Germany GERMANY 2019 - S!sters - Sister

[Alex1211ander]

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[Chorizo]

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Sorry, but i don't think that will evey happen. She did an Interview on n-tv and said this:

Question: Sowohl Fahrenhaidt als auch dein Produzent Nicolas Rebscher haben sich schon mal beim Eurovision Song Contest engagiert. Deutschland hat mit Levina gerade erst eine junge Künstlerin nominiert, die in Kiew antreten wird. Wäre der ESC für dich grundsätzlich auch vorstellbar?

Answer: Nein. Beim ESC geht es nicht mehr um den Song und die Musik, sondern um die Show. Oder es geht darum, möglichst skurril und absurd zu sein - wenn Russland zum Beispiel sechs Omis auf die Bühne holt. Wenn ich Erfolg haben sollte, dann aber bitte wegen der Songs. Ich bin Songwriterin und möchte, dass meine Songs Leute berühren. Der ESC verfolgt ein anderes Konzept.

Translation: At the ESC, its not about song and music. Its about show. Or its about sending something extremely quirky or absurd... like Russia sending six Granmas on the stage.I want to be successful because of the songs. I am a songwriter and I want to touch the people with the songs. ESC has an other policy.

I'm afraid she is right about that. Netta is proof that it is still like that.

 

[Chorizo]

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Still such an old fashioned viewpoint...

You know that a clucking chick won this year, right?

 

[mauve]

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I'm afraid she is right about that. Netta is proof that it is still like that.

I agree with you partly. But I think there are still entries here and there that don't care much for such a thing. And some musicians still can write songs for themselves. Netta was a sad situation. And getting to know the real circumstances after the ESC made it only worser. :?

 

[Sean]

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You know that a clucking chick won this year, right?

True but you know that Salvador smashed all available Eurovision records with a song that was quite the opposite? It's not about a particular formula, if she came with the best song and the right message she'd win, it's as simple as that.

 

[Chorizo]

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I agree with you partly. But I think there are still entries here and there that don't care much for such a thing. And some musicians still can write songs for themselves. Netta was a sad situation. And getting to know the real circumstances after the ESC made it only worser. :?

Of course, there are some good entries these days that bring quality to Eurovision. The sad thing is that these quality songs might flop while a clucking chicken wins the televote for making the audience laugh. Even many jury members rather attach themselves to a political message instead of voting for the quality of the songs. If even many jury members fail to take Eurovision seriously as a song contest, I can understand that many musicians are reluctant to enter the contest. As long as musicians have to assume that a quality entry they might choose will be disregarded in favor of a freak show that happens to entertain the audience at home, I can't blame them for staying away from Eurovision. This freak show image is the reason why the UK, for example, keeps sending such weak entries. None of their successful acts would want to appear on a show that is not taken seriously as a song contest but that is rather just focused on entertaining the audience with crazy stuff. Having a winner like Netta just confirmed this negative stereotype and did great damage to the contest. It's just not possible to build a good reputation if the trash is allowed to win. Quite sad, really, because Eurovision could be a much better contest.

 

[mauve]

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Of course, there are some good entries these days that bring quality to Eurovision. The sad thing is that these quality songs might flop while a clucking chicken wins the televote for making the audience laugh. Even many jury members rather attach themselves to a political message instead of voting for the quality of the songs. If even many jury members fail to take Eurovision seriously as a song contest, I can understand that many musicians are reluctant to enter the contest. As long as musicians have to assume that a quality entry they might choose will be disregarded in favor of a freak show that happens to entertain the audience at home, I can't blame them for staying away from Eurovision. This freak show image is the reason why the UK, for example, keeps sending such weak entries. None of their successful acts would want to appear on a show that is not taken seriously as a song contest but that is rather just focused on entertaining the audience with crazy stuff. Having a winner like Netta just confirmed this negative stereotype and did great damage to the contest. It's just not possible to build a good reputation if the trash is allowed to win. Quite sad, really, because Eurovision could be a much better contest.

I completely understand about what you say since I feel the same way. Let's face it: even the Jury members don't vote for quality songs anymore. This year was proof for it, but also years before. I was also disappointed and somewhat shocked that Netta really made it this year. But then again when you look at last year's winner, it was a quality song, not a song that reminded us of a freak show. So my hope is that maybe next year things will be better again. Nevertheless I am of the opinion that the Jury has too much popwer. But that was discussed already in the Jury-Hate-thread. And not everyone is of that opinion. Some people think that it is good that the Jury exists. But when I look at the German Jury with two so young unmature persons ... Additionally, they all loved the same entry. Well, talking about not influencing each other ... But coming back to the topic, yes, I can understand that some musicians are sceptical and don't take part in ESC. Sadly.

