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Germany GERMANY 2019 - S!sters - Sister

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marty

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Ok you guys. I just talked to my mum who watched the NF as well and we both came to the conclusion that the result must have been rigged or atleast NDR did something to prevent other artists from winning, no clue. I mean, ok, I dont have REAL evidences, but some things really were done in favour for S!sters, two loveable girls, no matter what.

My theories:
- It has always been said that we will have 6 acts, out of a sudden a 7th makes it in. :lol: Its S!sters, a wildcard from NDR. Wildcards and winning, we know the drill.
- Huge promotion on TV and radio for S!sters. I said it before, they were with Linus the only acts introduced on TV on the channel ARD making them look like favourites
- My mum told me yesterday, she heard of a radio interview (NDR 2 which is a part of the ARD) saying S!sters were actually the faves to win by an NDR dude (yeah, of course)
- Having the coach of Carlotta (1/2 of S!sters) as the German judge on the show, seems unfair. Makeda couldve taken the 12 then, which wouldn't have changed a thing, but yeah
- S!ster is the only act with someone from Hannover, Lower Saxony, the location of the NDR (Just like Lena) which meant huge promotion from NDR for them
- NOBODY (:!:) expected them to win - last in the odds, mostly last in the Top Videos, in all rankings, it all screamed last place
- YET the NDR decided to place them 7th, the winning position of Michael Schulte last year. Coincidence? Dont think so. :?
- So .. the viewing figures are out: 2.99 million people watched, 2.84 million with the age between 14 and 49. No an age range that would necessarily vote for S!sters right? I dont think so.
- The massive shitstorm on the net, the love words for Aly and Lilly and the others show me what has happened to Ann-Sophie and Levina, people arent supportive of the act which leads me to the question then how on earth they couldve gained the most points from public then? :confused:
- having amateur singers is better for NDR to work with other than a BB Thomaz, Lilly or Aly Ryan who have visions and would consider themselves being part of the team that work on their staging - S!sters seems new, naive, NDR can do with them whatever they want, just like Levina, Jamie-Lee and Ann-Sophie. I mean .. they didnt even know their staging and performance 3 days ago?

I don't want to allege the NDR they rigged it, I dont, but we all know how TV works these days. Me as a journalist and media student feel like something has been planned and some people called it before the NF yesterday. Its a pity. I wish those lovely girls good luck nonetheless, but I hope they wont be shut down by the NDR. They have to think for themselves and emerge as independant women.

i love comments like yours. personally i think it was the fault of russian hackers.
 

GlamSIMorous

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i love comments like yours. personally i think it was the fault of russian hackers.

Yeah I am turning into a hell of an ugly cow really. I am sorry for that. Its just, well. Disappointment. So much excitement for nothing. Its sad.
 

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I can understand the disappointments - but I don't know if this was rigged … but conspiracy theories lead to nowhere. Makes your disappointment only stronger. Try to watch the performance again and you might change your view. THAT was what I did because Lilly was my absolute fave, but did undetstand afterwards why things didn't develop as I wanted. The Sisters were the ONLY act (maybe also Makeda) that brought passion onstage and that didn't feel awkward. I will support the Sisters cause I really love them.
 

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Honestly there is one thing that I can say with confidence: This was definitely the last time that I have watched a German NF.
One thing that I don`t understand about all of this: Why didn`t the NDR just go for an internal selection when clearly they wanted S!sters to win anyway? This was literally a waste of time and energy for the viewers, the fans and the artists involved.

I mean sure, the song is not bad but it`s not exactly something that screams "HIT!" or "12 points". I won`t start predicting the outcome in May now as this wouldn`t lead anywhere anyway but let`s just say that the song is a perfect fit to a an extremely mediocre ESC-year (so far).
I`ll be the first one to admit that I never liked our entry last year BUT the one thing that Micheal had was a connection to his song, passion and charisma - hell he put everything in his performance and the whole thing was so personal to him - therefore him doing well was very very justified for me. Don`t get me wrong, I`m sure that the two girls are lovely and their talent is undeniable (I wish I could sing that well - You would probably see me on that ESC stage haha) BUT this whole project just screams "fake" to me. The fact that neither of them worked on that song and that they have no connection to it and to each other is so obvious that even a blind person would and should be able to see it. Their reaction last night also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like bad and over-the-top acting to me - as if they`d already knew the outcome and were asked to act surprised.

What makes all of this just so frustrating is the fact that for the first time in what feels like ages we`ve had a very strong NF-lineup (imo) and yet the most mediocre songs came out on top. I`m not even mad (anymore) ... this is just utterly disappointing and fits the general mood of me slowly detaching myself from Eurovision altogether.

