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escYOUnited

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Tried to fix the broken pieces, now I'm leaving
But you made it loud and clear I’m not enough
Tried to fool me more than once to keep me dreaming
'Cause you knew the truth would tear us apart

If you pull me down then I'll come around
And rise up to come show you who I am
I feel fire inside, my heart’s desire
I'm breaking free from you

Tick-tock, watch the days go
I'm losing track of time
Lost in your playzone
Don't overcomplicate
Now we're in warzone
You're screaming, "Oh no, oh no, oh no"

Tick-tock, I'll take you dancing
In time wе might break
You think you're fancy
I play those gamеs my way and you’ll be beggin’
"Please baby, don't go, don’t go, don't go"

I hear those voices from far away
They help me to escape (Escape)
I found myself and I'm finally free from
Your bad love in every strength

Tick-tock, watch the days go
I'm losing track of time
Lost in your playzone
Don’t overcomplicate
Now we're in warzone
You're screaming, "Oh no, oh no, oh no"

Dancin', dancin'
Think you, think you fancy
Tick-tock
Don't go, don't go, don't go

I hear those voices from far away
They help me to escape (Escape)
I found myself and I'm finally free from
Your bad love in every strength

Tick-tock, vrijeme curi, gdje si više
Usne grizem, sama jedva dišem
Tick-tock vrijeme juri ne mogu više
Oh no, oh no

Tick-tock, I'll take you dancing
In time we might break
You think you're fancy
I play those games my way and you'll be beggin'
"Please baby, don't go, don't go, don't go"

Dancin', dancin'
Think you, think you fancy
Tick-tock
Don't go, don't go, don't go​
 
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@Euterpa the saddest part is that she's even turning on her own fans if they say anything she doesn't like. Those people are defending her but dare they imply that she wasn't the best or that the winning song is also good, she tells them to unfollow her. She's digging her own grave, and for what? She should have just sat there and ate her food and let her fans talk about how she was robbed and liked a few comments if she wanted to be shady, but no, she had to let the world know that she's the victim once more.
 

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@Euterpa the saddest part is that she's even turning on her own fans if they say anything she doesn't like. Those people are defending her but dare they imply that she wasn't the best or that the winning song is also good, she tells them to unfollow her. She's digging her own grave, and for what? She should have just sat there and ate her food and let her fans talk about how she was robbed and liked a few comments if she wanted to be shady, but no, she had to let the world know that she's the victim once more.
i gotta thank u for opening my eyes about this whole situation. we still don't know if juries were rigged but this doesn't matter. even tho rijeka was the best song and the song with the biggest potential (in my humble opinion), i don't want artists like nina in esc. i'll keep following her carrer but that's it. i don't want toxicity in eurovision

im rlly sorry for nina's behavior..
 

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In Nina's defence, I think that putting the runaway odds favourite to go sing first truly isn't 100% correct. The broadcaster isn't completely innocent, you just don't do that in a NF with 14 acts!
On the other hand, 'I lost so it's rigged' storylines are so 2020 and toxic... :( It would just be the best for her to simply move on.
 

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@Euterpa the saddest part is that she's even turning on her own fans if they say anything she doesn't like. Those people are defending her but dare they imply that she wasn't the best or that the winning song is also good, she tells them to unfollow her. She's digging her own grave, and for what? She should have just sat there and ate her food and let her fans talk about how she was robbed and liked a few comments if she wanted to be shady, but no, she had to let the world know that she's the victim once more.
Exactly. She's losing the support of many people who actually voted for her. She thinks honesty is her biggest virtue, but fails to realize that there is a good and a bad way to express what you think. It is possible to express a negative opinion and stay classy and polite.
 

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i gotta thank u for opening my eyes about this whole situation. we still don't know if juries were rigged but this doesn't matter. even tho rijeka was the best song and the song with the biggest potential (in my humble opinion), i don't want artists like nina in esc. i'll keep following her carrer but that's it. i don't want toxicity in eurovision

im rlly sorry for nina's behavior..

Yeah, although that's quite subjective, for example I didn't agree her song has the biggest potential. I'm just not a big fan of ethno + this wouldn't be the first time for Croatia to send that sound. I did like the first part of the song though, the part that was in the snippet...but then as the song progressed, something didn't feel right. It all felt disconnected to me.

