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It's time for the rehearsals to finally get underway for Eurovision 2024 at Malmö Arena! 37 countries will begin their preparations for this year's contest today, with over two weeks of coverage to come from the ESC United team on the ground!

The schedule for rehearsals is below (thank you Eurovisionworld! All times in CEST);





You can check out Matt's pre-rehearsal live stream below in case you missed it;


DAY ONE


The team will be on hand to cover everything going on in Malmö over the coming weeks, so make sure to follow ESC United on Facebook, Twitter (X), Instagram, and YouTube and Twitch to not miss a minute!

Please also use this thread for any rehearsal coverage and discussion, including for jury shows, dress rehearsals and the live shows!​
 

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yuki_vamp.esc

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twice in a row already that one entry been dominated for the jury score, perhaps they would now considered the effect of removing juries in semi's as it could be one of the reason this is happening.
 

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So Israel received in SF2 15/18 scores of 12/10, a 8 from Estonia (?), a 6 from Armenia (I'm less surprised) and... a 0 from San Marino.
Come on, la Serenissima, do not give up on Eurovision. You're useful, 95% randomly, but that's always funny to see.
 

Ajeje Brazorf

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Grand Final results
Jury vote;


Public vote;
  1. :hr: - 337
  2. :il: - 323
  3. :ua: - 307
  4. :fr: - 227
  5. :ch: - 226
  6. :ie: - 136
  7. :it: - 104
  8. :gr: - 85
  9. :am: - 82
  10. :lt: - 58
  11. :se: - 49
  12. :cy: - 44
  13. :ee: - 33
  14. :rs: - 32
  15. :fi: - 31
  16. :lv: - 28
  17. :lu: - 20
  18. :ge: - 19
  19. :de: - 18
  20. :pt: - 13
  21. :sl: - 12
  22. :es: - 11
  23. :at: - 5
  24. :no: - 4
  25. :uk: - 0

Top 5 eat almost the totality of the televote points... I was really ucertain who would have won in the end.
 

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From ME personally - Congrats to NEMO, congrats to Switzerland! :ch:
I didn't predict you FIRST, but I'm REALLY happy for you! (secretly crying for Italy...)
One thing I'm sure of - Switzerland WILL take next years host responsibilities SERIOUSLY and would give EXCELLENT live shows in 2025! :love:
HATE that Norway finished last... NOT deserved.
Otherwise, I'll TRY to keep up with you during the quiet season, but , for sure, I WILL be back when the next season starts.
EUROVISION is in my HEART and has been for decades. I will NOT leave this bubble for ANY reason! xrose

Be good, everyone! xwave
 

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Netherlands would have received enormous amount of public voice in the final. Croatia did not take advantage of the situation though…
 

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Couple of thoughts on tonight.

- Shocked Norway finished last.

- UK getting zero from the televote was a big shock, i knew it wouldnt do well with the public, but zero? I mean cmon, thank the lord for the juries who saved us, still 18th overall isnt too bad

- Absolutely delighted though for Ireland, a 6th place finish after all these years of disappointment is a fantastic achievement.

Congratulations to Nemo for winning, absolutely thrilled for them.
 

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Iceland dead last. It’s what we deserve.
100% agree. It was obvious this would be the result the moment she won. We need to change the way we do the superfinal. I know this year different things were at play but it happens far too often that when we get down to the final two all the sore losers vote for the boring entry, we send it and sit at the bottom where we belong.
 

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If ROTW votes will continue to serve one or two country I don't really see the point of it. And we saw results last year and this year already which can serve as indicators.
 

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The ESC 2024 final is over and here are some of my personal reflections:

- Congrats to :ch: Switzerland with victory! Not among my favourites (I like the song which is interesting better than the stage show) but popular overall, one of the pre-contest favourites, and fun for them to win again after so many years (last time in late 1980s).

- Getting so many 12 points (22 if I recall) from juries makes one wonder, however what’s going on.. hopefully nothing untoward, tactical voting or some such. Everyone in my family found it somewhat suspicious though to be honest.. one might have expected say Croatia or France to get at least 1/3 of those 12 points from juries that went to Switzerland..

- Congrats also to :il: Israel with a great 5th place, weathering the heavy 'storm' in every way and impressively getting 2nd most public votes and almost 100 votes more than the winner Switzerland. Very impressive indeed! My personal winner! xup

Hopefully the juries were not deliberately trying to sink Israel to ensure Israel would not win.. hopefully the surprisingly few jury points to Israel (substantially less than any others in the top 10) were coincidence after all. If not, it's a scandal in my view regardless who is the victim.

- Another ESC-year where the winner is not the public favourite. If I recall correctly, 4 songs got more televotes than the winner (Croatia, Israel, Ukraine and France) which will 'put fire' in the debate whether the juries should have less (or no) power in ESC. This also means the people did not want Switzerland as winner, far from it. It was the juries that wanted it.

I have been of the personal opinion that 50% juryvote 50% televote is a good compromise in ESC but more and more I am beginning to wonder if the juries (often consisting of just 5 people) have too much power and end up deciding the winner so perhaps the televote should count more (say 70% televote 30% jury) so the public's voices are heard better.

- Very disappointing evening for Gåte and :no: Norway. I was uncertain how they would do result wise since the song is different than most but coming last in the final was very very underserving in my eyes. The juries trashed us again (for the nt time) and this time the public too. But we are proud of you, Gåte!

- My favourites tonight were: Israel (best song of them all!), Cyprus, Austria, France, Slovenia, then Ukraine, Norway, Spain and Georgia.

- Biggest surprise for me was that the Irish entry which I frankly thought was pretty awful did so well. No one in my family could believe it when it got so many points, we had it in last place. Must have been a protest thing to some extent is my thought. Cyprus did worse than I expected, Finland also while Armenia and Portugal did much better than I thought they would. Disappointed that Austria and Slovenia were so little appreciated.

- Very happy that demonstrators were unable to sabotage a great ESC-evening which many of us enjoyed despite all the controversies. I feared someone would get up on stage and wave a flag (or worse) and cause a drama.

- Great final show with great professional hosts imo. :se: Sweden for sure know how to do this with quality. Some booing (as expected) but nothing major to destroy the joy and fun of the event. Great to see Alcazar again in action, also great tributes to the Swedish legends ABBA!

Well done, Sweden! A great final with lots of enjoyable music entertainment held in very difficult citcumstances but with quality, style and fun. And all this despite naysayers, haters, critics and people who wanted this event to be a fiasco after all that has happened in the past few days. They did not get their way and I for one am happy for that! Music and togetherness conquers all!

Already looking forward to next year’s ESC in Switzerland! xdance2
 

Ajeje Brazorf

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If ROTW votes will continue to serve one or two country I don't really see the point of it. And we saw results last year and this year already which can serve as indicators.

I didn't see the point of It from the beginning to be honest. International market is the real Rest of the World vote, and in recent past some Eurovision Entries were really successful even outside Europe.
 
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