Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

I read people commenting on a recent interview they gave. Apparently, Damiano said that they'd start focusing more on English lyrics.

Hope they don't abandon the Italian altogether. It wouldn't make sense. They don't need English written songs for people to connect with them, as shown in the past weeks. Actually, it makes them stand out.

I rather enjoy their Italian songs much more. 'I wanna be your slave' is a great banger, but the lyrics per say... not so much

Damiano writes much more meaningful stuff in his mother language. Obviously. Really hope they don't feel pushed to go full English.

I agree and disagree.

If you watch some reactions to their songs, I remember also somebody posting here that Britt vocal coach who reacts to the ESC every year, you can notice that there is a significant portion of viewers having problem with a language barrier.

The vocal coach I mentioned couldn't pass the barrier even with translation as she stumbled upon a very bad google translate and she concluded that the lyrics were silly. And I transpose her impression in a dilluted form.

I also notice that people who heard Coraline with the english subs were almost crying. But without the subs they would never get the right impression of the song. It would most likely be just a good song for them, not thrilling nor moving.

In the end, people get tired if they have to go google translate of every song.

And above all - people want to sing the songs they love !!!! Imagine an American singing "niente da aggiungere" Impossible. It is hard even for us Slavs who have a letter "Đ" in our alphabet.

So if they want to be an international band, they have to have more songs in English. That doesn't mean they would have to leave Italian completely, but rather would have to have 2 different strategies in selection of songs for international market and Italian market.

The real issue here that makes all of us love more Italian songs than the English ones consists of 2 different factor:

1. The first album having more English songs is in general less thrilling than the second, so these English songs are pretty standard as Italian songs.

2. On second album the quality of writing is quite lower in English songs, than Italian.

It is obvious that Damiano still doesn't think nor does he operationalize emotions in a foreign language (both songs are basically I wanna this and I wanna that).

He has to work on that.

And it is actually quite funny, because it is a psychology fact that our ideas are more honest, straightforward and objective when we communicate them in a foreign language to ourselves.

Try once drinking and speaking to yourself in a foreign language when you are alone. The most interesting stuff you will hear coming from your mouth.

P.S. an honest and well-intentioned critic to Italians in general. IDK what is your problem with foreign languages or English, it is not like you are at the diplomatic war with the rest of the World on the issue of "official international language", as France is. Simply learn some English. I don't get why is it so hard there.

Btw came to share a great video.

It is never a bad idea to have several, multiplied Maneskins, in same screen.

 

[Amethyst]

I agree and disagree.

If you watch some reactions to their songs, I remember also somebody posting here that Britt vocal coach who reacts to the ESC every year, you can notice that there is a significant portion of viewers having problem with a language barrier.

The vocal coach I mentioned couldn't pass the barrier even with translation as she stumbled upon a very bad google translate and she concluded that the lyrics were silly. And I transpose her impression in a dilluted form.

I also notice that people who heard Coraline with the english subs were almost crying. But without the subs they would never get the right impression of the song. It would most likely be just a good song for them, not thrilling nor moving.

In the end, people get tired if they have to go google translate of every song.

And above all - people want to sing the songs they love !!!! Imagine an American singing "niente da aggiungere" Impossible. It is hard even for us Slavs who have a letter "Đ" in our alphabet.

So if they want to be an international band, they have to have more songs in English. That doesn't mean they would have to leave Italian completely, but rather would have to have 2 different strategies in selection of songs for international market and Italian market.

This.

I really don't understand the reaction after the interview tbh. What did they expect?

I lost count of all the videos I saw and posts I read where people missed the beauty of the lyrics and I remember when a lot of those that now are crazy about them didn't even try to read or know what Zitti e Buoni was about and relegated it to 'noise without meaning' at the first word they didn't understand. I mean, just look at the different response iwbys got compared to ZeB since it was easier for a lot of people to connect with the song from a language POV. So no, it's very very naive to think they could keep and extend their fanbase without having more songs in english.

Regarding the quality of the lyrics I'm not concerned. So far they used english purposefully for the more 'fun' and 'naughty' songs, leaving the 'canzoni d'autore' in italian (where the bulk -if not totality- of their public was) but I have no doubts in Damiano's abilities to convey the same kind of power and depth in another language if he wants to, his writing style ( the use of images , metaphors etc) can translate well.

