Greece GREECE 2024 - Marina Satti - Zari

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[shameless]

I am so sad that so many events of this contest are overshadowed by the off-stage behavior of some artists and Marina is one of them. I just found out that she is my age and, I am sorry, for that she came across as very immature (for not saying something more insulting) with her playing Sleeping Beauty act (and I don't say that in advocating Israel / Eden). At least it suited her Mean Girls-outfit so maybe she was still in character when doing that.

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

I am so sad that so many events of this contest are overshadowed by the off-stage behavior of some artists and Marina is one of them. I just found out that she is my age and, I am sorry, for that she came across as very immature (for not saying something more insulting) with her playing Sleeping Beauty act (and I don't say that in advocating Israel / Eden). At least it suited her Mean Girls-outfit so maybe she was still in character when doing that.

jeez, Israel lost, get over it.

 

[shameless]

jeez, Israel lost, get over it.

Newsflash: The world is not black and white. I was not, in any way, rooting for Israels participation and am Pro-Palestine. Yet I can find that behavior coming from a 36 year old person off-putting. She should know better.

 

[John1]

Greece placing in the top 10 is one of the best possible outcomes of this ESC season.

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

I believe Greece should still have some hidden talent in alternative scenes. We've never sent a proper rock song for example, while Greece has a prominent alternative rock and metal scene. We've never tried a full-on modernised traditional song like dimotiko, or regional sounds like a song with Cretan instrumentation for example. Even an entry in entechno could be an alternative suggestion for once, Portugal's song this year with minor tweaks wouldn't have felt out of place in the Greek market.
But I agree that national finals would be the best avenue to discover new artists that can be bring smith extra. Croatia and Serbia are smaller countries, with their mainstream music presumably being not that different from Greece, yet they have sent BL and Konstrakta through national finals.

And Koza Mostra went to ESC through a NF, while they would probably never be internally selected

 

[PanosAK]

I am so sad that so many events of this contest are overshadowed by the off-stage behavior of some artists and Marina is one of them. I just found out that she is my age and, I am sorry, for that she came across as very immature (for not saying something more insulting) with her playing Sleeping Beauty act (and I don't say that in advocating Israel / Eden). At least it suited her Mean Girls-outfit so maybe she was still in character when doing

https://imgur.com/NDGjzA8

 

[shameless]

Greece placing in the top 10 is one of the best possible outcomes of this ESC season.

...only that they didn't?

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

Newsflash: The world is not black and white. I was not, in any way, rooting for Israels participation and am Pro-Palestine. Yet I can find that behavior coming from a 36 year old person off-putting. She should know better.

Id worry more about the german representative stating in an interview that he'd like Russia back in the contest. Not a good look. I can find that behavior coming from a 29 year old person off-putting. He should know better.

But Im sure Marina's yawning to the fake replies the israeli delegation was giving out is far worse to you, lmao.

 

[shameless]

Id worry more about the german representative stating in an interview that he'd like Russia back in the contest. Not a good look. I can find that behavior coming from a 29 year old person off-putting. He should know better.

If you feel a need to point that out because of the flag I have in my avatar to tease me, sorry it doesn't work as it's not my responsibility neither to I care.
However, seems that you guys in this thread are perfectly aligning with her behavior, so: all good.

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

If you feel a need to point that out because of the flag I have in my avatar to tease me, sorry it doesn't work as it's not my responsibility neither to I care.
However, seems that you guys in this thread are perfectly aligning with her behavior, so: all good.

Ιm not seeing you in the German thread complaining about his behavior, Marina's yawning is your biggest problem when it comes to contestants being problematic?

 

[shameless]

Ιm not seeing you in the German thread complaining about his behavior, Marina's yawning is your biggest problem when it comes to contestants being problematic?

This is a discussion board where I can comment on what I've witnessed in the contest. You don't need to support my opinion but you also don't need to tell me where I have to comment and where I don't have to.

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

This is a discussion board where I can comment on what I've witnessed in the contest. You don't need to support my opinion but you also don't need to tell me where I have to comment and where I don't have to.

Prioritize

 

[tararaaam]

I love how people are frustrated by Marina being “immature”, but dont have a single word to say about the delegstion harassing everyone they considered a target, until they would make them snap, managing it with Joost.

 

[ESC Athens]

Greek government spokesperson not so happy with Marina's yawn. He said: "Fortunately no countries express their foreign policy through Eurovision. However, when someone represents a country even in a music contest, they travel with taxpayers' money and they need to watch their behavior and attitude. Eurovision's target is to unite people through music".

 

[Nicholas123]

Greek government spokesperson not so happy with Marina's yawn. He said: "Fortunately no countries express their foreign policy through Eurovision. However, when someone represents a country even in a music contest, they travel with taxpayers' money and they need to watch their behavior and attitude. Eurovision's target is to unite people through music".

Ηe's a pile of trash, anyway. This is a tweet he made back in 2012 about ex PM Alexis Tsipras.

translation : "Tsipras, if we were alive during the greek civil war, you would be killed by me". Classy...

 

[PanosAK]

Greek government spokesperson not so happy with Marina's yawn. He said: "Fortunately no countries express their foreign policy through Eurovision. However, when someone represents a country even in a music contest, they travel with taxpayers' money and they need to watch their behavior and attitude. Eurovision's target is to unite people through music"

Oh man, yeah cause that's the true tax payer expense that is hurting us, the 3,000 dollar budget they gave poor Marina for Eurovision...NOT THE TAX PAYERS MONEY THAT PEOPLE LIKE HIM AND HIS PEERS PUT STRAIGHT TO THEIR POCKETS EVERY YEAR.

Fucking scum of the earth.

 

[DoctorX]

For me this was by far the coolest Greek entry ever! Loved Marina's energy, eclectic musical style, visual aesthetics and personality. Also have to mention that, Mecnun's staging made it an absolute delight to watch. A great artist who knows her brand and collaborated with the right people, didn't need to do too much. Just chefs kiss! Opa opa opa!

 

[soulm8]

Interesting fact is those artists do not get that they represent the face of the whole nation. When you show that you hate something… they gonna say Greece hated whatever it is. I saw a video in TikTok with Marina saying how much Greek people love Turkey during the press conference… well the Greek reactions were interesting to say. Hahah Marina is a real one and I guess she didn’t care what people gonna say, she was just herself.

 

[Citelis]

There is a constant hate against her on twitter from the start and it comes from right-wing and far-right accounts and several of them are pro-government. It's packed with massive misogynism and racism but she doesn't have to be liked by everyone and especially far-right people. And ERT hasn't support her as much as they should which forced her to somewhat had to apologize after what happened in the press conference, while she shouldn't imo.

However statements like ''Greek people love Turkey'' maybe are nice to say but are not shared by everyone. They sound naive at least. I mean we are not Russia - Ukraine case obviously but the situation isn't as wonderful as some imagine it to be.

 

[Ewigkeit]

And ERT hasn't support her as much as they should which forced her to somewhat had to apologize after what happened in the press conference, while she shouldn't imo.

Who exactly does ERT expect her to apologize to? To KAN, who caused problems for almost half of the broadcasters?

However statements like ''Greek people love Turkey'' maybe are nice to say but are not shared by everyone. They sound naive at least. I mean we are not Russia - Ukraine case obviously but the situation isn't as wonderful as some imagine it to be.

This is exactly the mindset that the far-right people you mentioned want you to have. As a Turk, I loved Marina and her stance during this entire sh*tshow. Right now I’m listening to the song “MIXTAPE” from her new EP - Greek reggaeton that I didn’t know I needed before. Marina also loves her fans, no matter where they come from. I think that’s all that matters.