Edit: I think the voting of the "Eurovision Panel" is a big warning sign for the outcome in May. the NDR said themselves that they are ought to represent the "taste of Europe & Australia" - being third to last only beaten by crappy vocals and a hot mess of a song isn`t really promising no?
 

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Song and performance not too bad - I don’t remember the forum raving about the greatness of Michael’s song either until the rehearsals started...?

It’s 6 points from me though
 

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You thought Romania's or Italy's results were manipulated. Well, Schreiber shows you, there's always someone worse....

1. According to many Nordlichter,the only entry the NDR promoted in their region was... yes, Sister
2. A journalist of a rather mainstream magazine asked Schreiber, how the entry with the worst feedback got the best position in the show?! Schreiber's reaction? A nervous "I couldn't understand your question." (The question was very easy to understand btw!) After a longer pause another nervous "Well, I can explain you later, without the cameras on". Hm, that's called beim schummeln erwischt (caught, while cheating)...
I'm seeing your faces and you think coincidence. Well, we're not done, yet. It's getting better!
3. The majority of Germans voted for either Aly or Lilly (her 10 points aren't that surprising). There was little to no interest for Sister. Nobody cared for them and yet, they're getting 12 points, while Aly (everybody's favorite) only getting 7?! Yes, there are a nice amount of Germans who're liking the song (or better accepting the outcome), but none of them mentioned, they voted for them and yet they're getting 12 points... Looking at Sand's face while reading the results, you might get a feeling something's very off here. If you're favorite not getting enough votes, do it the Schreiber way and manipulate the outcome. Nobody would know, right?
Last, but not least my favorite coincidence: 4. Johannes Strate voted for Sister. Not surprising, if you know that he was her vocal coach on The Voice Kids: She also works as his background singer when on tour with Revolverheld. Not to mention, they're close friends. Well, here in Germany we call it Befangenheit or Interessenkonflikt (Conflict of Interest)
The Austrian jury member wasn't any better. He's the boss of Universal (Music). What do you think, which label owns Sister?! Exactly, Universal....
5. The result of this all: 6 talented young artist, who wasted almost one year of their lives, who put a lot effort and passion into their work, just to get burnt by Schreiber. Because he wanted the generic pop song by a casted girl group. Not to mention, that this is a song Switzerland didn't wanted....
I'm usually not believing in conspiracy and I take our entries as they come, but this is just too obvious for anyone with only one working brain cell!

After reading all this crap. I'm not even pissed anymore. Schreiber proofed us, he's just plain incompetent. Soo many years part of the ESC and he still hasn't learnt one single lesson. Other countries fire their people, if they don't bring good result or they just try other things. Schreiber likes to say "he learnt his lesson the hard way", too bad, he's making the same mistakes year after year!
Sister might not be a last place, but it's going to fight for a placing in the Top 20, that's for sure. I can hardly wait on the first interview with Schreiber after the final! If Schreiber needs another slap in the face to finally step back from his position. So, be it!
 

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I don‘t believe in the conspiricy theories. Somehow I missed to get hyped and therefore I hadn‘t placed bets on Lilly and Aly. All I had to consider was the performance last night. Lilly lost me after the first two notes. That was aweful. Maybe she was ill or something, but it simply wasn‘t enough to win. Alys perfomance wasn‘t bad, but the was too much focus on the light. The performer almost vanished in the colours and she lost the conection to the audience. That‘s why she didn‘t do better. And Sisters? They delivered. It is just simple as that.
 

morbidmelody

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Re: GERMANY 2019

Gregorian with a serious, non-cheesy song. Can't find any video of their would-be-ESC-entry "Masters of Chant", but with less ridiculous lyrics it would have been perfect.

Before we're getting quality acts like this, Germany needs to get rid of Schreiber. :?
 

morbidmelody

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I don‘t believe in the conspiricy theories.

This isn't called conspiracy, that's called fact checking and manipulation!
Johannes Strate voted for Sister. Not surprising, if you know that he was her vocal coach on The Voice Kids: She also works as his background singer when on tour with Revolverheld. Not to mention, they're close friends. Well, here in Germany we call it Befangenheit or Interessenkonflikt (Conflict of Interest)
The Austrian jury member wasn't any better. He's the boss of Universal (Music). What do you think, which label owns Sister?! Exactly, Universal....
 

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I'm not quite into conspiracy theories, but I would love yours to be true.. because I really don't understand how one of the worst song of the night won? It's not THAT bad actually but hey, you had Aly, Lilly, Makeda, even Linus and BB were quite better than this! If the results aren't manipulated then you really have the worst taste you Germans. Plus, adding this act at the last moment and putting them last in the running order.. That obviously can seem a little bit suspicious.
 

