Germany GERMANY 2023 - Lord of the Lost - Blood and Glitter

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[GermanBango]

Basically like the Eurvision version of the grinch.

Funnily green is my favorite color hahahahaha.

 

[Mainshow]

Basically like the Eurvision version of the grinch.

He´s way better looking, though xD

 

[ESC94]

He´s way better looking, though xD

Nope, you´re the best looking.

 

[GermanBango]

They show what´s popular right now in a certain field (e.g. bookies, fans, Spotify listeners in certain countries) - that´s true.

They still don´t picture a valid prediction, e.g. back in 2018, was #2 in the betting odds; 2021 was massively hyped amongst fans and press alike.
I´m not saying that songs which perform well on Spotify, YouTube, Fan rankings will perform badly next month - I just think that not being hyped by fans and bookies alike means that a song has to finish bottom 5! - There´s a lot in between (#8-#21) and honestly, there´s not much of a difference at the betting odds... we all know what most fan rankings look like... just look at OGAE polls... most countries have the same Top 4 every time and talking about streams.... a pop song winning a Nordic NF (in which most people follow the NF over weeks) will get more streams than a NDR-produced show most people didn´t care about.
Honestly, "Blood & Glitter" has performed well for a metal song so far (Top 40 Spotify Charts, #2 Viral Chart, #5 German Trend Chart, #5 Download Chart,).

Right now, it#s #16 on the streaming chart of "all 37 Eurovision entries" - that´s not "that bad".

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646993028664393731

What you say about streams is not "wrong", etc. but it´s wrong to say that this is an "indication" that will finish Bottom 5 - since the numbers are not as bad as you present them.

We don´t need some hype, we don´t need the general public and the hardcore gay Eurovision fanbase or British bookies to like our entry.
We need some metalheads and casual viewers of ESC next month to pick up their phones. It can definitely end like 2008 but I think that "Blood & Glitter" is more accessible and their looks/staging will be more memorable (they are basically a bit camp as well).
So who knows... #16 (as the streaming numbers suggests) or #20 (as the betting odds "predict" even though they say that all songs outside the Top 10 have 1% winning chances or less and thus, is basically #11 and #37 in the betting odds simultaneously right now) is possible - and everything above or below as well.. but who cares... finally we got a song which is not a surefire (second to) last ranked entry.

As I said these numbers together (not all by themselves) give a good indication of how popular an entry is. No, it does not have to translate into the actual results but more often than not entries who are overall doing well with odds, views, streams, fans, ... are doing well in the actual contest too.

There are always outliers for sure. Moldova had quite the thing for being a massive underdog in recent years.

 

[ESC94]

@GermanBango vs @Mainshow

Next round in their duel is starting. Who wants some popcorn??

 

[mauve]

@GermanBango vs @Mainshow

Next round in their duel is starting. Who wants some popcorn??

 

[ESC94]

Gosh that´s a disturbing picture, I´m gonna have nightmares for days.

 

[I bims]

He´s way better looking, though xD

This is the faggotry I've been here for. Getting into an argument BUT still being thirsty. Yas gorls, fight!

 

[Mainshow]

As I said these numbers together (not all by themselves) give a good indication of how popular an entry is. No, it does not have to translate into the actual results but more often than not entries who are overall doing well with odds, views, streams, fans, ... are doing well in the actual contest too.

There are always outliers for sure. Moldova had quite the thing for being a massive underdog in recent years.

Yeah, they tend to perform better - but it´s just for the Top 5 of the betting odds at this point (a month before the final).

When it comes to the fan votings, and were Top 10 (both failed to qualify), was #6 (it finished #25) and + didn´t finish Top 10 - and thus, they only had "50%" right.
Apart from very few fan favourites, such numbers/rankings are not really valid.

So far, is Top 20 in the betting odds, Top 20 on streaming out of 37 entries... it´s not excellent/good but not bad, either.

I just think that we shouldn´t be worried at this stage and there´s still room for improvement.

 

[GermanBango]

Yeah, they tend to perform better - but it´s just for the Top 5 of the betting odds at this point (a month before the final).

When it comes to the fan votings, and were Top 10 (both failed to qualify), was #6 (it finished #25) and + didn´t finish Top 10 - and thus, they only had "50%" right.
Apart from very few fan favourites, such numbers/rankings are not really valid.

So far, is Top 20 in the betting odds, Top 20 on streaming out of 37 entries... it´s not excellent/good but not bad, either.

I just think that we shouldn´t be worried at this stage and there´s still room for improvement.

(Thanks for the compliment of me looking better than the Grinch hahaha)

Let's turn the discussion the other way around: who will most likely end up behind Germany in the televoting? I'd say France, Switzerland/Netherlands (if they qualify), maybe Estonia/Cyprus (if they qualify). Other than that idk.

 

[Mainshow]

(Thanks for the compliment of me looking better than the Grinch hahaha)

Let's turn the discussion the other way around: who will most likely end up behind Germany in the televoting? I'd say France, Switzerland/Netherlands (if they qualify), maybe Estonia/Cyprus (if they qualify). Other than that idk.

