ESC 2012 FINAL DISCUSSION THREAD

[FallenAngelII]

Such a look down. How does it come to be a 3rd world country? Explain it. While all political and economical foundations show Azerbaijan as a developing country, how do you conclude it as undeveloped 3rd world country?

I specifically said Azerbaijan is a 3rd world country the same way Vietnam is a 3rd world country. The term "developing country" is synonymous to "third world" country.

Also, if we're going to be even more technical, the term "third world" is a misnomer in this regard. The "Third World Theory" was actually created in regards to Communism. In this theory, the United States and their military allies constituted the 1st world, the Soviet Union and the other Communist countries constituted the 2nd world and the non-aligned and neutral countries made up the 3rd world. In this theory, Azerbaijan would've been classified (back then) as the 2nd world.

However, it's pretty clear that the original poster is using the word "third world" to refer to "developing country". I will leave the discussion here since it's apparently against forum rules to discuss politics, so I've stuck to merely clarifying vocabulary.

 

[Farahim]

^ lol yeah "right" ...whatever

 

[wayneofway]

I specifically said Azerbaijan is a 3rd world country the same way Vietnam is a 3rd world country. The term "developing country" is synonymous to "third world" country.

Also, if we're going to be even more technical, the term "third world" is a misnomer in this regard. The "Third World Theory" was actually created in regards to Communism. In this theory, the United States and their military allies constituted the 1st world, the Soviet Union and the other Communist countries constituted the 2nd world and the non-aligned and neutral countries made up the 3rd world. In this theory, Azerbaijan would've been classified (back then) as the 2nd world.

However, it's pretty clear that the original poster is using the word "third world" to refer to "developing country". I will leave the discussion here since it's apparently against forum rules to discuss politics, so I've stuck to merely clarifying vocabulary.

Okay it seems you have been clearly mis-educated at this topic. Today, 3rd world country refers to undeveloped countries.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world.htm

The term "developing country" is synonymous to "third world" country..

A reference would be good to prove such a claim.

Anyway, no more politics.

Back to ESC. Yesterday Turkish newspapers wrote Loreen previously has been the back vocal of Turkish singer Aynur Aydın for one of her albums.

 

[LalehForWD]

Back to ESC. Yesterday Turkish newspapers wrote Loreen previously has been the back vocal of Turkish singer Aynur Aydın for one of her albums.

Aynur Aydın seem to have been in Stockholm this spring for some work (video?). So why not?

 

[CypriotGirl]

 

[LalehForWD]

The Gagas ft Babeen - Born this way

 

[EurovisionSmile]

Oh Lord!!

 

[Narmina]

^ shoot me plzzzz )))))))))))

 

[Mozz]

Since yesterday I see more and more statements about how juries and how televoters voted, in the chatbox. Have they already released the official data? If yes, could someone please post the links ASAP? Much appreciated! Probably like so many of you I would like to see how Europe has exactly voted....

 

[lolito]

THE UER hasen't released anything yet, I read the figures of audience shares for 20 countries, but not how the jury or people voted yet. That would be interesting to know. Anyone that comes across this info, please don't forget to let us know by posting a link here! Ta-ra!

 

[EurovisionSmile]

Since yesterday I see more and more statements about how juries and how televoters voted, in the chatbox. Have they already released the official data? If yes, could someone please post the links ASAP? Much appreciated! Probably like so many of you I would like to see how Europe has exactly voted....

I saw jury votes from Finland in the Portuguese eurovision website. I don't know about any other results from the juries :? I suppose we'll have to wait for them to come out very slowly...