P.S. an honest and well-intentioned critic to Italians in general. IDK what is your problem with foreign languages or English, it is not like you are at the diplomatic war with the rest of the World on the issue of "official international language", as France is. Simply learn some English. I don't get why is it so hard there.

I believe, without going too much into details, the way it was (and in some areas still is) taught in school ( starting too late, not much focus on pronunciation/speech and with a teacher that usually is not a native language teacher) is the main reason so many italian have problems ( but now it's getting better) and then there is the fact that there's not enough exposure to the language on a daily basis - the young generation is more into it thanks to the internet etc. but still, for example, movies are dubbed and people simply don't feel the need to learn it. It's basically - wrongly- seen as a secondary thing.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Why don't Italians want to sing in English?

What Amethyst wrote is correct but generalizing. The real problem that makes Italian artists to sing in English is only one: the accent. Our accent is very hard and difficult to modulate. Our songs, therefore, would at times be filled with an exotic charm and at times comical. The peoples of southern Europe have this problem, a problem that for the Nordic countries is reduced: the linguistic distance is shorter.

However ... there is a saying "You don't change a winning team". Why should we stop singing in Italian? Eurofans love to listen to our language and we are proud to show a part of our culture. Many nations are starting to follow our example and to be successful. ESC = national languages and musical experimentation. No the imposition of English and no "industrial songs".

 

[HayashiM]

For ESC, Italy should absolutely keep its entries in Italian. It certainly doesn't stop you from reaching the top 10 on a regular basis (and it's super sexy as well).

Måneskin on the other hand... Usually I'd say the italophone market is big enough so it would've been perfectly ok to just concentrate on that...
...however I would really love for Eurovision to give us another global superstar established household name that's not really there just for the bubble. With all respect to Duncan's 1.000.000.000 streams of Arcade, I believe Måneskin could be on their way to come even closer. If reaching that means more concentration on English from now on - so be it.

 

[hijirio]

That said ... does anyone know where the haters have gone? I ask for a friend

What you just said is the proof itself that we are not haters.
Italy won, yes, the song is not my cup of tea, yes, but instead of sobbing we are accepting it and moving on, looking forward to Eurovision in Italy next year and wishing the best for Maneskin. I am actually quite happy for their success across Europe, it always makes me proud to see ESC alumni build up an international career. I am happy to see my friends who aren't ESC fans share Maneskin on their instastory.

I know you love to provoke and fuel up the fights, but I ain't gonna fall for that. I already said what I think about the song, no need to repeat it over and over and spoil the enjoyment of the victory. Italy won fair and square, periodt. #bye

 

[Amethyst]

Why don't Italians want to sing in English?

What Amethyst wrote is correct but generalizing. The real problem that makes Italian artists to sing in English is only one: the accent. Our accent is very hard and difficult to modulate. Our songs, therefore, would at times be filled with an exotic charm and at times comical. The peoples of southern Europe have this problem, a problem that for the Nordic countries is reduced: the linguistic distance is shorter.

However ... there is a saying "You don't change a winning team". Why should we stop singing in Italian? Eurofans love to listen to our language and we are proud to show a part of our culture. Many nations are starting to follow our example and to be successful. ESC = national languages and musical experimentation. No the imposition of English and no "industrial songs".

That can be easily resolved/reduced with a good teacher. As I pointed out, specifying that the issue is way more complex, part of the problem lies in the way it is(was) taught. The accent thing at the end is an excuse - I mean you can hear Tarja Turunen's finnish accent in the early Nightwish albums (and it was even thicker live), Lordi had an english vocal coach ...it's not just a southern thing ... it's more about the approach. We , in most cases, don't even try - "I don't care if I can't pronunce the th sound correctly if they can understand me anyway" it's the kind of mentality we have. But things are changing fortunately and Måneskin are an example.

No one is saying we should stop singing in italian, tho. It's more about the future of the band outside the bubble where realistically songs in english can be a 'battering ram' - just like what happened with iwbys (more than Z&B where the performance was key to its success) being what brought not esc fan to appreciate and start listen songs like Coraline and their music in general.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

For ESC, Italy should absolutely keep its entries in Italian. It certainly doesn't stop you from reaching the top 10 on a regular basis (and it's super sexy as well).