(You´re welcome)

It really depends on the performances that night but honestly, I can see Lord Of The Lost getting a decent televoting result - even something around lower Top 10 to #20 - personally, I think that will get less votes - and these countries (if they qualify): , , - hell, maybe even (it´s a fan favourite because of all the Spanish fans and I know that it just entered the betting odds Top 5 but it´s a song which could easily finish Top 5 or Bottom 5 in televoting)... could turn into a "fanfail" if they continue performing like they used to do.. maybe even .. This year, we have very strong and competitive competitors ( who will be Top 10 in the televoting, for sure - maybe even surefire Top 5, imo) but the rest is more like a sump of entries which can go either way if you ask me.. it´s still quite open, e.g. I can totally see not qualifying, has been bottom 5 in the GF before but "diaspora" can also be strong and "Solo" is a generic bop (and we have seen them finishing Top 3 in semi finals before...).

 

[simori95]

GermanBango has a point, but so do the others. It is well within the realms of possibility that LotL will not create any buzz among televoters, and that the jury will likely not favor LotL is also clear. LotL is just too unpredictable televote-wise to be sure it will crack the top 20. it all depends on how many metal-Fans will be watching and voting, and it depends on how many casuals will latch onto the catchy chorus despite Not being metal fans. That said, the entry has been received kinda well, so it is definitely conceivable that a mid to high Top 20 placement with the public and thus a result in a 20th - 15th overall score is possible.

Which way ever you choose to anticipate their Placement however, those who just choose to enjoy and celebrate the Song regardless of placement (those that really like it I mean of course, those who don’t Are of course in no way obliged) are definitely doing something right

 

[Eidechse]

I'm not a fan of glam rock and my neighbor won't do anything special this time either.

The song isn't hopeless this time however, higher than the bottom 5 is a victory for Germany in recent times.

 

[ESC94]

(Thanks for the compliment of me looking better than the Grinch hahaha)

Let's turn the discussion the other way around: who will most likely end up behind Germany in the televoting? I'd say France, Switzerland/Netherlands (if they qualify), maybe Estonia/Cyprus (if they qualify). Other than that idk.

That´s not that difficult to achieve though.

This is the faggotry I've been here for. Getting into an argument BUT still being thirsty. Yas gorls, fight!

Maybe we should meet somewhere and do a big Eurovision group ****ing.

 

[Mainshow]

GermanBango has a point, but so do the others. It is well within the realms of possibility that LotL will not create any buzz among televoters, and that the jury will likely not favor LotL is also clear. LotL is just too unpredictable televote-wise to be sure it will crack the top 20. it all depends on how many metal-Fans will be watching and voting, and it depends on how many casuals will latch onto the catchy chorus despite Not being metal fans. That said, the entry has been received kinda well, so it is definitely conceivable that a mid to high Top 20 placement with the public and thus result in a 20th - 15th overall score.

Which way ever you choose to anticipate their Placement however, those who just choose to enjoy and celebrate the Song regardless of placement (those that really like it I mean of course, those who don’t Are of course in no way obliged) are definitely doing something right

But that´s the thing most of us are all happy and relieved about.

This year, it seems that (apart from Top 10), anything is possible and it´s quite fun to finally have an entry which you can root for - I just heavily disagree with the "prediction" that everything hints at "Bottom 5" - Yeah, it can still happen (and it wouldn´t surprise me that much because the song´s neither a hot favourite nor is metal a genre Eurovision viewers usually cling to) but there´s hope - they are very memorable, they have a catchy song and they are very different to all the other acts (also when it comes to singing, style).
It really depends on the mood of Europeans and if they can reach metalheads that night.

Bottom 5 in the jury voting is quite likely but when it comes to televoting - lower Top 10 to last place is possible... and thus, a mid-table result is not out of reach - that´s more we could have asked for.. especially after S!ster, Jendrik and Malik whose entries were dead upon arrival.

 

[GermanBango]

That´s not that difficult to achieve though.



Maybe we should meet somewhere and do a big Eurovision group ****ing.

Honestly I‘m taking all the compliments that I can get. Can’t afford to be picky.

Eurovision Gangbang Contest. Finally Europe … comes … together.

 

[ESC94]

Honestly I‘m taking all the compliments that I can get. Can’t afford to be picky.

Eurovision Gangbang Contest. Finally Europe … comes … together.

That was soo flat that it was funny again.

 

[AndroZeus]

Honestly I‘m taking all the compliments that I can get. Can’t afford to be picky.

Eurovision Gangbang Contest. Finally Europe … comes … together.

This is what Toto Cutugno was dreaming of

 

[GermanBango]

This is what Toto Cutugno was dreaming of

Grindr with music?

 

[AndroZeus]

Grindr with music?

Don't make me start musing about how "Insieme" sounds like certain other words