 

[LapApe]

1 Sweden 372 - Deserving win I think. Great song.
2 Russia 259 - I know that the public love them, but seriously?
3 Serbia 214 - No surprise, great song, maybe a bit overrated
4 Azerbaijan 150 - Didn't expect this, thought it would get around 7-13. Good song though.
5 Albania 146 - The shock of the night. She is just screaming a boring song.
6 Estonia 120 - Great voice, nice guy, average song.
7 Turkey 112 - Wow he sang horribly this is just showing that Turkey gets top 10 on whatever they send
8 Germany 110 - Great song and voice, deserved
9 Italy 101 - Not a particular fan of this song, but I guess it deserved this spot
10 Spain 97 - Best performance of the night easily, should have won or gotten top 3.
11 Moldova 81 - Really catchy song, it being last really gave it an advantage
12 Romania 71 - Great song, quite underrated
12 Macedonia 71 - Never liked this song, but last night it surprised me, since her live was amazing.
14 Lithuania 70 - What? Very average song and singer.
15 Ukraine 65 - Expected place for this song, quite average.
15 Cyprus 65 - Love the song, but the singing was average last night. Maybe a bit on the underrated side.
17 Greece 64 - I expected this to be higher since it's Greece, but this was a pleasant surprise for me cause the song is average.
18 Bosnia-Herzegovina 55 - Expected, boring ballad.
19 Ireland 46 - Overrated
19 Iceland 46 - Defnietely the most underrated song. I absolutely love this song.
21 Malta 41 - Seriously average, deserved
22 France 21 - Again, average.
22 Denmark 21 - Good song, underrated
24 Hungary 19 - Average
25 Great Britain 12 - I know that people think that this is underrated, but this is simply not my kind of music, I think it's seriously boring.
26 Norway 7 - Yeah it's a ripoff of eric, but it still deserves more

So yeah, these are my thoughts of the results.

 

[issorus71]

1 Sweden 372 - Deserving win I think. Great song.
2 Russia 259 - I know that the public love them, but seriously?
3 Serbia 214 - No surprise, great song, maybe a bit overrated
4 Azerbaijan 150 - Didn't expect this, thought it would get around 7-13. Good song though.
5 Albania 146 - The shock of the night. She is just screaming a boring song.
6 Estonia 120 - Great voice, nice guy, average song.
7 Turkey 112 - Wow he sang horribly this is just showing that Turkey gets top 10 on whatever they send
8 Germany 110 - Great song and voice, deserved
9 Italy 101 - Not a particular fan of this song, but I guess it deserved this spot
10 Spain 97 - Best performance of the night easily, should have won or gotten top 3.
11 Moldova 81 - Really catchy song, it being last really gave it an advantage
12 Romania 71 - Great song, quite underrated
12 Macedonia 71 - Never liked this song, but last night it surprised me, since her live was amazing.
14 Lithuania 70 - What? Very average song and singer.
15 Ukraine 65 - Expected place for this song, quite average.
15 Cyprus 65 - Love the song, but the singing was average last night. Maybe a bit on the underrated side.
17 Greece 64 - I expected this to be higher since it's Greece, but this was a pleasant surprise for me cause the song is average.
18 Bosnia-Herzegovina 55 - Expected, boring ballad.
19 Ireland 46 - Overrated
19 Iceland 46 - Defnietely the most underrated song. I absolutely love this song.
21 Malta 41 - Seriously average, deserved
22 France 21 - Again, average.
22 Denmark 21 - Good song, underrated
24 Hungary 19 - Average
25 Great Britain 12 - I know that people think that this is underrated, but this is simply not my kind of music, I think it's seriously boring.
26 Norway 7 - Yeah it's a ripoff of eric, but it still deserves more

So yeah, these are my thoughts of the results.

Looks like you copied my thoughts of the finals. I couldn't agree more.

 

[CypriotGirl]

