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Jury-wise we have a terrible spot. They will love Georgia and Malta has the Type of song they will like. We won't impressed them
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Jury-wise we have a terrible spot. They will love Georgia and Malta has the Type of song they will like. We won't impressed them
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Running order reactions (no, I know everything doesn't have to do with the running order but it could affect the results A LITTLE BIT):
SEMI 1:
is now an definite qualifier i think. They probably didn't put it last JUST for the song, they probably have some great staging ideas as well. Interesting that they put and so close to each other, it's feels impossible for to qualify now (and too of course). Interesting to see if will go through with their opening slot with such an meh song. Otherwise it was quite expected!
SEMI 2: Feels like is destined to not qualify now. feels like an definite qualifier. will probably struggle now when they follow which will create a lot of buzz and have after it. But this semi is SO unpredictible, I think at least 14 songs has a chance to qualify still.
SEMI 1:
is now an definite qualifier i think. They probably didn't put it last JUST for the song, they probably have some great staging ideas as well. Interesting that they put and so close to each other, it's feels impossible for to qualify now (and too of course). Interesting to see if will go through with their opening slot with such an meh song. Otherwise it was quite expected!SEMI 2: Feels like
is destined to not qualify now. feels like an definite qualifier. will probably struggle now when they follow which will create a lot of buzz and have after it. But this semi is SO unpredictible, I think at least 14 songs has a chance to qualify still.
No. All Good Songs from #2 Qualified by Televoting in the History. Even LV14 could Quaify despite being weak.
Really? Didn't know that. Hopefully this Tradition will continue!
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Nathan Trent qualified only by the Juries last year.
Well, his song was very average. But Diaspora-adjusted he would have come around 11th-12th in the Semifinal-TV so I dont see that he was hurt by the Draw.
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i understood maybe 17% of this post and "diaspora-adjusted" is a nothing
it is true that most qualifiers from the second spot have done well in the televote but there is no correlation between the second spot and doing well in the televote lol
"Diaspora-adjusted" means subtract all Diasporavotes which lead that Austria overtakes Macedonia and Serbia in the TV-Table since they relied extremely strong from their Diasproas.
No, of course not. But theres also no Correlation between #2 and doing bad in the Televoting.
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i understood what diaspora-adjusted was supposed to mean. it is a nothing because diaspora vote is not something you can quantify. we don't know why people voted the way they did so we can't say all the points a country gives to another are due to diaspora (or block voting).
speaking of diaspora, romania better get moldova and italy's televote 12s because otherwise they don't have a lot of guaranteed points and are also historically disadvantaged with the juries (not undeserved most of the time and specially this year).
speaking of diaspora, romania better get moldova and italy's televote 12s because otherwise they don't have a lot of guaranteed points and are also historically disadvantaged with the juries (not undeserved most of the time and specially this year).
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So 9th is before the break if I understood things correctly?
EBU pushing Australia AGAIN, quelle surprise! Zzzz They'll probably win the jury vote again then, if they could get second with the non-qualifier they sent last year then anything is possible, then I wouldn't be surprised if they are once again pushed to victory... it's starting to become pretty obvious now and it could be connected to that the EBU, with their back-door politics, want to create a "bidding-war" for hosting and Eurovision tradition will be forever lost if that is introduced in 2019 (which is what will happen if Australia wins)... not only will only rich broadcasters willing to pay up be the only ones that will get the chance to host it then, it will open up for corruption and other dirty games as we see with Olympics, UEFA and FIFA... so let's hope it won't come to that...
As for other countries, I guess the second EBU favorite is Estonia then? At least it would follow what many of the fans would agree on...
Czech and Israel are pretty lucky, squeezed in between more meh entries, so that could work for them... not a fan of Czech myself, but he's definitely a crowd-pleaser, and so is Netta (although I think it would make more sense to have Netta go before the break).
Moldova is pretty lucky in semi 2 as well, will stand out, and Sweden got a good position as well (quelle surprise!) , Cyprus and Ukraine ending the shows are quite "logical" if following Björkman logic, they are uptempo crowd-pleasers both of them.
There is a risk that Macedonia and Croatia (Semi 1) and Poland and Malta (Semi 2) could take out each other though, but we'll see... at least Poland is lucky coming after Georgia.
I see lot of people think of Romania as some sort of sure qualifier, have you heard the song? Is a bore! Without diaspora votes and some random weird jury votes, this song is a sure non-qualifier, and with its position now it looks even more certain it won't qualify.
Belgium, an entry I personally find overrated and pretty boring but seem to be a fan favorite, is very lucky coming after probably two of the worst and most meh entries of this year's contest which will make it look better than it is (imo).
Well, last year Australia got a fair #3 in the Semi and #14 in the Final. This year the Running Order was probably decided based on the Betting Odds and Australia is 5th.
Sweden was #1 in the strong Semi and Sandwiched by Belgium and Bulgaria last year, so I dont see there any special Treatment regarding certain "Power-Countries".
Btw. Romania is seen as a NQ by nearly everyone. Dont know where you read this.
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I didn't refer to Australia's starting order last year though... just to clarify
Really? I see lots of people thinking they (Romania) are some sure (or atleast were before the starting order revealed) qualifier?
