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[escYOUnited]

 

[Mainshow]

It's blasphemy that Marco Mengoni is the "worst ranked" man in Eurovision when it comes to Italy and its comeback.

 

[AlekS]

I seriously don't believe they're capable of putting up a modern and international show, even though I've noticed they seem to care much more than they used to in 1991, when they last hosted.

It's not up to them. The production won't be given to Italy only. More than half of production is up to other European companies. The script & even the casting of the hosts was managed by the person appointed by the EBU. At least this is how it was with us.

Not to mention how much nervous and anxious I'd be thinking that Italy could potentially look bad and disorganized to Europe.

For heck's sake... we managed to host quite great Eurovision even despite war (thus financial problems back then) and propahandist media & certain ESC fansites crapping at us 24/7, mess with our government, certain people in the EBU sabotaging the whole thing, our broadcaster became public broadcaster (ie. changed its name, structure, management, ESC team). It looked ugly but we made it and damn it was worth it

 

[sucof]

I'm lowkey hoping Italy will never win again, considering RAI's hypotetical handling of the contest. I seriously don't believe they're capable of putting up a modern and international show, even though I've noticed they seem to care much more than they used to in 1991, when they last hosted. Not to mention how much nervous and anxious I'd be thinking that Italy could potentially look bad and disorganized to Europe.

I remember hearing that prior to 2017's Grand Final, given Gabbani's high chance of winning that year, heads of the EBU asked the Italian delegation if they would use the help of the Swedish team to organize the contest in case of victory. They said they'd arrange everything on their own, similarly to what Germany did in 2011.

Just out of curiosity, I want to list some questionable things RAI has done throughout history:

-They let Stevie Wonder flop in Sanremo 1969 (his song didn't qualify for the final)
-Same as above but with Lara Fabian in 2015
-When asked to, they refused to record Beatles's one and only Italian tour in 1965, stating that "Nobody will remember them in a couple of months"
-They forced Freddie Mercury to sing Radio Gaga in playback when they invited Queen as guest stars in Sanremo 1984. Freddie was upset about their decision, no wonder why you can see him intentionally taking the mic away from his mouth during the perfomance to clearly show the audience he was not singing live

Italy asking for help from sweden? but has the world turned upside down?
and as if America were asking Portugal to organize an event for them (with all the respect I have for Portugal!)
Rai, t the second European public tv as size and is the second or third contributor of the EBU asking for help from the small Swedish public tv ???
but what are you a troll? are you 12 years old?
But what are you saying? I have never seen a more self-defeating and pessimistic people like mine, a people that enjoys self-criticism alone in negative, never seen such a thing in the world even with the country and most disastrous and poor people on earth!
I have no words, I am ashamed for this person who speaks on behalf of my country!
sorry friends of the forum

 

[goldmayor]

But what are you saying? I have never seen a more self-defeating and pessimistic people like mine, a people that enjoys self-criticism alone in negative, never seen such a thing in the world even with the country and most disastrous and poor people on earth!

First of all, turn yourself down.
Secondly, I'm just trying to stay down-to-earth considering the type of shows that RAI usually offers to its audience: it seems they're stuck in the last century (camera work and staging often suck) and it's not a surprise that their channels are mostly watched by old people. Even Sanremo strongly needs a revival. I mean do you trust them? I don't, especially knowing the 1991's edition is uninamously considered the most poorly arranged ESC of all time. It's not about the country, it's about the broadcaster.

And just to clarify, the first sentence of my previous message was clearly a joke: I'd be the happiest person in the world if Italy won Eurovision again. Calling me out as pessimistic (in this case) is not that wrong, but I have valid reasons for being such.

Italy asking for help from sweden? but has the world turned upside down?
and as if America were asking Portugal to organize an event for them (with all the respect I have for Portugal!)
Rai, t the second European public tv as size and is the second or third contributor of the EBU asking for help from the small Swedish public tv ???

I actually said the opposite, read more carefully next time. In case of victory, Italy wouldn't use the help of the Swedish production team (not Swedish public tv), which assisted many countries in recent years. For instance, Ola Melzig was the stage designer for Lisbon 2018 and Kiev 2017 (on that occasion he was the head of production as well). Another example is Christer Björkman, who was the executive producer for Lisbon 2018. Even Düsseldorf 2011 had some Swedish managers involved in production (source: https://www.eurofestivalnews.com/20...eurovision-2018-svedesi-e-portoghesi-insieme/), so it's not a matter of pride as you're putting it, but partially relying on teams that showed expertise in organizing the contest in the past is a good step in order to set up a nice show.

