 - 8.4830 * 0.25) / 0.75 % = 4.6349% of the total vote.
Max Gazzè, who was 14th on Friday, had (3.1641 - 0.6591 * 0.25) / 0.75% = 3.9991% of the total vote.
Extraliscio in 13th had 4.0392%: it was really a matter of the top half of the standings being separated by 0.6% votes.
Fedez and Francesca were 17th at 3.8084% (just barely below-average!), Madame was 18th at 3.7561%.
Fasma 19th at 3.6523%, Ghemon 20th at 3.6328%. The top 20 was separated by just 1%, which is almost as much as the gap between Ghemon and Aiello (last at 2,8072%). Basically there were 20 entries in it for the win.

Doing the same math on last year's results (23 entries, average at 4,74%), Diodato led on Friday with a staggering 8,92%, followed by Gabbani at 6,87%, Le Vibrazioni at 5,97%, Pinguini at 5,89%, Pelù at 5,73%.Tosca at 5,43%, and Elodie at 4,80% (on 7th place but just barely "above average" and basically out of contention for the podium). This pretty much meant two thirds of the podium were set in stone by Friday, with only three (maybe four?) entries in contention for the third spot.

Me trying to make sense out of San Remo as a newbie is like this:

 

[stephanos13]

Maneskin performance in the final for your viewing pleasure.

Maneskin cantano 'Zitti e buoni'