Cheating in Eurovision voting

[LalehForWD]

The whole thread is about this video which is apparently a fixed one created in order to damage Azerbaijan's reputation.

I'm bound to believe you. I can't see any success in the methodology these guys are discussing. Pathetic! However, a skilled hacker could do wonders in these matters.

 

[Sultana]

It seems that this year there are a lot of things which org wanted to cover
meh, voting should be CLEAR

 

[Galandar]

Funny part is that Azerbaijan bribed the jury (and by the way we are shitty hosts? At least this time the audience is not 3 km away from the stage and the audience is not zombiefied and hosts that has no better joke than '' what do you work with? I could never guess! '' you could hear everyone laugh so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111oneoneone

How did Denmark cheat? I voted for them and I bet a lote of people did

Another ridiculous comment. Any proofs that Azerbaijan bribed the jury? If not then better shut up!

I was in the Crystal Hall and it was a great atmosphere in there. As for zombified or not, we were hosting ESC and not imitating MF in the arena as twice as smaller than Crystal Hall.

The funny parts along with postcards were the only positive thing about ESC 2013. Organization was as shitty as hell and that is not all about my personal opinion. The fact that you named the winner before the last 4 countries casted their votes is more than enough to show Sweden's disgrace.

I am sorry for saying all this now but you left me no other option rather than to remind your what is what.

 

[DannyDS]

Another ridiculous comment. Any proofs that Azerbaijan bribed the jury? If not then better shut up!

I was in the Crystal Hall and it was a great atmosphere in there. As for zombified or not, we were hosting ESC and not imitating MF in the arena as twice as smaller than Crystal Hall.

The funny parts along with postcards were the only positive thing about ESC 2013. Organization was as shitty as hell and that is not all about my personal opinion. The fact that you named the winner before the last 4 countries casted their votes is more than enough to show Sweden's disgrace.

That was really disrespectful, indeed.

A couple of friend were there, and they thought the voting was over so they left.

Seriously, WAY TO GO SWEDEN.

 

[FallenAngelII]

I love how some in here try defend fraud and cheating in ESC because they either like the song and/-or comes from that country.

Fraud is never ok in any shape or form! Self-criticism is a good thing.

No one is defending fraud. We're saying there's no solid evidence of fraud.

Uppgifter om Azerbajdzjan i Eurovision:
We even have the video here! Don't you think its weird that Azerbaijan has only not been in the top 5 in 5 years?
Do you have any evidence that Azerbaijan did not cheat?

People defending Azerbaijanic cheating is just an evidence for diaspora voting

You claimed Azerbaijan had attempted to bribe juries. That article is a badly sourced and very suspicious article claiming Azerbaijsn tried ti buy televotes.

You're as illogical ever. Because we don't have evidence tvat Azerbaijan didn't cheat, that proves that they did? You can't prove a negative.

Also, apparently, like A-Lister, you're illiterate because no one is defending cheating i. This thread.

I don't know what they are doing but here a video with English subtitles.

Eurovision 2013 Scandal! This is how Azerbaijan gets its votes. - YouTube

Because if you're gonna cheat, you'll do it in the stupidest way imaginable and then blab all about it, in great detail, to any perfect stranger who starts asking you questions. That video is clearly staged.

(I'n too lazy to correct all of the mistakes. Just typing this all out on my iPhone has been a chore.)

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Another ridiculous comment. Any proofs that Azerbaijan bribed the jury? If not then better shut up!

I was in the Crystal Hall and it was a great atmosphere in there. As for zombified or not, we were hosting ESC and not imitating MF in the arena as twice as smaller than Crystal Hall.

The funny parts along with postcards were the only positive thing about ESC 2013. Organization was as shitty as hell and that is not all about my personal opinion. The fact that you named the winner before the last 4 countries casted their votes is more than enough to show Sweden's disgrace.

Seriously, just because you have a bigger arena does not mean that it was a better show, it was actually just to much. And your postcards '' Azerbaijan - land of snow '' yeah! Thats what im thinking about when I hear Azerbaijan, SNOW! And you guys even had propaganda in your postcards as you had Karabakh in it. How about the time when those who voted for Armenia got arrested? And this video where you buy votes?

And obviously, bigger is not always better

 

[GermanBango]

Gosh KIDS would you please stop this stupid discussion! Everyone has his or her own opinnion! I don't really get the hate here .... disgusting!

 

[FilipFromSweden]

You claimed Azerbaijan had attempted to bribe juries. That article is a badly sourced and very suspicious article claiming Azerbaijsn tried ti buy televotes.

You're as illogical ever. Because we don't have evidence tvat Azerbaijan didn't cheat, that proves that they did? You can't prove a negative.