For heck's sake... we managed to host quite great Eurovision even despite war (thus financial problems back then) and propahandist media & certain ESC fansites crapping at us 24/7, mess with our government, certain people in the EBU sabotaging the whole thing, our broadcaster became public broadcaster (ie. changed its name, structure, management, ESC team). It loked ugly but we made it and damn it was worth it

I know, you guys had so many obstacles we wouldn't have to deal with along the way. Well let's hope everything will be handled perfectly if we ever get to host Eurovision.

 

[sucof]

[MENTION=16793]goldmayor[/MENTION]


do you know that it is an Italian company that organizes almost all the opening and closing ceremonies of the Olympics?
you're just a hater of your country and you're looking for an excuse to be and make yourself noticed
You're just a teenager talking without knowing anything to get noticed in the forum!
Your first message as a forum participant was speaking ill of Italy and this is a proof that you are a professional hater, you have probably been banned on other forums and you came here to vent your frustrations, I have already reported
Being Italian I know people like you, you are in all the sites and blogs, people dissatisfied with everything, but I don't allow you to come here to speak ill of my country !!!!

Sanremo is not the Italian Eurovision, sanremo and a traditional festival that every year is watched by millions of people, and that you like or dislike, has lasted for decades because it is a classic format that fascinates both Italian viewers and foreign spectators. It's not a Swedish nightclub!
The Ariston theater is not a pavilion of a fair, and a provincial cinema of 2000 seats, as far as it can do as a director (last year almost 15 cameras were installed), the space is small and the shots cannot be like you!
I remind you (but you already know everything) that the same devices that use Eurovision, spider-cam and cuepilot have the best TV technology in the world are installed in the Ariston! I remind you that everything is in a provincial cinema!
But you, being a kid, expect the maximum without knowing and evaluating the reality of the facts. denigrating the work of RAI technicians (making comparisons with a 30-year-old Eurovision, another era, the prehistory of TV !!) that do a mammoth job to broadcast 4 hours live every night for 5 nights (the only case in the world ) a show seen by millions of people!
only the fact that you compare the organization of Sanremo with a hypothetical organization of Eurovision (two completely different television programs!), makes me understand that you are a 15-year-old troll.

 

[hunty73]

Italy asking for help from sweden? but has the world turned upside down?
and as if America were asking Portugal to organize an event for them (with all the respect I have for Portugal!)
Rai, t the second European public tv as size and is the second or third contributor of the EBU asking for help from the small Swedish public tv ???
but what are you a troll? are you 12 years old?
But what are you saying? I have never seen a more self-defeating and pessimistic people like mine, a people that enjoys self-criticism alone in negative, never seen such a thing in the world even with the country and most disastrous and poor people on earth!
I have no words, I am ashamed for this person who speaks on behalf of my country!
sorry friends of the forum

The production values at Sanremo are superb now.Its a small venue,yet the camera work,feel,sound,everything is magical.Italy would,and that should be WILL put on a great ESC.People get confused because Sanremo seems so long to them,but if you take out the other bits and simply see the songs one after another its as good as anywhere.

 

[missbones]

What a tune. And those lyrics. Didn't know she's with Warner now, hopefully she starts getting the recognition she deserves and gets invited to/wants to participate in Sanremo.

I really hope to see more women next year, but it's also boring when all they get to do are regular ballads (unless you're already a big name like Loredana) - men get to do rock, folk, rap, let's start giving the ladies a chance as well.

 

[elanyvx]

I want Annalisa for 2020 or Annalisa in a duet with other singer (boy or girl, both are good)

Example: from this Saturday ---> https://www.wittytv.it/amici/la-sigla-terza-puntata/

or example from Sanremo Festival 2018

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1963845173934036

 

[randajad]

I am waiting for her for so long I don’t even know if I want it anymore. Oh who am I kidding, she’s a godess

 

[Brandt]

I want Annalisa for 2020 or Annalisa in a duet with other singer (boy or girl, both are good)

Example: from this Saturday ---> https://www.wittytv.it/amici/la-sigla-terza-puntata/

or example from Sanremo Festival 2018

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1963845173934036

I love Annalisa. But Scintille was the only time she did a song to my liking for Sanremo. The rest was just so dull and boring to me. I love her when she is away from Sanremo. See Alice é il blu, Splende, Se avessi un cuore, Avocado toast and such.

