FIFA WORLD CUP 2018 - RUSSIA

[Himan]

Well. I'm pretty sure Western Europe isn't going to choose for Morocco. I'm especially afraid that Morocco is going to make 12 stadiums and there will be no big use for most of them. Nonetheless, I know no bigger lovers of the game, so I would love to give the people a party.

The last part should actually be very important. That's why I like Russia way more than Qatar. There is a bigger football culture in Russia and the stadiums will have use, because almost every stadium are in cities with more than a million inhabitants. If countries like Qatar wants it they just have to work together with nearby nations. I mean if The Netherlands wants to host a World Cup we should do it together with at least Belgium. There is no use for 12 stadiums with 40.000 seats. Only Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Eindhoven have clubs big enough for that.

So the best options are big nations with use for 12 stadiums after the WC and can maintain it(USA, France, Italy, England, Russia, Spain Germany, China, Brazil) or make combinations... (2,3 nations in Africa work together with Algeria, Tunisia)

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

I support the North American bid for 2026 (although I would call it more the American bid with Canada and Mexico thrown in for good measure - the hosting plan would mean that 2/3 of all matches and all of the 'big' matches are in the US lol).

New polling out shows that 50% of Brits now support England boycotting this World Cup with 16% wanting the Three Lions to go to Russia.

 

[ShoeFlo]

The performance of English national football team will probably look like a boycott anyway

 

[Charly]

Well. I'm pretty sure Western Europe isn't going to choose for Morocco. I'm especially afraid that Morocco is going to make 12 stadiums and there will be no big use for most of them. Nonetheless, I know no bigger lovers of the game, so I would love to give the people a party.

The last part should actually be very important. That's why I like Russia way more than Qatar. There is a bigger football culture in Russia and the stadiums will have use, because almost every stadium are in cities with more than a million inhabitants. If countries like Qatar wants it they just have to work together with nearby nations. I mean if The Netherlands wants to host a World Cup we should do it together with at least Belgium. There is no use for 12 stadiums with 40.000 seats. Only Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Eindhoven have clubs big enough for that.

So the best options are big nations with use for 12 stadiums after the WC and can maintain it(USA, France, Italy, England, Russia, Spain Germany, China, Brazil) or make combinations... (2,3 nations in Africa work together with Algeria, Tunisia)

Actually these new stadiums would be certainly used after the World Cup! Morocco possesses a a developed league system which includes teams from all hosting cities but also for future events! I don't think all W Europe would vote for United bid if you look at the strong support and cooperation between Moroccan, Portuguese and Spanish FA and the traditional backing of France

 

[Charly]

I'm really happy with the TV Spot done which outlines the passion and love for football both the poor and rich side, men and women, no matter where in Morocco such as cities, villages, mountains, beaches and deserts

 

[Himan]

I'm talking about for example Ouarzazate stadium. I have looked it up. It's in the middle of the desert. There live 70.000 people. There is as far I can see no big club there. Lets build a 45000 people stadium there. Yes, during the wc this stadium is full because I trust the Moroccan fanbase. But this stadium will definitely be abandoned afterwards. Or have teams which can't fill the stadiums. Just like I think that the Netherlands has use for 3 or 4 of such stadiums. Your country has use for around 8. You're going to build 14 of them.

So I think the Fifa should soften the rules or you should work together.

 

[Charly]

I'm talking about for example Ouarzazate stadium. I have looked it up. It's in the middle of the desert. There live 70.000 people. There is as far I can see no big club there. Lets build a 45000 people stadium there. Yes, during the wc this stadium is full because I trust the Moroccan fanbase. But this stadium will definitely be abandoned afterwards. Or have teams which can't fill the stadiums. Just like I think that the Netherlands has use for 3 or 4 of such stadiums. Your country has use for around 8. You're going to build 14 of them.

So I think the Fifa should soften the rules or you should work together.

