Germany GERMANY 2014 - Elaiza - Is It Right

[Anjeza]

oh well, I should check wiki more often but I have no clue why it is like this, I mean we have no national holiday here on this Tuesday... Maybe the responsibles want to keep the tradition of us voting in 2nd semifinal

 

[Paddy]

Probably the want to vote for Norway so that we can apologize for Lena's fail in the voting announcement last year

 

[Leydan]

well, unless something major is happening then I don't see why countries should pre-assigned. last year it was just Norway, Denmark and Israel, now this year Germany and Italy are being added to the mix. Give it a few years and all the countries will be picking which space they want to go in.

 

[Sean]

Well, do they still use wildcards in Eurovision? That might have something to do with it

 

[A-lister]

Well, do they still use wildcards in Eurovision? That might have something to do with it

No, they stopped using that after the semis in 2009 when juries were brought back for real...

Or what do you mean with "wildcards"?

 

[GWTW1939]

No, they stopped using that after the semis in 2009 when juries were brought back for real...

Or what do you mean with "wildcards"?

You know when they pick a special ball allowing them to choose the running order they will perform.

Spain 2011 (picked 22nd same as previous winner), Poland 2011 (picked 1st in semi), Spain 2009 (picked 25th) and Spain 2012 (picked 19th) all had them.

At least I think that's what he's talking about

Either way all those "wildcards" wasted on Spain

 

[Sean]

Yes, running order and draw wildcards

 

[A-lister]

You know like they pick a special ball allowing them to choose the running order they will perform.

Spain and Poland got them in 2011 I remember and Spain got it in 2012 too

At least I think that's what he's talking about

I see, I can't recall it being used last year

 

[Leydan]

Yes, running order and draw wildcards

Well when they did the allocation draw for 2013 there was no wildcard draw, so I don't think they have it now.

 

[Sean]

Weird then I don't know why Germany would specifically need to vote in the second semi...

 

[A-lister]

Well when they did the allocation draw for 2013 there was no wildcard draw, so I don't think they have it now.

Since they introduced the totally corrupted, anti-democratic and non-transparent system of producers picking the running-order, I guess they want to rule ESC with an iron-fist and that means taking away any freedoms

 

[GWTW1939]

Yeah I can't find any information on them for 2013. I don't think they were used since as AshleyWright says they did the allocated draw xdoh

 

[Sean]

I forgot about the pre-allocated draw. Doesn't DR want to remove that?

 

[GWTW1939]

No their using it again this year so no changes from last year

 

[A-lister]

I forgot about the pre-allocated draw. Doesn't DR want to remove that?

You mean doesn't EBU want to remove that? Apparently not...

Isn't it a magic wonder how all this CRAP has been brought into the contest in the same time as Christer Björkman has been accepted to the board??

I can't believe they're still keeping that effed up system after all the reactions last year, it's like they are simply laughing at the public. So producers choose the running order AND juries are keeping their extra powers given last year... awesome!

Just wait and see, they'll probably keep the split results/country for themselves again and make up some new lame excuses to why the public won't be allowed to see it!

 

[Sean]

I would've thought given it's Denmark's contest that they could get rid of that rule (after all it was Björkman, a Swede, who introduced it) but that's a shame

 

[GWTW1939]

You mean doesn't EBU want to remove that? Apparently not...

Isn't it a magic wonder how all this CRAP has been brought into the contest in the same time as Christer Björkman has been accepted to the board??

I can't believe they're still keeping that effed up system after all the reactions last year, it's like they are simply laughing at the public. So producers choose the running order AND juries are keeping their extra powers given last year... awesome!

Just wait and see, they'll probably keep the split results/country for themselves again and make up some new lame excuses to why the public won't be allowed to see it!

From what I can tell this forum was the most negative. And while some other places had negative reactions too they were heavily outnumbered by the fanboys. They were just laughing cause while they knew what the system was going to do they supported the marking down of certain countries and bias towards others. The whole elimination of the Balkans was just met with great laughter in many places xshifty

The fanboys were pleased so the EBU aren't going to change it even if it means closing ESC further off from the general public

 

[Leydan]

Its funny how the EBU relent with transparency in the votes, but then persists with this idiotic and non-fair system they have to pick the order. I hope for 2015 its gone. But with the major corruption in the EBU I doubt it will go

 

[Sean]

Maybe it'd be removed if the UK or Germany hosted.....


We could be waiting a while with the former

 

[Leydan]

Our best hope is for Germany XD unless the UK have some great act up their sleeve or are in on the corruption then I don't see a uk win anytime soon.