 

[missbones]

I love Annalisa. But Scintille was the only time she did a song to my liking for Sanremo. The rest was just so dull and boring to me. I love her when she is away from Sanremo. See Alice é il blu, Splende, Se avessi un cuore, Avocado toast and such.

Honestly, same. I think my fave is Una Finestra Tra Le Stelle but i'm too afraid she's going to become one of those singers that are "only" defined by Sanremo, and i don't like that lately she takes part with songs that doesn't suit what she's currently doing?? Like the songs you mentioned are good and at the same time so different from what she usually sings in the festival. After so many years and so many times, you either bring a song that screams WINNER or be focused on your career and try it when you're really, really sure.

 

[elanyvx]

Honestly, same. I think my fave is Una Finestra Tra Le Stelle but i'm too afraid she's going to become one of those singers that are "only" defined by Sanremo, and i don't like that lately she takes part with songs that doesn't suit what she's currently doing?? Like the songs you mentioned are good and at the same time so different from what she usually sings in the festival. After so many years and so many times, you either bring a song that screams WINNER or be focused on your career and try it when you're really, really sure.

Annalisa has a powerful voice, she can range in various genres. When she brings out all her voice, she is certainly more appreciated, especially in a Festival like Sanremo. The last festival was great for her, unfortunately the women are penalized, the last winning woman was Arisa (2014). Unfortunately she need to win Sanremo, otherwise no Eurovision.

 

[PamSwynford]

https://www.facebook.com/EurovisionRai/photos/a.194993557212156/2728379317206888/?type=3&theater
RAI's in.

 

[sucof]

The countdown begins for Sanremo Giovani with a new record that rewards the decision of the artistic director Amadeus, approved by Rai1, to bring the New Proposals category to the Sanremo Festival. This year the starting number came in 842, the highest number of the last editions. Many questions have been submitted to the musical commission for consideration, recording an increase compared to last year of 163 units, equal to 24 percent.

In particular, there are 743 singers (420 men and 323 women) and 99 groups. From the South, most requests for participation (365, equal to 43.35 per cent), followed the North with 299 (35.51 per cent), the Center with 167 (19.83 per cent). Participation requests from abroad equal to 11 (1.3 percent) are also on the rise.

The Music Commission chaired by Amadeus, as artistic director, and composed by Claudio Fasulo, Gianmarco Mazzi, Massimo Martelli and Leonardo De Amicis, after the plays will proceed to select the first 60 artists who will participate in the live auditions to be held in Rome November 3 at the Teatro delle Vittorie.

At the end of the auditions, then, 20 groups and artists will be chosen to participate in the "semi-finals" live on the afternoon of Rai1, within the program conducted by Marco Liorni Italia yes, in the four episodes of November 16-23-30 November and of 7 December. Only then will the 10 finalists of the 2019 edition of Sanremo Giovani be known, the contest, broadcast on Rai1 on 19 December, which will see 10 "under 36" challenge each other to win and win 5 of the 8 places (2 will come from Area Sanremo and the other enters by right as a winner of Sanremo Young) to participate in the Sanremo 2020 Festival in the New Proposals category.

http://www.rai.it/programmi/sanremo...019-406f2417-c5d5-4bf9-8359-03e7dfa4e8b4.html

 

[Mainshow]

Apparently, RAI came up with a new rule: Artists have to officially and formally declare that they are interested in representing Italy in Eurovision before taking part in Sanremo (if they wish to compete in Eurovision).
Thus, artists won't have the choice to take the offer to represent their country in Rotterdam after winning Sanremo (like Mahmood who took a few days to consider his options).

I don't think that this is a good rule because Eurovision isn't that popular in Italy (it might be growing but it's not as known as in other countries) and I'm sure that many artists taking part in Sanremo haven't thought of being part of Eurovision before. Offering that privilege to the winner of Sanremo was one of the keys to success for Italy in ESC.

https://eurovoix.com/2019/10/25/italy-winner-of-sanremo-2020-will-go-to-eurovision/

 

[Sammy]

Does it really change that much? As far as I understand it, you just have to make your mind up before taking part, but it doesn‘t exclude you from Sanremo if you don‘t want to represent Italy. Or am I wrong?

 

[Franco]

Apparently, RAI came up with a new rule: Artists have to officially and formally declare that they are interested in representing Italy in Eurovision before taking part in Sanremo (if they wish to compete in Eurovision).
Thus, artists won't have the choice to take the offer to represent their country in Rotterdam after winning Sanremo (like Mahmood who took a few days to consider his options).

