ESC 2018 General Discussion Thread

[DanielLuis]

Honestly, now I am pissed that Portugal is hosting :/ They're worst hosta ever! No LEDs and now no visual... I wish Salvador never won... This Eurovision will be horrible. It's 2018 not 1956...

As I said before, there will be augmented reality that is the evolution of those cheesy green screen effects. There will also be a new huge "wall of death" that will give use to the lights very effectivecly, with new technology. It'll be much more creative than putting the singers face on a wall. It has already been revealed that it wasn't just RTP behind getting rid of the LED wall as well - the production core team of the ESC was thinking about trying the same thing for the last few years.

Besides, there'll still be fireworks and pyro and wind machines and all that jazz. Geez, give us a chance, the show hasn't even started yet and you have already decided that this is the worst host ever. Some of the fans are truly beyond ridiculous sometimes.

 

[AlekS]

Geez, give us a chance, the show hasn't even started yet and you have already decided that this is the worst host ever. Some of the fans are truly beyond ridiculous sometimes.

Welcome to my shoes

 

[Iker]

Yeah, I also don't see the point of getting back in 20th century. Whole that thing :"Music is feeling" is over the top for me. Let the all different things to be, and feelings and fireworks, why not, that is the TV show after all, otherwise, ESC should be held on radio, not TV, we should listening to the songs, and choose the best, without visuals. Some people fall for feelings, some for fireworks, and I think that is all ok, because we are all different.

I actually like there will be no LEDS for a change, because maybe more people will focus on the songs and live vocals.

 

[lolita]

I actually like there will be no LEDS for a change, because maybe more people will focus on the songs and live vocals.

That is good, too, but LED's can be used to tell the story of your song, to share the message better, etc, if someone knows how to us it properly ( not those selfies like last year, is was stupid and annoying) . I am ok if the LED's are gone for this year, but I don't have nothing against it, like some fans now do, after Salvador's speech. I don't think that contest in Portugal and whole organisation would be bad because there are no LED's. Point is that staging and presentation of the song in any other way, matters, a lot. Every winner in the past years had both, whole package for victory.

 

[Iker]

That is good, too, but LED's can be used to tell the story of your song, to share the message better, etc, if someone knows how to us it properly ( not those selfies like last year, is was stupid and annoying) . I am ok if the LED's are gone for this year, but I don't have nothing against it, like some fans now do, after Salvador's speech. I don't think that contest in Portugal and whole organisation would be bad because there are no LED's. Point is that staging and presentation of the song in any other way, matters, a lot. Every winner in the past years had both, whole package for victory.

They can ... it's true. But I've seen them literally swallowing the singer and making him look lost on stage (Isaiah last year for example). I just don't understand why people are apparently mad or crazy in love about some LED's or their lack of it. Only some use them properly anyway. You would think that Eurovision absolutely cannot be a good show without them.

 

[lolita]

They can ... it's true. But I've seen them literally swallowing the singer and making him look lost on stage (Isaiah last year for example). I just don't understand why people are apparently mad or crazy in love about some LED's or their lack of it. Only some use them properly anyway. You would think that Eurovision absolutely cannot be a good show without them.

All true here. I mean it only if there is any purpose to use them properly. That Jamala's tree looked beautiful, coming with the song, and it served well to tell the story of Mans Zelmerlow's Heroes. It is true that many of contestants used them last year, without reason, like: " Oh, here is LED, we can use it, just some nonsense effect, or put our face on it, even if we don't need it, and it doesn't go well with the theme of the song! "

 

[Sherlock]

I actually like there will be no LEDS for a change, because maybe more people will focus on the songs and live vocals.

This.

 

[Kaz]

I had a dream last night of the qualifiers...maybe it’ll be one of those psychic dreams that predicts the future? Whenever I meditate before bed I always manage to remember my dreams super well, so I encourage you guys to try it lol!

Semi 1
Azerbaijan
Belgium
Czechia
Estonia
Bulgaria
Macedonia
Greece
Finland
Armenia
Cyprus
(Yup, that’s right! No Israel! I remember in my dream, writing a post on here about how Netta is the flop queen.)

Semi 2
Norway
Romania
Serbia
Denmark
Netherlands
Australia
Georgia
Slovenia
+ 2 more I can’t remember, but I do remember that Sweden was the shock NQ of this semi.

 

[lolita]

I had a dream last night of the qualifiers...maybe it’ll be one of those psychic dreams that predicts the future? Whenever I meditate before bed I always manage to remember my dreams super well, so I encourage you guys to try it lol!

Semi 1
Azerbaijan
Belgium
Czechia
Estonia
Bulgaria
Macedonia
Greece
Finland
Armenia
Cyprus
(Yup, that’s right! No Israel! I remember in my dream, writing a post on here about how Netta is the flop queen.)

Semi 2
Norway
Romania
Serbia
Denmark
Netherlands
Australia
Georgia
Slovenia
+ 2 more I can’t remember, but I do remember that Sweden was the shock NQ of this semi.

Even though I like , I won't be surprised if it flops, because there is lot of hate going on, and noone actually cares about the song. (objective opinion now, without joke and me being a police : it is not special, it is average, but still good and quality entry, I think there are lots of worse songs than this one, but I like it exactly because it is so relaxing, cool and not pretentious). But there was hate in the past two years also, but they did well, so I don't know. But this semi is just so weak, that his song is among better songs, if he was in 1st semi, chances to flop would actually be huge.

 

[Ana Raquel]

I had a dream last night of the qualifiers...maybe it’ll be one of those psychic dreams that predicts the future? Whenever I meditate before bed I always manage to remember my dreams super well, so I encourage you guys to try it lol!