Måneskin on the other hand... Usually I'd say the italophone market is big enough so it would've been perfectly ok to just concentrate on that...
...however I would really love for Eurovision to give us another global superstar established household name that's not really there just for the bubble. With all respect to Duncan's 1.000.000.000 streams of Arcade, I believe Måneskin could be on their way to come even closer. If reaching that means more concentration on English from now on - so be it.

I agree with what you write, HayashiM. Honestly, even if the Italian market is quite large, if our singers can make themselves known and appreciated abroad, we are very pleased. There are not a few Italian singers who have looked beyond our border: Laura Pausini (she turned to Latin music and, to a lesser extent, she collaborated with the United States), Eros Ramazzotti (compared to Pausini she collaborated a little more with the United States - to remember the duet with Anastacia -, he collaborated with the South American musical movement and is often on tour in Russia), Adelmo "Zucchero" Fornaciari (he decided to collaborate with the international Blues movement, he collaborated with Joe Cocker, Sting etc ...), Al Bano (his favorite destination is Russia), Il Volo (it's one of our "manifesto groups" that go around the world to spread Italian music - especially they travel between the United States and South America) and I could go on ... We are very proud to present our music abroad. It is a metropolitan legend that we are only interested in the Italian market.

Regarding the ESC, the only ones to have come out of the "bubble" were ABBA. They suffered a lot to take off the nickname "Those from the Waterloo song". The "bubble" is difficult to break. The Maneskin have this potential. They can do it. Thanks to their talent? Not only that, HayashiM (although it is true that Damiano is a "rare gem"). I believe that the Maneskins have "come into play at the right time". Rock music, as much as it is loved, has now sunk into a "secondary genre". The Maneskin can, by using a Pop Rock suitable for everyone, bring light to the Rock. Did you not realize that now every eurofans, thinking about the Maneskin, almost obsessively repeat "Rock will never die!"? This is proof of my words. If this happens, if the Maneskins break the "bubble", the ESC will make an important leap forward and can only continue to grow and become more competitive.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

What you just said is the proof itself that we are not haters.
Italy won, yes, the song is not my cup of tea, yes, but instead of sobbing we are accepting it and moving on, looking forward to Eurovision in Italy next year and wishing the best for Maneskin. I am actually quite happy for their success across Europe, it always makes me proud to see ESC alumni build up an international career. I am happy to see my friends who aren't ESC fans share Maneskin on their instastory.

I know you love to provoke and fuel up the fights, but I ain't gonna fall for that. I already said what I think about the song, no need to repeat it over and over and spoil the enjoyment of the victory. Italy won fair and square, periodt. #bye

I don't like feeding fights. It wasn't me who said heavy and offensive words. I just stimulate what people keep hidden in their hearts. My irony or my arguments with a lot of supporting data are a "poison" for falsehood. Sooner or later, people's true disposition will come out. It is a sort of "passive flame", a "polite and "within the rules flame" that no administrator can condemn as it does not present any offense or direct provocation.

Do you want proof that your disposition has come out once again after reading my words? Your current answer. I wasn't talking about you but in general. But you felt concerned. You have longed to write to me, tell me yours and show others that you are "sporty". This is called "having a straw tail". You are aware of what you have said and with whom you have "allied" to follow your derogatory goal. There is a forum full of your words to prove it (unless you edit your every message).

EscTurkey, I don't hate you. If Turkey goes back to ESC 2022 and wins, I'm happy. Between the two, the one who tried to open a dialogue, it was always me. Then, I realized that some people's hearts are closed regardless and therefore I just be myself and that's it. I'll give you some advice in Italian. "Un bel tacer non fu mai scritto". Translate it. Otherwise you will get bogged down again in words that, like quicksand, will make you sink ... again.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

That can be easily resolved/reduced with a good teacher. As I pointed out, specifying that the issue is way more complex, part of the problem lies in the way it is(was) taught. The accent thing at the end is an excuse - I mean you can hear Tarja Turunen's finnish accent in the early Nightwish albums (and it was even thicker live), Lordi had an english vocal coach ...it's not just a southern thing ... it's more about the approach. We , in most cases, don't even try - "I don't care if I can't pronunce the th sound correctly if they can understand me anyway" it's the kind of mentality we have. But things are changing fortunately and Måneskin are an example.

