France FRANCE 2020 - Tom Leeb - The Best in Me

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[Sammy]

I'm not being funny our anything, but people are entitled to form their own opinion based on what is on offer and what may likely happen. I think you should chill a bit, because the great thing about forums is that they're a place for everyone to post their opinions based on the current topic and then discuss with other people. Not only that, but people CAN actually change their opinion. What would be wrong would be to hate on the entry (if it is him) regardless of whether they like the song and just use it as a basis to hate, and considering John is French I hardly doubt he does because he hates France. So what is on offer and in discussion at the moment? A male guitar indie artist (based on what i've watched) so we can assume hes not likely to enter with a pop banger or some trash metal song. Quite possibly he will may enter with some slow indie guitar ballad in English as he seems to have a lot of songs like it (for me as a Brit the thought sends shivers down my spine because that sort of music is rammed down our throats here, not to mention that it's not to my taste). Anyway, people who are really not thrilled at the idea of that sort of artist going to ESC are hardly going to be cheering right now at this rumour. Perhaps they are a little premature in their comments to assume it is him and speak as if hes been confirmed but their posts are hardly so out there and offensive that they become so grossly unfair to France and this guy that is rumoured. It's eye roll worthy to say wait for the song or more details because literally every single person knows that, but if we all kept quiet on our thoughts then this forum would be dead.

I totally see your point, but I thought the slogan this year was "open up"... For me, that also means keeping an open mind to the songs and singers that may come along even if we all have our existing opinions about singers, styles and genres. I know that this might be difficult but maybe it's also worth allowing the possibility to be surprised instead of already knowing how I will like a song. Frankly, even if I know that the work of a certain singer might not be my cup of tea, phrases like "this will be a disappointment" or "that will not be successful" or "this is a copy of Duncan" at this moment are quite apodictic and the opposite of the spirit of this year's slogan.
I'm not saying people should cheer up for artists they know if they don't like them, but the way we talk about things now also pre-manufactures the way we will perceive the song later on.

 

[Sammy]

@AshleyWright You know, I suspect that the good sis @John1 isn't really French: he's probably Elina Nechayeva in the daytime and Gabriela Gunčíková at night. That's how I see him: mysterious with dual nationality.

Seriously though, you made a point. I don't understand why criticising, questioning or expressing reservations about a rumoured name would be more unfounded than praising it or saying it could rank top 5 at this point. The song isn't out.

If some people are excited about this, they do them, that's great. But others (me included) should be allowed to think otherwise based on the elements we have. We all have different standards and expectations, especially when it comes to our own country, so both ends of the spectrum will always be represented.

Reacting, even negatively, means we care, otherwise we wouldn't bother posting here. So why put John1 to the torch?

Very valid argument. Perhaps because we tend to like positive reactions more than negative ones in general. I mean, if you have a positive feeling about a person you barely know, it's called expectation, if it's a negative one, we call it prejudice...

 

[harey]

Well I personally have a bad feeling about this entry because there is no more a NF... And (for me) the only good side of an internal selection would have been to chose a more daring and unexpected entry that what we would have got with DE (or a big name). And what do we get? A folk ballad singer with a guitar (and there are absolutely any songs of him in YouTube sung in French, I'm also worried about it. Because it's not the same thing to sing in English or in French)

So, yeah, once again I am so disappointed. I hope that I will kinda like the song but I was hopping with something so different because I was so sad that there is no more DE.

 

[Mrm]

Have to be honest, John1 was always strange to me and in many occasions looks like a troll...
Changes opinions, thoughts, likings on daily basis TBH...

 

[John1]

I think that I'm more entitled than anyone out there to stress a fact about a rumoured entrant for my OWN country. To be honest, I don't care that some people are obviously pissed off that I ain't fond of at all a hunk representing France this year. I listened to his songs and they're bland and uninteresting.

Yes, if he went on to take part at ESC for , I'd be hugely disappointed given that FTV's decision/choice would be solely based on the fact that he's the son of a famous French actor and comedian. Whatever, I wouldn't give a damn about our entrant and if he ended up doing really well with a song that I don't like, I wouldn't be satisfied with this outcome.

@AshleyWright You know, I suspect that the good sis @John1 isn't really French: he's probably Elina Nechayeva in the daytime and Gabriela Gunčíková at night. That's how I see him: mysterious with dual nationality.

We stan a Czech-Estonian icon.

Have to be honest, John1 was always strange to me and in many occasions looks like a troll...
Changes opinions, thoughts, likings on daily basis TBH...