Also, apparently, like A-Lister, you're illiterate because no one is defending cheating i. This thread.


Whenever there is evidence '' you can't trust it '' please, how would it be if (as you said they don't) they did cheat? Would they just scream it out or what?
You say this video is fake but how would it be if it was not fake?

 

[DannyDS]

I think it's time for the mods to close this thread before things get out of hand.

Stop hating.

 

[PashonFrut]

Gosh KIDS would you please stop this stupid discussion! Everyone has his or her own opinnion! I don't really get the hate here .... disgusting!

Eurovision season is over. Everybody is bored

 

[FallenAngelII]

"If you can't prove they're innocent, they're huilty! Any evidence even clearly fake evidence, is evidence!".

You're not even acknowledging that you erroneously claimed there's proof Azerbaijan bribed juries. Same old, same old. No credibility. Taking no responsibility. And no sanity.

 

[Galandar]

Seriously, just because you have a bigger arena does not mean that it was a better show, it was actually just to much. And your postcards '' Azerbaijan - land of snow '' yeah! Thats what im thinking about when I hear Azerbaijan, SNOW! And you guys even had propaganda in your postcards as you had Karabakh in it. How about the time when those who voted for Armenia got arrested? And this video where you buy votes?

And obviously, bigger is not always better

That was up to us to decide what to show in our postcards and yes, we showed Azerbaijan, including some our regions like Lankaran, Gabala, Nakchivan as well as Karabakh which is a part of Azerbaijan, under occupation but still an internationally recognized part of Azerbaijan. We are a less known country so I see no problem but praising what we did.

Nobody was arrested!!! I am fed up with repeating it. There were about 50 people who voted for Armenia in 2009 and none of them was arrested and only one claimed that he was interrogated. Apparently he had some other issues at police and then this trick with voting for Armenia was kind of an excuse of him. I personally know one guy who voted for Armenia in 2009 and nobody cared about it.

 

[Trece]

If there was cheating this year - then in favor of Denmark. with exYu and exUSSR countries. Never can happen that Russia gave only 1 point Ukraine with so strong entry, Azerbaijan didn't gave ANY points Russia (when half of country voted for Russia) with also strong entry. Or a mystery with and votes difference...

I had so BIG hopes for Sweden, through it will beat all hostings and became the best ever, but i should say that only great thing in Swedish hosting was interval act Loreen :?

 

[Yamarus]

I also thought it was extremely curious that all ex-Yugoslavia seemed to vote for Denmark instead of Azerbaijan or Ukraine.

 

[LalehForWD]

I think it's time for the mods to close this thread before things get out of hand.

Stop hating.

WOW! Danny! 33

 

[FilipFromSweden]

That was up to us to decide what to show in our postcards and yes, we showed Azerbaijan, including some our regions like Lankaran, Gabala, Nakchivan as well as Karabakh which is a part of Azerbaijan, under occupation but still an internationally recognized part of Azerbaijan whereas your country is not an expection, Sweden also recognized Azerbaijan's territorial integrity. We are a less known country so I see no problem but praise what we did.

Nobody was arrested!!! I am fed up with repeating it. There were about 50 people who voted for Armenia in 2009 and none of them was arrested and only one claimed that he was interrogated. Apparently he had some other issues at police and then this trick with voting for Armenia was kind of an excuse of him. I personally know one guy who voted for Armenia in 2009 and nobody cared about it.

Still pretty fake postcards, they were bad and you showed the same stuff in about 25 % of all.
Oh, so 46 people was arrested and their excuse was '' we voted for armenia! '' yeah, right.

 

[Trece]

I also thought it was extremely curious that all ex-Yugoslavia seemed to vote for Denmark instead of Azerbaijan or Ukraine.

i don't remember who, but someone said after semifinals results that its obvious that all exYu were eleminated from Final that they gave their points to other countries in final, not exYu... and thery votes went to..... Denmark. WOW! How unpredictable!!! Sweden couldn't even image that ESC will not go far away, and after all just 30 km

 

[FallenAngelII]

I also thought it was extremely curious that all ex-Yugoslavia seemed to vote for Denmark instead of Azerbaijan or Ukraine.

I noticed that as well. I can't help but think the results would've been much different if some ex-Yugoslavisn countries had made the final and/or Ukraine hadn't sent such a strong song. Azerbaijan likely would've won then.

 

[FallenAngelII]

Oh, so 46 people was arrested and their excuse was '' we voted for armenia! '' yeah, right.

Source?

 

[Galandar]

Still pretty fake postcards, they were bad and you showed the same stuff in about 25 % of all.
Oh, so 46 people was arrested and their excuse was '' we voted for armenia! '' yeah, right.