 

[Chorizo]

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I completely understand about what you say since I feel the same way. Let's face it: even the Jury members don't vote for quality songs anymore. This year was proof for it, but also years before. I was also disappointed and somewhat shocked that Netta really made it this year. But then again when you look at last year's winner, it was a quality song, not a song that reminded us of a freak show. So my hope is that maybe next year things will be better again. Nevertheless I am of the opinion that the Jury has too much popwer. But that was discussed already in the Jury-Hate-thread. And not everyone is of that opinion. Some people think that it is good that the Jury exists. But when I look at the German Jury with two so young unmature persons ... Additionally, they all loved the same entry. Well, talking about not influencing each other ... But coming back to the topic, yes, I can understand that some musicians are sceptical and don't take part in ESC. Sadly.

The best thing that can happen now is that among all those joke entry copycats that we will probably see next year a serious song will be able to stand out and be the winner. I think many countries will send something "fun and crazy" next year. I'd say we need the juries because the televote alone would make things even worse but the juries should be required to follow strict criteria. Currently they just vote for whatever they like for whatever reason, often even without any proper expertise to judge the songs.

 

[Alaska49]

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Sorry, but i don't think that will evey happen. She did an Interview on n-tv and said this:

Question: Sowohl Fahrenhaidt als auch dein Produzent Nicolas Rebscher haben sich schon mal beim Eurovision Song Contest engagiert. Deutschland hat mit Levina gerade erst eine junge Künstlerin nominiert, die in Kiew antreten wird. Wäre der ESC für dich grundsätzlich auch vorstellbar?

Answer: Nein. Beim ESC geht es nicht mehr um den Song und die Musik, sondern um die Show. Oder es geht darum, möglichst skurril und absurd zu sein - wenn Russland zum Beispiel sechs Omis auf die Bühne holt. Wenn ich Erfolg haben sollte, dann aber bitte wegen der Songs. Ich bin Songwriterin und möchte, dass meine Songs Leute berühren. Der ESC verfolgt ein anderes Konzept.

Translation: At the ESC, its not about song and music. Its about show. Or its about sending something extremely quirky or absurd... like Russia sending six Granmas on the stage.I want to be successful because of the songs. I am a songwriter and I want to touch the people with the songs. ESC has an other policy.

if that's her point of view then she can stay the fuck out whoever she is. we don't need her and nobody with this point of view has ever been that good of an artist anyway.

 

[mauve]

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The best thing that can happen now is that among all those joke entry copycats that we will probably see next year a serious song will be able to stand out and be the winner. I think many countries will send something "fun and crazy" next year. I'd say we need the juries because the televote alone would make things even worse but the juries should be required to follow strict criteria. Currently they just vote for whatever they like for whatever reason, often even without any proper expertise to judge the songs.

I am actually not so worried about next year. I am not sure if that is gonna really happen with so many joke-entries. And about the televoters: I don't think bad about them at all. When I look at Italy this year for example ... not good at all with the juries, but the televoters saved them and understood the meaning of the song. I really liked that. Or even Hungary. Okay, some don't like the song, but they brought fresh wind into ESC. I don't understand that the jury gave them so less points. Televoters saved them again. So maybe sometimes Juries save Songs, but televoters do as well.

 

[Pawhlen]

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Many in here (me included) thought that this year would have had more ballads and special messages following Sobrals win last year but that was not the case, so we never know

 

[Chorizo]

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if that's her point of view then she can stay the fuck out whoever she is. we don't need her and nobody with this point of view has ever been that good of an artist anyway.

You seem to hate everyone who doesn't like the circus. Do you work as a clown?

 

[Realest]

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Im wondering if they will take part again?

 

[mauve]

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Im wondering if they will take part again?

Hopefully not. Not my kind of style I am enthusiastic about.

 

[ChrisOL]

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Im wondering if they will take part again?

Right after the NF one of them said something like "never again".

 

[missbones]

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this is my newest addiction, I can't stop playing it, it's been on repeat for days now it's nothing out of the ordinary but I just feel so SO good while listening to it! such a feel good song

same goes for this one

 

[Alex1211ander]

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Application Deadline is the 31st of July, so I think we will know the finalists in October

 

[Preuss]

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Australia last and Germany out of the WC ruins my mood and summer

 

[Alex1211ander]

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Michael is ready for another participation at the ESC:

http://m.haz.de/Nachrichten/Kultur/Uebersicht/Michael-Schulte-will-wieder-beim-ESC-antreten

But I think not in the next year

 

[mauve]

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Michael is ready for another participation at the ESC:

http://m.haz.de/Nachrichten/Kultur/Uebersicht/Michael-Schulte-will-wieder-beim-ESC-antreten

But I think not in the next year

Would be definitely nice seeing him again in the future! He has strong music pieces, so I wouldn't worry!