No one is saying we should stop singing in italian, tho. It's more about the future of the band outside the bubble where realistically songs in english can be a 'battering ram' - just like what happened with iwbys (more than Z&B where the performance was key to its success) being what brought not esc fan to appreciate and start listen songs like Coraline and their music in general.

I agree. It takes organized teaching. A programming. The Maneskin have opened the door. Let's see what happens.

For me, songs in Italian must always be brought to the ESC but, if I were the record company, I would expect the band or single singer to have songs in English (sung well). In the first case, we show our culture, in the second, our artists have the material to express themselves and be understood even abroad.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

This.

I really don't understand the reaction after the interview tbh. What did they expect?

I lost count of all the videos I saw and posts I read where people missed the beauty of the lyrics and I remember when a lot of those that now are crazy about them didn't even try to read or know what Zitti e Buoni was about and relegated it to 'noise without meaning' at the first word they didn't understand. I mean, just look at the different response iwbys got compared to ZeB since it was easier for a lot of people to connect with the song from a language POV. So no, it's very very naive to think they could keep and extend their fanbase without having more songs in english.

Regarding the quality of the lyrics I'm not concerned. So far they used english purposefully for the more 'fun' and 'naughty' songs, leaving the 'canzoni d'autore' in italian (where the bulk -if not totality- of their public was) but I have no doubts in Damiano's abilities to convey the same kind of power and depth in another language if he wants to, his writing style ( the use of images , metaphors etc) can translate well.



I believe, without going too much into details, the way it was (and in some areas still is) taught in school ( starting too late, not much focus on pronunciation/speech and with a teacher that usually is not a native language teacher) is the main reason so many italian have problems ( but now it's getting better) and then there is the fact that there's not enough exposure to the language on a daily basis - the young generation is more into it thanks to the internet etc. but still, for example, movies are dubbed and people simply don't feel the need to learn it. It's basically - wrongly- seen as a secondary thing.

Yeah, the educational system is very important.

In the Balkans we learn English from kindergarten and then the 2nd language, mostly German and Italian (due to our historical connections with Austria and Italy) from the age of 10.

Also, I wanted to pursue my Master in Italy, but apart from the EUI in Florence and Bocconi in Milan, it was very hard to find a fully English speaking study programme in Italy. And you are the country which invented the very first university in an universal language!

However, dubbing! This! Very important factor.

We don't dub movies and TV series, not even in cinemas, so we hear English and read translation of it from early age. It is impossible not to "get it in our ears".

How important that is can be explained by two facts:

1. When Televisa Presenta TV series came to our TV, Spanish had become the language more popular than German and Italian in foreign languages schools.

2. When Turkish TV series started airing here, Turkish had become the 5th most popular language here (and Istanbul no. 1. tourist destination for the Balkans).

Also, as we are very open to international music, so different languages are always present on our radio.

@H.P. Lovecraft - accent should not be a problem. Actually, English with Italian accent was accepted throughout popular cultures all around World thankfully to the legendary movies such as Godfather or Scarface.

And is there a person on this World who doesn't find Shakira's English with Spanish accent to be sexy as a bomb??

 

[HayashiM]

I agree with what you write, HayashiM. Honestly, even if the Italian market is quite large, if our singers can make themselves known and appreciated abroad, we are very pleased. There are not a few Italian singers who have looked beyond our border: Laura Pausini (she turned to Latin music and, to a lesser extent, she collaborated with the United States), Eros Ramazzotti (compared to Pausini she collaborated a little more with the United States - to remember the duet with Anastacia -, he collaborated with the South American musical movement and is often on tour in Russia), Adelmo "Zucchero" Fornaciari (he decided to collaborate with the international Blues movement, he collaborated with Joe Cocker, Sting etc ...), Al Bano (his favorite destination is Russia), Il Volo (it's one of our "manifesto groups" that go around the world to spread Italian music - especially they travel between the United States and South America) and I could go on ... We are very proud to present our music abroad. It is a metropolitan legend that we are only interested in the Italian market.