Nina also proved to us that she can ruin an amazing song with her staging and trying too hard to sound differently. I thought ESC 2016 was just poor luck, I was feeling sorry for her that they gave her that ugly dress, she was blaming the designer for that catastrophe...and then she came to Dora in a dress that's basically in the same style as that one from 2016!? Huge dress, with feathers and all? If that's her style, then the designer did a wonderful job. It's also funny how that same designer was good enough for Rita Ora, Lizzo, Cardi B, etc., but working with Nina turned out to be a disaster. It's all starting to look like Nina is just a hard person to work with. In any case, she has SO MUCH potential, it's really sad that it's come to this...
 

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Speaking of Nina's career, she has just released a new album, so could it be that she's making up all this drama only to draw attention to it?
 

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I haven't really taken to "Tick-Tock". It just seems a bit run-of-the-mill. I'm hearing a lot of people saying it's "a little bit 80s", but as a devout 80s geek, I just don't hear it.

Prior to Saturday night, I was really up for Ella Orešković, as she has a cracking voice and THAT had a proper 80s vibe to it. But WOW, it was a disaster.

I still think there was something more than meets the eye about it though. It really looked like something funny had gone on. A brilliant track, completely ruined by a complete lack of staging and performance. It was like they had just thrown all staging and choreography out the window, and she just went out and strolled about the stage and sang - ie. phoning it in.

Watch it back again and again, especially in the pauses between her lines. She actually just turns away ... it's like she wasn't bothered, as if it was a rehearsal.

I saw some responses saying that she was nervous, but I don't buy that as an excuse for how disastrous it was. Even if performing live was making her nervous, it would still be normal to go through all the choreography and steps, albeit nervously. However, there was no choreography here to see. No camera marks to hit - nothing.

It was the complete lack of choreography that made me think there's more to it than just nerves. I realy think something happened behind the scenes. Such a shame, coz I thought it was a really good song.
 

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I don’t know, rigging Dora makes no sense to me.
It is not a classical festival that has it’s own value like San Remo or something, Dora is made up just for purpose of sending something to esc.
Well, HRT, like everyone else, doesn’t have to do that at all, they can choose internally. So why bother with contest? Media coverage and publicity for everyone? Here? No. Our music market is not that interesting or big or whatever.

HRT sucks on many (or all) levels but I don’t see the point of something like that.

Also, as is obvious in our social media, Nina wasn’t a big favorite, especially after the performance. The support just wasn’t there.
I also found that performance flawed and even during the act figured it wouldn’t work.
 

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HRT sucks on many (or all) levels but I don’t see the point of something like that.

Also, as is obvious in our social media, Nina wasn’t a big favorite, especially after the performance. The support just wasn’t there.
I also found that performance flawed and even during the act figured it wouldn’t work.

Case in point: Alen Vitasović used to be the loudest "Dora is rigged" contestant and he also said "I will never participate in Dora again!!". That's the same artist who is holding a record in times an artist competed in Dora - 8 times. Jacques right behind him with 7 times.

I posted here just one day before Dora that Nina is leading all eurofan polls, but on two biggest Croatian web portals, she was 3rd and 4th. If we're judging by that, then her 2nd place is an awesome placing. And you're right, especially after that flawed performance, staging disconnected from the song, her missing some notes and singing turning into yelling at one point. She only has herself to blame.
 
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Nina's loss was unfortunate but totally explicable for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with NF rigging. It was just too left-of-the-dial musically and performance-wise for one of the most risk-averse NF audiences in Europe. The deck was stacked against her, but it was stacked by "animal spirits" not by HRT. To assert that HRT itself stacked the deck is divorced from reality.

EDITED to fix an unfortunate implication!
 
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Well, HRT, like everyone else, doesn’t have to do that at all, they can choose internally. So why bother with contest? Media coverage and publicity for everyone? Here? No. Our music market is not that interesting or big or whatever.

Probably as a study of hosting their own Eurovision? It's not perfect, and according to you is not that necessary, but the effort and spirit is there. As an outsider I'd say DORA has improved on many sections in a span of three years, and if the momentum is there DORA is probably staying for good. In comparison, we'll put Albania which does not have that big of a music industry, but have two televised local festival.
 

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I just checked Instagram stories of Nina's dancers and LOL at them ignoring Nina. The male dancer posted:

"Thank you guys for this 6 beautiful Opatija days and new friendships and a wonderfully spent time! Dora 2021 is killing it!"

