Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[EscGeek]

#40 on yt trending slovenia right now

 

[Stashio833]

Yes has been regularly bringing quality to the contest and came close to winning a couple of times, the closest in 2015. But that 'boys band opera' entry wasn't my thing, but still I could tell that it was well-crafted.

Il Volo has actually been my favorite out of modern day Italy. I still think they should have won over Sweden. We'll see where Måneskin takes them this year!

 

[BernadetteCydonia]

In June 2020, AWS frontman Örs Siklósi was diagnosed with leukemia, which will lead to his death on the night of February 5-6, 2021, at the age of 29. did you know that?

yes </3 it's already been a month since he died, and on the day he was announced dead, The Roop managed to (unsurprisingly) win their NF again and outbalanced my day into being... sort of lukewarm for all the reasons possible.

That said, the alternative rock of AWS and Maneskin have some differences. The AWS are pure energy while the Maneskins are more "dirty". They are both great bands but not very similar to each other.

Yeah I know, it's just the atmosphere I felt all overall for the evenings, lmao. Difference is that I supported Willie's song more than Leander Kills's...

I appreciate your analysis. I really enjoyed reading it Anyway, we managed to surprise you. Rock won in Sanremo!

Awwww thanks. And yeah you certainly did, hahahhahah

 

[crashworld]

Anyway, here is the detailed results for the 5th night (go to pg 7-9):

http://www.rai.it/dl/doc/2021/03/07/1615117077435_RISULATO%20VOTAZIONI%20SANREMO%202021.pdf

I am still confused on the percentage weightage for each night.
How is it possible that Francesca & Fedez top the scoreboard on the 5th night after the results from 1st to 5th nights are combined when they are consistently not scoring the top 5 results for the first 4 nights.
This makes me think the televote holds a higher weightage. Or the scores across all the artists are really close together for the 1st to 4th nights.

 

[Iker]

Il Volo has actually been my favorite out of modern day Italy. I still think they should have won over Sweden. We'll see where Måneskin takes them this year!

I would like it winning over Mans too, but it has only occured to me some time after the contest has concluded.

 

[Iker]

Ehm Soldi being bad? It was one of the freshest and most contemporary entries we've had in modern ESC... (different taste aside)

I do agree on Grande Amore though, which was dreadfully dated and will never understand the love for it...

It's funny though because I was also one of those who was critical of Sanremo being dated and Italy favorized, but in the past years they won me over. It doesn't mean that I've always ranked Italy the highest, but I've respected most of what they brought to ESC lately so I'm not mad... it's nice to see one of the "big" countries actually give a sh*t as well.

Yeah, Germany and particularly UK - learn! They are the masters of not giving shit.

 

[mauve]

Damiano David is so hot

Oh my god yes. I am turning 14 again and want to hang posters onto my wall.

 

[Iker]

Oh my god yes. I am turning 14 again and want to hang posters onto my wall.

Now I realised I haven't had any posters with artists / bands over my bed in my life? What is wrong with me. How come?!When I was a teenager / kid I was a big fan of rock and metal bands like: Queens of The Stone Age, Within Temptation, Polish band Myslovitz etc.

 

[mauve]

Now I realise I haven't had any posters with artists / bands over my bed in my life? What is wrong with me?!

You haven't? I had two of my four walls with all kins of musicians - and musicians only ... and rockers only with loooong hair. I was actually the only person in my class who listened to hard rock and I felt lonely since I couldn't talk with anyone about my music taste. So I actually started searching for penpals. But ... offtopic.

 

[midnightsun]

When I was 14 I had posters of Morten Harket and David Hasselhoff next to a very long haired Bon Jovi on my walls. You can have the best of all worlds.

 

[Geborgenheit]

Italians have that agressive style. But where is the culmination in the song? Not enough.

 

[Iker]

You haven't? I had two of my four walls with all kins of musicians - and musicians only ... and rockers only with loooong hair. I was actually the only person in my class who listened to hard rock and I felt lonely since I couldn't talk with anyone about my music taste. So I actually started searching for penpals. But ... offtopic.

I am probably much younger than you, only 27.

 

[luli]

Is Italy finally able to win? I feel like they're favourites every other year but never actually win.

Well said. The same thoughts are in my head for last few years.

 

[mauve]

When I was 14 I had posters of Morten Harket and David Hasselhoff next to a very long haired Bon Jovi on my walls. You can have the best of all worlds.

Morten! My passion for aha started much, much later. I didn't like it much when I was 14. But they have great songs, I rather like the ones that are not known.

 

[mauve]

I am probably much younger than you, only 27.

Add 20 years and you have my age ...

 

[HayashiM]

Anyway, here is the detailed results for the 5th night (go to pg 7-9):

http://www.rai.it/dl/doc/2021/03/07/1615117077435_RISULATO%20VOTAZIONI%20SANREMO%202021.pdf

I am still confused on the percentage weightage for each night.
How is it possible that Francesca & Fedez top the scoreboard on the 5th night after the results from 1st to 5th nights are combined when they are consistently not scoring the top 5 results for the first 4 nights.
This makes me think the televote holds a higher weightage. Or the scores across all the artists are really close together for the 1st to 4th nights.