Correction to that, 5 stadiums 2x Casablanca, 1x Nador, 1x Ouzazete and 1x Marrakech all have been made plans for the WC2026 The Casablanca stadium will replace the old stadium alongside another 1 45,000 would be either for Raja or Wydad. The new 45,000 seater for Marrakech would be used by the other Marrakech team. Ouzazete may be small however it does possess a team but also it would be venue used for league, friendlies but also international sport events

Rabat will use it's existing stadium alongside with Tanger, Agadir, Marrakech and Fez which 3 of them have the option of increasing capacity

The rest of stadiums Oujda, Tetoun, El Jadida and Meknes plans was all plans before the World Cup application and they are all planned to replace the old stadiums

Also the Grand Stade of Casablanca was planned for a long time ago dating back to 2011

 

[Himan]

Okay, so let's say we are doing a WC in the UK but now instead of using the stadiums we should use. We are going to build new stadiums for 45.000 people. Let's make the cities bigness equivalent.

Ouzazete means, we are going to build a stadium for 45.000 people in Woking
Nador means we are going to build such stadium in Aberdeen.
El Jadida means we are going to build a stadium in Gloucester

I mean nothing wrong with this, but I saw it going wrong in other countries: Brazil, China, Greece, South Africa. I really want that this World Cup is also good for the people of the country after the world cup and these stadiums have a good use. And I'm not sure about that, Morocco is to small for that. The problem is I will win this argument just in 2027. That's what I hate about it.

For Europeans to show what I mean. Morocco has 35 million people, so it's like putting 14 stadiums in Poland. Which is a way richer country than Morocco. Or 14 stadiums in Netherlands and Belgium, which I think would already be very hard and 3 stadiums in both countries will not be full all the time in competition. This will happen in Morocco too. I'm pretty sure. I believe in the country to make a great party, I even believe more in your country to be big Football lovers. But this kind of World Cup hosting in Morocco isn't the greatest idea. (If it would be 6 40000 stadiums and 6 20000 people stadiums or something like that, I would have said a totally different thing)

The best option for me is: don't make the rules this strict and host it in Morocco with 6 nice 20000-25000 people stadiums and 6 45000 people stadiums and skip the stadiums in Ouzazete and Nador.

 

[Charly]

Ahh trust me, Nador and El Jadida would be in good use especially the close approx between Casa and Jadida and the amount teams from Casablanca which is around 4-5 but also the rivalry and close approx between Oujda Nador Tetoun and Tanger

You should see the club fans and how active they are Ultras etc but with Ouazazete I think it will be a demountavle stadium with the Works of containers. Marrakech certainly need a a capacity upgrade since 45,000 is certainly not enough due to the average capacity percentage per games and the hosting of events with the other stadiums of Fez Agadir and Tanger also apart from the WC Morocco is also stepping up as hosting duties with the recent CHAN after a change of host and are the back up if Cameroon is stripped of it's duties. It would probably be planned again that Morocco may get involved in the Club World Championship

 

[Himan]

I know how active your ultra's are. It's probably better than here. But I don't want them to die out. I still think 25000 is a better size. But whatever like I said we may see in 2027(I still think it will go to USA...)

 

[Charly]

There are always the possibilities of downgrading the capacities of the stadiums though if you look at the Olympic Stadium in London, they downgraded the capacity of an 80,000 seater to 60,000

 

[Himan]

Sure, but don't forget that costs money too. And Morocco is not as rich as the UK. I think Morocco is a bit more like South-Africa. But I actually don't like the FIFA Rules and not Morocco for trying to get the World Cup. Cause if you would have decided yourself you would have had my idea with 12 stadiums and so on.

 

[Charly]

I recommend taking a look up on the recent launched official website www.morocco26.com it will give you all the details of the planned use for stadiums aftermath the World Cup 26

 

[Himan]

There is nothing specific...

 

[Charly]

You can click on each city...

 

[Himan]

About the aftermath.

 

[Charly]

The president of the French Football Federation (FFF), Noel Le Graet, said on Thursday that France will be a strong supporter of Morocco’s 2026 World Cup bid. this adds France to official supporting countries which includes Qatar, Algeria, Tunisia, Guinea Bissau, Nigeria and Botswana

 

[cegs5]

Some friendly matches results this weekend:
- 0 - 2
- 0 - 3
::uy - 2 - 0
- 2 - 3
- 2 - 0

All the five South American qualifiers slayed

 

[Charly]

preperations for its World Cup return is on track after a 2 - 1 victory over

Venue: Turin,
Referee: Marco Guida

 

[Charly]

Luxembourg, Serbia and Russia has officially declared their support for Morocco 2026