In the story, he tagged Filip Rudan, Ella Orešković, Eric, Eric's manager, Albina, Brigita, a few other people - but not Nina. He also posted a selfie with Albina and in the pic of Albina's performance he wrote "Well done, guys!"

Nina is also nowhere to be found on her female dancer's stories.

BUT, let's also talk about the winner. Albina seems like such a nice, kind and unspoiled soul. She's been humble in all of her TV appearings so far and she just keeps smiling and radiating positivity. She said that they will work on the song further, try to improve everything they can, that they will sit down and discuss all possible options. It seems like the only certain thing is that the Dora choreography will not stay the same.
 

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@Euterpa he was one of the first people to congratulate Albina, I saw him going up to her in the live coverage and he just seems like a really pleasant, polite guy.
Same with Mia, she was happy about her placement, congratulated the winner, said the competition was really hard this year, complimented everybody and only said that the issues with voting need to be fixed because the lines were not going through for everybody, and that it's unacceptable at a show of that level to have such horrible technical issues. She's right. That's how you respond to losing, not whatever is Nina doing.
Albina comes across as smart, pleasant and well-spoken in her interview, she's a joy to look at, just a lovely girl overall.
 

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Nina is not stopping. In a new FB post, she says that people who think this was about her not winning missed the point. "I have my wins, I got a reward for the biggest 'Slavic hope' from the president of Belarus and the Ministry of Culture, those wins are more important to me".

She again repeated that she stands behind her claim that only Bernarda, Mia and ToMa were better than her. "I don't like the song tik tok and that's it". She can't even spell the name of the song correctly. "If I wanted to do mainstream pop, I'd behave differently", she added.

She just truly believes she is showing us the best part of herself, the whole FB post is about her being honest and saying how it is, uncensored.

FB post in question: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=275392573946061&set=a.254592116026107
 

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Nina is not stopping. In a new FB post, she says that people who think this was about her not winning missed the point. "I have my wins, I got a reward for the biggest 'Slavic hope' from the president of Belarus and the Ministry of Culture, those wins are more important to me".

She again repeated that she stands behind her claim that only Bernarda, Mia and ToMa were better than her. "I don't like the song tik tok and that's it". She can't even spell the name of the song correctly. "If I wanted to do mainstream pop, I'd behave differently", she added.

She just truly believes she is showing us the best part of herself, the whole FB post is about her being honest and saying how it is, uncensored.

FB post in question: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=275392573946061&set=a.254592116026107

This is a nail-in-a-coffin for her participation. She is BITTER.
 

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It's weird how much of Nina's poison is directly or indirectly aimed at Albina, and not the television house she's claiming to be calling out. She made herself look like her anger is all due to jealousy and bitterness, but she's desperately trying to pass it off as something else. Why is she doing this to her career?
Years ago she was competing in another singing competition Supertalent and she was shading that television house and show afterwards. She's always claiming that she's being sabotaged and/or molded into something that she's not, but she's such an individual that she refuses (but is actually giving off the 'not like the other girls' vibe so much instead, which is sad because she is an individual and artist but she's too messy for her own good).
Then she won the Voice and HRT chose her as our representative at Eurovision without holding a competition, and she had so much drama behind the scenes then as well. She's throwing shade left and right and has been like this for years. It's hard to support her when she's constantly shooting herself in the foot. Her music is great. Her performances are usually great. Everything else about her leaves a lot to be desired, like her behavior and inability to lose gracefully.
 

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It's weird how much of Nina's poison is directly or indirectly aimed at Albina, and not the television house she's claiming to be calling out. She made herself look like her anger is all due to jealousy and bitterness, but she's desperately trying to pass it off as something else. Why is she doing this to her career?
Years ago she was competing in another singing competition Supertalent and she was shading that television house and show afterwards. She's always claiming that she's being sabotaged and/or molded into something that she's not, but she's such an individual that she refuses (but is actually giving off the 'not like the other girls' vibe so much instead, which is sad because she is an individual and artist but she's too messy for her own good).
Then she won the Voice and HRT chose her as our representative at Eurovision without holding a competition, and she had so much drama behind the scenes then as well. She's throwing shade left and right and has been like this for years. It's hard to support her when she's constantly shooting herself in the foot. Her music is great. Her performances are usually great. Everything else about her leaves a lot to be desired, like her behavior and inability to lose gracefully.
That's just sad. Rijeka would have been my TOP1 of all eurovision songs we've heard since Zlata.
 
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