1 Sweden 372 - Deserving win I think. Great song.
2 Russia 259 - I know that the public love them, but seriously?
3 Serbia 214 - No surprise, great song, maybe a bit overrated
4 Azerbaijan 150 - Didn't expect this, thought it would get around 7-13. Good song though.
5 Albania 146 - The shock of the night. She is just screaming a boring song.
6 Estonia 120 - Great voice, nice guy, average song.
7 Turkey 112 - Wow he sang horribly this is just showing that Turkey gets top 10 on whatever they send
8 Germany 110 - Great song and voice, deserved
9 Italy 101 - Not a particular fan of this song, but I guess it deserved this spot
10 Spain 97 - Best performance of the night easily, should have won or gotten top 3.
11 Moldova 81 - Really catchy song, it being last really gave it an advantage
12 Romania 71 - Great song, quite underrated
12 Macedonia 71 - Never liked this song, but last night it surprised me, since her live was amazing.
14 Lithuania 70 - What? Very average song and singer.
15 Ukraine 65 - Expected place for this song, quite average.
15 Cyprus 65 - Love the song, but the singing was average last night. Maybe a bit on the underrated side.
17 Greece 64 - I expected this to be higher since it's Greece, but this was a pleasant surprise for me cause the song is average.
18 Bosnia-Herzegovina 55 - Expected, boring ballad.
19 Ireland 46 - Overrated
19 Iceland 46 - Defnietely the most underrated song. I absolutely love this song.
21 Malta 41 - Seriously average, deserved
22 France 21 - Again, average.
22 Denmark 21 - Good song, underrated
24 Hungary 19 - Average
25 Great Britain 12 - I know that people think that this is underrated, but this is simply not my kind of music, I think it's seriously boring.
26 Norway 7 - Yeah it's a ripoff of eric, but it still deserves more

So yeah, these are my thoughts of the results.

I totally agree with everything!

 

[Mozz]

^Look at this adorable sheep triplet!!!

 

[QwaarJet]

You seem to have an unnatural obsession with sheep.

 

[NemesisNick]

If I remember correctly, Italy was the only one to give Sweden nil points

Spot on Kristina, Italy was indeed the only country not to award Sweden any points.

18 countries gave Sweden 12 points: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Latvia, Norway, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, The Netherlands, United Kingdom.

22 other countries gave Sweden some other amount of points.

 

[LalehForWD]

 

[Farahim]

 

[daniels1000]

1 Sweden 372 - Deserving win I think. Great song.
2 Russia 259 - I know that the public love them, but seriously?
3 Serbia 214 - No surprise, great song, maybe a bit overrated
4 Azerbaijan 150 - Didn't expect this, thought it would get around 7-13. Good song though.
5 Albania 146 - The shock of the night. She is just screaming a boring song.
6 Estonia 120 - Great voice, nice guy, average song.
7 Turkey 112 - Wow he sang horribly this is just showing that Turkey gets top 10 on whatever they send
8 Germany 110 - Great song and voice, deserved
9 Italy 101 - Not a particular fan of this song, but I guess it deserved this spot
10 Spain 97 - Best performance of the night easily, should have won or gotten top 3.
11 Moldova 81 - Really catchy song, it being last really gave it an advantage
12 Romania 71 - Great song, quite underrated
12 Macedonia 71 - Never liked this song, but last night it surprised me, since her live was amazing.
14 Lithuania 70 - What? Very average song and singer.
15 Ukraine 65 - Expected place for this song, quite average.
15 Cyprus 65 - Love the song, but the singing was average last night. Maybe a bit on the underrated side.
17 Greece 64 - I expected this to be higher since it's Greece, but this was a pleasant surprise for me cause the song is average.
18 Bosnia-Herzegovina 55 - Expected, boring ballad.
19 Ireland 46 - Overrated
19 Iceland 46 - Defnietely the most underrated song. I absolutely love this song.
21 Malta 41 - Seriously average, deserved
22 France 21 - Again, average.
22 Denmark 21 - Good song, underrated
24 Hungary 19 - Average
25 Great Britain 12 - I know that people think that this is underrated, but this is simply not my kind of music, I think it's seriously boring.
26 Norway 7 - Yeah it's a ripoff of eric, but it still deserves more

So yeah, these are my thoughts of the results.

Wow,I agree with almost all,except :

- When I heard audience applause( no doubt,biggest applause this year ),I thought this will be in Top 5 for sure,and quite expected
- VERY VERY VERY OVERRATED
- VERY VERY VERY UNDERRATED
- it deserves place where it is.It's overrated just because it pass in final,he didn't deserve it.