I don't think that this is a good rule because Eurovision isn't that popular in Italy (it might be growing but it's not as known as in other countries) and I'm sure that many artists taking part in Sanremo haven't thought of being part of Eurovision before. Offering that privilege to the winner of Sanremo was one of the keys to success for Italy in ESC.

https://eurovoix.com/2019/10/25/italy-winner-of-sanremo-2020-will-go-to-eurovision/

It's not a big change, actually.
They ask every contestant if they want to take part in ESC, before Sanremo begins.
Then. if the winner has said yes, the winner goes.
If the winner said no, RAI choose among the contestants who said yes.

The only difference is that the potential winner must choose before Sanremo and not after the victory.

I wonder if the list of those who said yes and those who said no will be publicly known. It could have some influence on the televote.

 

[sucof]

for the first time in the history of the Sanremo Festival the songs of the cover evening will enter the heart of the competition. The decision was made by the artistic director Amadeus who unveiled the regulation of Sanremo 2020, broadcast on Rai1 from 4 to 8 February. The first big news, therefore, is in the third evening of the Festival: the interpretation of the song by the 20 artists Campioni, songs taken from the great repertoire of the singing event and mentioned in the regulation as "Song of Sanremo 70", will be an integral part of the race because the votes obtained during the evening will be added to the votes of the other episodes.

News also for voting in the edition celebrating the 70th anniversary of the event. In each evening, in the Champions section, different juries will be asked to vote: the Demoscopic Jury for the first 10 songs performed on Tuesday and for the second 10 on Wednesday, the jury composed of musicians and vocalist of the orchestra will vote on Thursday, while the jury of press, TV, radio and web will vote on Friday. Only in the last polls and press evening will they vote together, with the addition of the televoting that will replace the musicians and vocalist of the orchestra.

But Amadeus and the Commission wink at indie and songwriters
The rules also change for the New Proposals section: in the first and second evening, only the polling jury will vote, in the third and fourth evening with this will also vote the press room, TV, radio and web, and televoting. And as already announced, the New Proposals section will return to have 8 artists in the race: of these 5 songs will be chosen during the final of Sanremo Giovani on 19 December live on Rai1, plus 2 songs selected from the Sanremo Area 2019 competition, and, finally , plus the winner of the 2019 Sanremo Young, Tecla Insolia, with an unpublished song. To know, however, the 20 champions in the race will have to wait for the episode of "I SOLITI IGNOTI - SPECIALE LOTTERIA ITALIA" of January 6th on Rai 1.

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/20...-la-serata-delle-cover-entra-in-gara/5533614/

The juries:
Sanremo 2020, the juries

Demoscopic Jury
The Demoscopica jury is composed of a statistically representative sample of at least 300 people selected from habitual music users who will vote from home through an electronic voting system.

Press Room Jury

The jury of the Press Room, TV, Radio and Web is composed of journalists accredited to Sanremo 2020 of the printed paper, TV, radio and web and will vote according to modalities that will be indicated before the beginning of the Sanremo 2020 live broadcast by the RAI Press Office.

Musicians Jury

The orchestra of the Festival Orchestra is composed of professional musicians, part of which is chosen by Rai on the basis of recognized qualities and part is instead made available by the Sanremo Symphony Orchestra Foundation; to these are added professional choristers, chosen by RAI on the basis of recognized qualities.

televoting

Voting by means of Televoto (voting by fixed telephony and mobile telephony) will take place in compliance with the regulations of the Communications Regulatory Authority. According to the art. 5 paragraph 4 of the aforementioned AGCOM Regulation, it is expressly forbidden to express votes through automated or not, fixed or mobile systems, which allow the massive sending of calls or SMS and / or utilities that provide call center services. Failure to comply with the aforementioned prohibitions will in any case lead to the immediate exclusion of those responsible and in any case of the song and relative Artist, also in accordance with the provisions set forth in these Regulations, with the exception of any further rights and / or actions provided for by the law and / or by the this Regulation for the protection and safeguard of RAI and Sanremo 2020.

 

[Loindici]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but by reading the rules quickly, is it true that there will be no more Giovani wildcards this year?

 

[sucof]

the "GIOVANI" category will be a different race than the "BIG" category, this year there will be two winners at the festival, one for the BIG category and the other for the GIOVANI category (it is the old sanremo formula, that had been abandoned for a few years)