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You thought Romania's or Italy's results were manipulated. Well, Schreiber shows you, there's always someone worse....

Yeah ok, we probably blow it up a bit, yes, because we were fans of other contestants here, but I see your points, rather facts. Its what Ive written above as well, I even had a few more fun things there haah. Schreiber is making mistakes, so did he with Ann-Sophie messing up her chances by giving her such a bland and stiff show in Vienna, he covered his ears when people considered Levina's perfect life too Titanium-like, promised us a revamp and what did we get, nothing really. Plus the show, we dont have to talk about it, it was a disaster in Ukraine. Same goes for Jamie-Lee. Everyone says "Get rid of the green lights", what happens? "We keep the green lights and we added some projections" Making everyone excited, but they were barely noticable. S!sters will see what theyve got from winning. After their fail (18th-26th) Schreiber will just let them fall .. they will NOT attend the NF next year, obviously, because then its all gonna be like "What? Who is S!sters?"
 

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Yeah ok, we probably blow it up a bit
Not really, there are a way too many coincidences and at least 2 jury members (probaly even more) were biased and therefore not able to give an open minded judgement. To me, that's more than blowing up something....

After their fail (18th-26th) Schreiber will just let them fall .. they will NOT attend the NF next year, obviously, because then its all gonna be like "What? Who is S!sters?"
Well, people are asking for his resign for years now! Michael's fourth place doesn't make up for Schreibers horrible decisions before and now. The guy's not able to handle the ESC. If other countries can change their people in charge, we should be able, too!
 

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Of course it's suspicious. It has always been the last years. You always knew who they wanted to win. But to be honest, Sisters HAS the best chance to "win" (do well) out of all 7 acts.
Lilly would not stand out between Latvia and Romania (if they make it to the final at all) and all those "alternative" songs. And Aly, no. No appeal, though the song was good.
It's the passion of the "Sisters" that will make an impression. I'm quite confident we will go top 10 with them. There are still a lot of one time listeners who'll see them on May18th for the first time. I think they will get caught by them shouting out wholeheartedly, it's really impressive.
 

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I am so confused as to how Aly gets so much criticism for being herself - its the same what Dua Lipa does yeah they look alike. I think her being too cool on stage to move and her sensual lips and it all worked really well. Thats the appeal to me. I could see Aly have as much success as Dua. But well. Its done.
 

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Of course it's suspicious. It has always been the last years. You always knew who they wanted to win. But to be honest, Sisters HAS the best chance to "win" (do well) out of all 7 acts.
Lilly would not stand out between Latvia and Romania (if they make it to the final at all) and all those "alternative" songs. And Aly, no. No appeal, though the song was good.
It's the passion of the "Sisters" that will make an impression. I'm quite confident we will go top 10 with them. There are still a lot of one time listeners who'll see them on May18th for the first time. I think they will get caught by them shouting out wholeheartedly, it's really impressive.

I don't know for sure, but I actually can see them also in the top 10 (of the reasons you mentioned) while many exoect them to become last (or in the bottom).
 

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But to be honest, Sisters HAS the best chance to "win" (do well) out of all 7 acts.
I'm not so sure about that. It doesn't even matter, if we like the song or not. The majority of Europe can't stand it.
Even if the song hits the Top 10, which I really don't see, the whole NF was a farce and a slap in the face of all those 6 artists and their supporters!
Schreiber literally acted like we had an internal selection and did everything so his song wins. Sorry, but this is such a No-Go to me!
 

morbidmelody

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I am so confused as to how Aly gets so much criticism for being herself - its the same what Dua Lipa does yeah they look alike. I think her being too cool on stage to move and her sensual lips and it all worked really well. Thats the appeal to me. I could see Aly have as much success as Dua. But well. Its done.

Gosh, I loved her introduction video. I don't get people who call her cold or arrogant. She explained very well, why she is as she is. And I love her even more, now. I really hope,she doesn't give up on Germany. With the right management, she could be very successful here in Europe!
 

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The song is decent. It's not spectacular, but it's pretty nice. It's in the middle so far for me. I will see how it goes from here.

5 points.
 

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Today I feel little more sad too, that Aly Ryan didn't get elected yesterday. A bop's a bop and hers is quite irrestible. But I also keep on raping my youtube Replay button for "Sister". When people start to see the beauty and quality in Sister, they will withdraw their zeros. Every zero is a cry for love for Aly Ryan, but not for hate for Sisters.
 
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