Regarding the ESC, the only ones to have come out of the "bubble" were ABBA. They suffered a lot to take off the nickname "Those from the Waterloo song". The "bubble" is difficult to break. The Maneskin have this potential. They can do it. Thanks to their talent? Not only that, HayashiM (although it is true that Damiano is a "rare gem"). I believe that the Maneskins have "come into play at the right time". Rock music, as much as it is loved, has now sunk into a "secondary genre". The Maneskin can, by using a Pop Rock suitable for everyone, bring light to the Rock. Did you not realize that now every eurofans, thinking about the Maneskin, almost obsessively repeat "Rock will never die!"? This is proof of my words. If this happens, if the Maneskins break the "bubble", the ESC will make an important leap forward and can only continue to grow and become more competitive.

Thank you for the list, there are some names I didn't know and shall have a closer look at

I'd say besides ABBA, there's also Céline Dion... As for "bursting the bubble", I can't tell for ABBA, I wasn't alive yet, but I think they owe some part of the superstar brand to very successful marketing and being famous in the Eastern bloc (which didn't really care about Eurovision at the time, so at least in this area there wasn't as much bubble to break away from). With both ABBA and Céline, it had/has been about consistency (many very well known songs throughout the years) and a truly global (or at least a multi-continental) fame. I don't say Måneskin will go as far, but they certainly have a good shot, so let's cross our fingers

 

[b4ld3r]

Thank you for the list, there are some names I didn't know and shall have a closer look at

I'd say besides ABBA, there's also Céline Dion... As for "bursting the bubble", I can't tell for ABBA, I wasn't alive yet, but I think they owe some part of the superstar brand to very successful marketing and being famous in the Eastern bloc (which didn't really care about Eurovision at the time, so at least in this area there wasn't as much bubble to break away from). With both ABBA and Céline, it had/has been about consistency (many very well known songs throughout the years) and a truly global (or at least a multi-continental) fame. I don't say Måneskin will go as far, but they certainly have a good shot, so let's cross our fingers

Another big part was the fact that they had a great producer, Stikkan Andersson, who knew how to take advantage how their ESC win and launch them internationally. Hopefully Måneskin similarly get the help they need!

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Marta Donà on Instagram: "Abbiamo trascorso 4 anni indimenticabili pieni di sogni da esaudire e di progetti realizzati. Io vi ho portato fino a qui. Da adesso in poi avete deciso di proseguire senza di me. Ho il cuore spezzato ma vi auguro il meglio

21K likes, 1,593 comments - martalatarma on June 4, 2021: "Abbiamo trascorso 4 anni indimenticabili pieni di sogni da esaudire e di progetti realizzati. Io vi ho portato fino a qui. Da adesso in poi avete deciso di proseguire senza di me. Ho il cuore spezzato ma vi auguro il meglio dalla vita...

www.instagram.com

A change of manager? Marta said they decided to proceed without her. Do we know the reason thereto? Italian friends?

 

[lacrymea]

Marta Donà on Instagram: "Abbiamo trascorso 4 anni indimenticabili pieni di sogni da esaudire e di progetti realizzati. Io vi ho portato fino a qui. Da adesso in poi avete deciso di proseguire senza di me. Ho il cuore spezzato ma vi auguro il meglio

21K likes, 1,593 comments - martalatarma on June 4, 2021: "Abbiamo trascorso 4 anni indimenticabili pieni di sogni da esaudire e di progetti realizzati. Io vi ho portato fino a qui. Da adesso in poi avete deciso di proseguire senza di me. Ho il cuore spezzato ma vi auguro il meglio dalla vita...

www.instagram.com

A change of manager? Marta said they decided to proceed without her. Do we know the reason thereto? Italian friends?

Ouch. That's a harsh goodbye message

Maybe they need to take a step further, things have changed. Don't know the reasons, but I don't like this sort of rambling on social media without saying much about it, yet leaving enough room to negative speculation.

 

[Amethyst]

Marta Donà on Instagram: "Abbiamo trascorso 4 anni indimenticabili pieni di sogni da esaudire e di progetti realizzati. Io vi ho portato fino a qui. Da adesso in poi avete deciso di proseguire senza di me. Ho il cuore spezzato ma vi auguro il meglio

21K likes, 1,593 comments - martalatarma on June 4, 2021: "Abbiamo trascorso 4 anni indimenticabili pieni di sogni da esaudire e di progetti realizzati. Io vi ho portato fino a qui. Da adesso in poi avete deciso di proseguire senza di me. Ho il cuore spezzato ma vi auguro il meglio dalla vita...

www.instagram.com

A change of manager? Marta said they decided to proceed without her. Do we know the reason thereto? Italian friends?

