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I agree but if I was an artist I would probably do my homework about this thing honestly, it carries similar emotional values with the Nazi flag and everyone knows better than wearing a shirt with that flag. But yeah, unless you educate yourself about the matter, you can be pretty ignorant to the damage it causes.

I completely agree with you but "to be fair", the Nazi flag has been taught/showed up at school several times. Nazi Germany did effect the whole continent, the world whilst the "confederate flag" did have a limited effect (geographically speaking).

Tbh, I have never talked about/been taught about the meaning of the confederate flag at all.. neither at school nor at university (and I had English as a major subject and I study that language at university).
I just "learnt" about this flag thanks to American tv shows. I think that the awareness of what the flag actually means might be even more limited in Ex-Soviet states (but that's just my assumption, of course).
 

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I agree but if I was an artist I would probably do my homework about this thing honestly, it carries similar emotional values with the Nazi flag and everyone knows better than wearing a shirt with that flag. But yeah, unless you educate yourself about the matter, you can be pretty ignorant to the damage it causes.

We can’t all be Geeks :mrgreen:
 

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I was wrong, forget i said that. But it gets even funnier. There are two videos on yt, one uploaded from Kazna and the other is from feathery. And the same pathetic user is bitching on both xrofl

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This person, is it a person or is it a bot (don't know), copy-pastes the exact same text all over Youtube, no matter where Braids appears.
 

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"Sugar Balls" is a choice (love the arrangement, though) - not going to comment on "Don't Count Me Out" which is like the epitome of a musical apocalypse.
 

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And about Kazna and the confederate flag, yes she had no idea of the so significant meaning of that flag in America (as someone mentioned, that flag did not have the geographic impact the Nazi flag has. If you show the Nazi flag to 10 people around the world, all 10 will know what it is. Show that confederate flag to 10 people around the world, maybe 2 will know what it is). Anyway, she deleted that post and even apologized. She didn't know what it meant, since they don't teach American history in Eastern Europe, but since it offended some people, she apologized. Not even that is enough for them though...
 

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And about Kazna and the confederate flag, yes she had no idea of the so significant meaning of that flag in America (as someone mentioned, that flag did not have the geographic impact the Nazi flag has. If you show the Nazi flag to 10 people around the world, all 10 will know what it is. Show that confederate flag to 10 people around the world, maybe 2 will know what it is). Anyway, she deleted that post and even apologized. She didn't know what it meant, since they don't teach American history in Eastern Europe, but since it offended some people, she apologized. Not even that is enough for them though...

She did the right thing and tbh, we all learn from our mistakes... It sucks, man, like seriously, people get offended by everything now. Kazna wearing braids is some sort of her image/personality/she genuinely likes wearing them and it's disgusting that some bots or angry people make her feel bad about it.
I hope she will find the strength to simply not listen to these people. They are in the MINORITY and have too much time on their hands.

She looks great, her live performance was energetic and she has a bop ready to be performed on a big stage.
 

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She did the right thing and tbh, we all learn from our mistakes... It sucks, man, like seriously, people get offended by everything now. Kazna wearing braids is some sort of her image/personality/she genuinely likes wearing them and it's disgusting that some bots or angry people make her feel bad about it.
I hope she will find the strength to simply not listen to these people. They are in the MINORITY and have too much time on their hands.

She looks great, her live performance was energetic and she has a bop ready to be performed on a big stage.
Thank you! Yes, I keep telling her to ignore such idiotic messages every day and to just focus on the positive ones. As you said, they are in the minority and what they do even has one good thing, they promote our song :LOL:
 

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Getting hate messages is probably an usual thing for NF favourites, the community for all its spark and glamour it can be very toxic sometimes.
 

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The whole drag culture and most of "gay slang" derive from black gay culture. Her being a drag queen is cultural appropriation (according to her own definitions).

Such people are the reason why I don't use Twitter. Delusional and effing annoying.
Especially as a Youtuber words, political stances, etc. should be taken with more caution. Ok, if you have a channel that only targets a specific demographic, then you can express whatever you desire, but when your audience and your content is related to a contest such as Eurovision, then yes, you should be more mature in the position you take, cautious with your words and respect who your audience are. I am 100% sure that not all of Maxxy's subscribers share her opinion.
 

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Getting hate messages is probably an usual thing for NF favourites, the community for all its spark and glamour it can be very toxic sometimes.
Oh definitely, it's normal, but not to that degree... This is even going as far as personally attacking an artist and the songwriters. This is legit terror and racism!
 

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She/They (don't know what pronoun this person goes by) is borderline annoying to be honest. Maybe there is a good reason why the contest doesn't allow Americans or people from the USA to be involved. I would imagine every single thing will trigger their own snowflake feelings just because they live in their own bubble in general and like everything to be politically correct. #justsaying
 

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She/They (don't know what pronoun this person goes by) is borderline annoying to be honest. Maybe there is a good reason why the contest doesn't allow Americans or people from the USA to be involved. I would imagine every single thing will trigger their own snowflake feelings just because they live in their own bubble in general and like everything to be politically correct. #justsaying


yes lowkey this is number one reason why I don't want them.. It would turn into a political correctness contest.
 

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I'm stunned how some people - without having ANY evidence - claim to speak about what the "majority" of Fans think or feel. Same thing with Vincent Bueno last year. Basically one user - whom we all know - led a personal crusade and then claimed it was all the fandom. These people should really step down from their tower of arrogance.
 

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The funny thing is that it's all coming from white people, no black person we showed this song and performance too felt offended. They loved the song, the energy, the braids, they just love it!

Deban was even one of the first people to hear this song, since we are friends, I always send him a new Eurovision release of mine. He mentioned absolutely nothing these people on Twitter claim...
 
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