Semi 1
Azerbaijan
Belgium
Czechia
Estonia
Bulgaria
Macedonia
Greece
Finland
Armenia
Cyprus
(Yup, that’s right! No Israel! I remember in my dream, writing a post on here about how Netta is the flop queen.)

Semi 2
Norway
Romania
Serbia
Denmark
Netherlands
Australia
Georgia
Slovenia
+ 2 more I can’t remember, but I do remember that Sweden was the shock NQ of this semi.

it has slovenia so i hope it's true already

 

[4815162342]

Even though I like , I won't be surprised if it flops, because there is lot of hate going on, and noone actually cares about the song. (objective opinion now, without joke and me being a police : it is not special, it is average, but still good and quality entry, I think there are lots of worse songs than this one, but I like it exactly because it is so relaxing, cool and not pretentious). But there was hate in the past two years also, but they did well, so I don't know. But this semi is just so weak, that his song is among better songs, if he was in 1st semi, chances to flop would actually be huge.

There is no way Sweden will flop if they are able to recreate the MF performance.

Maybe Melodifestivalen 2018 was weaker than in previous years, but it was still stronger than most other national finals. Someone who wins such a final with so much popularity amongst international juries will not fail in ESC.
With the current voting system, even Anna Bergendahl would have qualified on an 8th place in the semi. All the other 7 acts infront of her were Top 10 in the final. She was pretty unlucky having to compete in such a strong semi. Benjamins semi is too weak to make him struggle. I would be suprised if he won't be #1 with juries in the semi.

 

[ApEsc]

It is amazing how much this journey between each country and the participants are connected to each other, there is a lot of chemistry among the contestants, at least that's how it looks in pictures, videos, stories. It comes to a situation that even Neta and Saara from Finland, just joined and it seems that they were part of the group from day one.

 

[lolita]

There is no way Sweden will flop if they are able to recreate the MF performance.

Maybe Melodifestivalen 2018 was weaker than in previous years, but it was still stronger than most other national finals. Someone who wins such a final with so much popularity amongst international juries will not fail in ESC.
With the current voting system, even Anna Bergendahl would have qualified on an 8th place in the semi. All the other 7 acts infront of her were Top 10 in the final. She was pretty unlucky having to compete in such a strong semi. Benjamins semi is too weak to make him struggle. I would be suprised if he won't be #1 with juries in the semi.

Most of the time, I am pretty sure of it, but in some rare moments all this negativity going on takes me over. xcrossed

 

[Romeo]

Anyone know whether there will be a live stream of the Amsterdam show tonight?

 

[JonnyWest]

 

[lolita]

Woow, actually many people think that Norway would and should win. It is awful to think that someone should win just based ONLY on charisma and charm, but ok. :? X-OI

 

[Iker]

All true here. I mean it only if there is any purpose to use them properly. That Jamala's tree looked beautiful, coming with the song, and it served well to tell the story of Mans Zelmerlow's Heroes. It is true that many of contestants used them last year, without reason, like: " Oh, here is LED, we can use it, just some nonsense effect, or put our face on it, even if we don't need it, and it doesn't go well with the theme of the song! "

I agree ... some of these mentioned by you where amazing to witness (Sergey in 2016 defied the physics!) but on the other hand I am not sure whether it's definitely a good thing. I mean one could say that LED-ography dominated over the songs and that this is what counted the most for some making it easier to ignore the flaws or emptiness of your act. I know that ESC is about the TV show but at the end of the day it's called Eurovision Song Contest. I believe that you don't need them to give efficient visual presentation. But I also understand that it can enhance your performance and chances but also many participants can't really provide that as it can cost you lots of money. It has its advantages and disadvantages (some of these are conveniently overlooked for the sake of so-called entertainment).

I don't remember being bored before LED-screens entered into Eurovision personally. This is not the crux of the ESC for me. Those who are disaffected by that and sarcastically agitate for organizing the ESC on the radio show their narrow-mindedness and are drama queens - simpletons in my view.

 

[lolita]

I agree ... some of these mentioned by you where amazing to witness (Sergey in 2016 defied the physics!) but on the other hand I am not sure whether it's definitely a good thing. I mean one could say that LED-ography dominated over the songs and that this is what counted the most for some making it easier to ignore the flaws or emptiness of your act. I know that ESC is about the TV show but at the end of the day it's called Eurovision Song Contest. I believe that you don't need them to give efficient visual presentation. But I also understand that it can enhance your performance and chances but also many participants can't really provide that as it can cost you lots of money. It has its advantages and disadvantages (some of these are conveniently overlooked for the sake of so-called entertainment).

I don't remember being bored before LED-screens entered into Eurovision personally. This is not the crux of the ESC for me. Those who are disaffected by that and sarcastically agitate for organizing the ESC on the radio show their narrow-mindedness and are drama queens - simpletons in my view.

Yeah, I just think someone should have GREAT song and ALSO GREAT staging, that fits the song just, to tell the story, but it doesn't have to be LED for example, it could be really anything, like Salvador had those lights around him, it looked peaceful, emotional and magical, or when Serbia won, we had those hearts painted on the hands of main singer and backing vocalists, it was so minimalistic, but yet so effective. I just don't like when people are against LED's or anything because they are copying Salvador's quote, I mean, grow-up people, and have your own mind and statements.

 

[aef]

Today the hosts of ARD songcheck mentioned that an e-mail (?) with the amount/ gender of people on stage per each act was released?

 

[GermanBango]

Damn the stage looks massive