They haven't commented yet but I can see them realizing that they need someone with more experience on an international level...

The only thing I can say is: if it's not a prank by Le Iene , they made the right choice. She's not handling it well and definitely not professionally

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

What you just said is the proof itself that we are not haters.
Italy won, yes, the song is not my cup of tea, yes, but instead of sobbing we are accepting it and moving on, looking forward to Eurovision in Italy next year and wishing the best for Maneskin. I am actually quite happy for their success across Europe, it always makes me proud to see ESC alumni build up an international career. I am happy to see my friends who aren't ESC fans share Maneskin on their instastory.

I know you love to provoke and fuel up the fights, but I ain't gonna fall for that. I already said what I think about the song, no need to repeat it over and over and spoil the enjoyment of the victory. Italy won fair and square, periodt. #bye

Ooooh how did I miss this!

Let me remind you of what you did on this thread:

1. You had intentionally spread false information on cocaine use immediately after the Grand Final on this thread

2. In the following days you came here, you tagged several Turkish speaking members of the forum who have never been on this thread, and posted a twitter video from a Turkish movie where an actor impersonating a crazy person calls everybody crazy.

You have intentionally mocked with others of your group the users here calling us all crazy. A typical group mob.

The only stupid thing to overlook was not knowing that I speak Turkish.

You have been only lucky that I didn't translate your message and the meaning to it to the Italians and others here, otherwise you would have needed whole Adana to defend you.

Now you are per definitionem a hater and a troller. And you still preach here who is a hater??? Wow now that's some moral.

Also, haters are easily recognizable, even from the subcontext and despite not being outspoken. For instance, like here...

Ciao bella. Sus artık.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Now, which entries got the most of televotes (% per whole possible score). There are only 2 Italian entries in top 10.

Maneskin being 8th with almost 70% of the possible scores surpassing Loreen. And they really had some competitors because 2 more 2021 entries are on this list.

But no.1. is also an Italian entry with almost 80% of total possible scores. Waiting for Italian friends to add a #RobberyOfThe21stCentury

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Now, which entries got the most of televotes (% per whole possible score). There are only 2 Italian entries in top 10.

Maneskin being 8th with almost 70% of the possible scores surpassing Loreen. And they really had some competitors because 2 more 2021 entries are on this list.

But no.1. is also an Italian entry with almost 80% of total possible scores. Waiting for Italian friends to add a #RobberyOfThe21stCentury

Scattered considerations:

-) Russia has brought to the ESC many songs that have conquered televoting. However, he collected very little. If I'm not mistaken, Russia only achieved victory once.

-) The 2021 edition was the hardest-fought edition ever: Maneskin, Pravi and Shum in "Top 50". In this case all these singers deserve to be much higher in the rankings.

-) Måns' victory on Il Volo is "the great musical theft of musical history". The song "Grande Amore" is perfect on both the sung and stage performance side. An extraordinary "Classic Crossover".

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Scattered considerations:

-) Russia has brought to the ESC many songs that have conquered televoting. However, he collected very little. If I'm not mistaken, Russia only achieved victory once.

-) The 2021 edition was the hardest-fought edition ever: Maneskin, Pravi and Shum in "Top 50". In this case all these singers deserve to be much higher in the rankings.

-) Måns' victory on Il Volo is "the great musical theft of musical history". The song "Grande Amore" is perfect on both the sung and stage performance side. An extraordinary "Classic Crossover".

I voted Il Volo because of this.

Take a listen, wait to hear the refrain at least, and you will understand.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I voted Il Volo because of this.

Take a listen, wait to hear the refrain at least, and you will understand.

Jacques Houdek - My Friend (Croatia) Eurovision 2017 - Official Music Video

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This passage differs slightly from what we are saying but I took it as an example to make you understand that Croatia has a strong love for the classical tradition. Furthermore, I add that this culture and love is also the same in many nations of Eastern Europe that overlook the Adriatic Sea, to which the distant Russia is also added.

I understand why you voted for us and I thank you. Anyway ... "the system" has defeated us. No, no! The juries have never "hit" Italy! The Maneskin were also pushed to 4th position!

I hope that Bosnia and Herzegovina can compete in the ESC 2022 and bring a song like that of Dragojevic