Why do you keep liking my posts on this thread or other threads if you think that my opinions aren't true then? It makes me kinda laugh that someone finds me strange or whatever, it makes me stand out.

 

[Mrm]

@John1

Exactly cause of that I like your comments (not all of course), I like strange ppl!

 

[Mrm]

@John1

But you change your opinions like socks!

So I wouldn't be surprised after all those words from you now, when the entry is released, you praise it like the best thing in the World EVER! That's you!

 

[Mrm]

I sometimes think @Citelis and @John1 are the same persons..

 

[Leydan]

@AshleyWright You know, I suspect that the good sis @John1 isn't really French: he's probably Elina Nechayeva in the daytime and Gabriela Gunčíková at night. That's how I see him: mysterious with dual nationality.

Seriously though, you made a point. I don't understand why criticising, questioning or expressing reservations about a rumoured name would be more unfounded than praising it or saying it could rank top 5 at this point. The song isn't out.

If some people are excited about this, they do them, that's great. But others (me included) should be allowed to think otherwise based on the elements we have. We all have different standards and expectations, especially when it comes to our own country, so both ends of the spectrum will always be represented. It's inevitable.

Reacting, even negatively, means caring, otherwise we wouldn't bother posting here. So why put John1 to the torch?

Yes exactly, people never react the same if it is hype and excitement. Its good to let everyone express their own views and opinions. Yes sometimes it can get a little heated but really this forum is very Kumbaya. I think part of if probably comes from not wanting to see your country criticised so the overwhelmingly sense of national pride most of us has kicks in to defend. Also if we all agreed this place would be boring.

I forgot that John is actually Elina Nechayeva and actually not some French person. my bad.

 

[FRFanESC]

I'd be hugely disappointed given that FTV's decision/choice would be solely based on the fact that he's the son of a famous French actor and comedian.

But what makes you think that ? We don't even know how did the selection process took place, nor the number of artist they auditioned for the song, etc. We don't even know the song lmao. Why are you acting a bit like a drama-queen ? Why are y'all overreacting for the announcement of the artist, did you forgot it is a song contest ?

I'm curious, what was your reaction when Amir et Alma were announced to represent France ?

 

[aef]

I can't stand this kind of guitar music at all.. Poor if he really has been selected...

 

[John1]

It feels so weird to be under the spotlight for once due to some of my reactions.

But what makes you think that ? We don't even know how did the selection process took place, nor the number of artist they auditioned for the song, etc. We don't even know the song lmao. Why are you acting a bit like a drama-queen ? Why are y'all overreacting for the announcement of the artist, did you forgot it is a song contest ?

So what lmao? I said and I'm going to repeat that I'm entitled to think and to S T A T E (in case some of you aren't able to properly understand my posts) my opinions on this sub as y'all do over here.

In MY opinion, this singer wouldn't be the right choice and a bold move from FTV to represent at this year's ESC, because I reckon that all of his songs are bad and dull as hell. However, you're totally able to write that he's amazing, good-looking and talented or whatsoever without anyone telling you that you're totally wrong in regards to your opinion about this guy.

Plus, seeing him singing in English rather than French is kind of worrying, given that imo your intonation and your pronunciation is "altered" if you're used to singing/performing in English, which is here way different from French.

I'm curious, what was your reaction when Amir et Alma were announced to represent France ?

As for Amir first, I had mixed-feelings about having him representing France since that he already took part at The Voice and that I despise this show. It turned out that he was already well-known for being quite talented and being able to deliver live.

Regarding Alma, I tend to like female singers much more than male singers, hence I was totally rooting for Alma right from the start.

I forgot that John is actually Elina Nechayeva and actually not some French person. my bad.

You seem to forget that I believed you were Natalie Horler for a little while as well.

 

[Mimmon]

ITS OFFCIAL That Tom Leeb will represent France

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217134541342748674

 

[MalagaToledo]

Sausage fest 2020 here we come. omh, next week will be so painful for me.

BTW, who is this? His wife?
http://instagr.am/p/BxpztKsoB1B/

 

[John1]

Let's wait for the song, but I'm hugely pessimistic regarding this choice...

 

[Ana Raquel]

 

[Koori]

This is what we've got instead of an amazing Destination?!

Listened to 3 his songs and they are all awful. RIP my most favourite ESC country

 

[Ana Raquel]

Unless he goes the Aisel route, my zero on the poll is already guaranteed

GET YOUR OLD HOD BACK

 

[Citelis]

Why you are all so negative???

 

[John1]

Why you are all so negative???

Because his music is dull as hell. But once again, I used to say the exact same with Amir so...