It must've truly been extremely close before the 5th night among pretty much everyone.
Proof lies with Ermal. What we know is that he'd been first before the televote. He got 8.5% in televote but still his final average is 5.6% - so the televote actually improved his average. If we assume the smallest weight of televote possible - 25% - , we can calculate Ermal's highest % pre 5th night possible as (5.6 x 4 - 8.5) / 3 = 4.63% The larger the weight of the televote, the lower is Ermal's average pre 5th night. In any case, we know Ermal did not have more than 4.63% before the final night and it was still enough to be 1st.

How crazy is this? The average in a pool of 26 entries is 100 / 26 = 3.85%. If even the best cannot get more than 4.63%... It's all extremely close, much closer than I'd thought. If the televote weighed more (like 1/3), the results pre 5th night would've had to be actually even closer (with Ermal's average pre-5th night of 4.16% still being enough for a 1st place, and the overall average still at 3.85% - so, I believe the televote truly only holds a 1/4 weight for the final ranking before we enter the top 3 play, where its weight becomes 1/3).

 

[nudiecrudi]

I don't care if italy will be top 10, win or be last. I'm not worried at all about any kind of ranking.
I'm sure that Maneskin will give everything they have in Rotterdam and offer to us an incredible spectacle.
You may not like a genre or a style, and that's ok (i don't like all the slut dance songs and we have some this year), but undoubtedly Maneskin offer a high quality product. They kick all the boxes.
If we leave aside all the delusions because our preferred one didn't win, Irama Annalisa, FM, ect ect and concentrate our attention toward this song I thing we will easily understand that they gave an incredible but credible performance last night.
Believe me guys winning Sanremo isn't easy at all. You have to pass through so many judging levels and these level sometimes seem so discrepant but at the end the best song comes through.
Just an example. Fedez and Francesca didn't convince two judging levels but over won with one of them. It was not enough. Viceversa Ermal Meta, but at the end Maneskin were the ones who convinced mostly all the juries, over winning with the televote without being favorites.
Just to end my thoughts. What happened wasn't casually. Maneskin s win was deserved completely.

 

[HayashiM]

So, it's probably
Demojury 1. Ermal, 2. F&F, 3. Maneskin
Press 1. Maneskin, 2. Ermal, 3. F&F
Televote 1. F&F, 2. Maneskin, 3. Ermal

Every % could play a role now, impossible to predict but my guess is Maneskin.

I think I nailed it Though I am surprised Ermal actually did come 3rd in the televote which saved him for the top 3, I'd thought he had more of a cushion and did not need to do as well with the televote.

These deduced rankings also remained valid for most of the final top 3 vote, with the sole exception of Maneskin collecting a very huge chunk of new televote from eliminated entries, while F&F and Ermal mostly held onto their existing base. Since the press and demoscopic juries still remained super close awarding everyone between 30 and 35%, Maneskin's victory became inevitable.

 

[novitopoli]

Anyway, here is the detailed results for the 5th night (go to pg 7-9):

http://www.rai.it/dl/doc/2021/03/07/1615117077435_RISULATO%20VOTAZIONI%20SANREMO%202021.pdf

I am still confused on the percentage weightage for each night.
How is it possible that Francesca & Fedez top the scoreboard on the 5th night after the results from 1st to 5th nights are combined when they are consistently not scoring the top 5 results for the first 4 nights.
This makes me think the televote holds a higher weightage. Or the scores across all the artists are really close together for the 1st to 4th nights.

I am gutted they didn't put out the exact percentages for the first 4 nights, but to be fair Amadeus mentioned in passing on multiple occasions how the results up to Friday were surprisingly close (the Friday top 10 and the Thursday top 17 being divided by half a percentage point). In comparison, televoting results were much more clear-cut, hence the Saturday results playing such a huge part in the overall standings (pretty much a 1:1 match with the exception of Coma_Cose, who were dragged down by their bombed performance on Thursday).

This can be seen in the top 3 results as well: huge Maneskin lead in televoting, while the other 2 juries were closer than they had ever been (34% Ermal, 33% Maneskin, 33% F&F for the demoscopic jury, 35% Maneskin, 35% Ermal, 30% F&F for the press). And I find this a very good thing for two reasons:
1. The demoscopic jury is meant to be a statistically representative sample of Italian music listeners. Their results being so close can be interpreted as all kinds of different genres and music tasted being equally covereded in this year's Sanremo lineup.
2. No tactical voting by the press as had been done in other years.

While I was rooting for Colapesce-Dimartino to win as I loved their song, I am also glad Maneskin are going to Rotterdam as they were by far my favorite among the final top 3. I found Ermal's song average and forgettable and Fedez and Francesca's live performance was disappointing to say the least. Fedez at times really did look, and sound, like he had much more important stuff to care about off stage (which is also understandable given his personal situation these days), while Francesca's vocals were also nowhere as neat as they were in 2016 IMHO.

Unpopular opinion ahead: I am also glad Irama didn't win. Nothing against him, and the song wasn't bad either, but it just wouldn't have felt right to see someone win Sanremo without actually performing on stage - even if not themselves "at fault", and changing the rules on the fly (in this case, those concerning quarantined artists unable to perform being DSQ'ed) is NEVER a good thing and sets a dangerous precedent.

Also, looks like Willie Peyote was a particularly sore loser. Which doesn't surprise when you take into account how his entry was the musical version of a Facebook comments section.

 

[Grinch]

12 pts!
Finally another song (after Ireland) which I look forward to see in May. Thanks Italy for always bringing quality to this contest.
I was seriously considering skipping ESC this year.