Austria AUSTRIA 2020 - Vincent - Alive

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[MalagaToledo]

Well, according to twitter fandom, it seems nobody believed him, esp cause he used I have a gay cousin and gay colleagues and that's why i could never be a homophobe. Also, his reasoning gays are funny and I worked in theater seem not to help his case. Its like saying I can not be a dog hater, people across me have dogs. But those insta storries were so unnecessary. Nevertheless, I wish him luck, cause I still don't believe he has chances to qualify. Let's pray that he is the only one surrounded with controversy in 2020.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heute_(österreichische_Zeitung)

Heute is the biggest free newspaper in Austria and with 13% the 2nd most read daily newspaper in Austria (only behind kronen Zeitung).

 

[MalagaToledo]

Imagine sending this to esc this year. It would be such a nice contrast to Austrian rep. And it would be her 2nd victory.

https://youtu.be/GydVqOvMphE

 

[Lindon]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heute_(österreichische_Zeitung)

Heute is the biggest free newspaper in Austria and with 13% the 2nd most read daily newspaper in Austria (only behind kronen Zeitung).

and they retracted the article in question.

 

[MalagaToledo]

and they retracted the article in question.

They retracted it because:
1. They don't want to drag their own repr. After all, u all wish him the best result whether u like him or no. Just like when Conchita haters were happy that she brought home esc. Its called patriotism..

2. Orf, Austrian Ministery of arts, police got their fingers in it. They "politely requested" heute to delete the article so no external things can influence his performance so he can focus just on singing.

3. If he wrongfully acused for defamation, he would have fight it on court, win the case and be a millionaire. Or he just doesn't care for his reputation.

He still has articles from heute on his insta acc.

5. His reasonings didn't help him yesterday..

6. Instead of answering question, yes I said it. I said it BECAUSE
No, I didn't say it. I didn't sue them Because... He was more focused on I Could never be a homophobe because distant relative of mine happens to be gay and was more focused on bashing m_ username. He was very defensive..

 

[Lindon]

Livin' in this world 'be a little too much
Don't let it get you down
Get up and strut

If you ever get the chance
Hold your hand out and take it
Make a promise to yourself
Don't you break it

I tried to get up when I was upside down
'got to find a way to turn my life around

This is the time for us to Get A Life
Open your mind to a better life
There's no way of knowing
Where you're going
Get A Life - a better life

Go outta your way
And make some compromise
Hold on to your dreams
And you will realize
If you don't understand it
Don't take it for granted
Open your mind to a better life

Let's turn up the heat
Start a ripple in the water
Wake the soul from its sleep
No particular order

'Could be wasting precious time
Free the mind are you willing
Don't be afraid
Do your dance and start living
I've got a vision in mind
I'm doing my time
I'm livin' my life
'cause I've opened my mind

 

[BorisBubbles]

Re: Vincent. None of the editorial team even posted a related article in the fbook group - a sign that none of us recognize this as relevant news we should be covering. I agree. We have better things to do than sling mud at contestants - at least wait after they've revealed their song. :eyes

My personal 2c on the matter - not like anyone is asking but you're out of luck, I AM airing my mediocre libertarian thoughts anyway - Expressing that you would rather have heterosexual children is inherently homophobic - the statement amounts to "I would rather not have a non-heterosexual child". That is, by the strictest definition, a very *very* mild form of homophobia.

However, I don't hold it against Vincent for feeling that way. Not a single set of (heterosexual) parents that I know were like "WOW I defo WANT a gay kid!!", including mine who have repeatedly expressed a desire for grandchildren and the only child they have spawned is a gay 14-going-30 manchild WHOOPS looks like that family name is truly dying out, huh?. However, so what?

It's easy to mince stupid words which can be easily taken from their native context and blown out of proportion. Words are, well, words. They don't hold value compared to actions. I see no malice reading between the lines of the articles I've read on the matter (similar to the idiots that still try to paint Måns as a worthless homophobic piece of shit - give it a fuckin' rest). Behaviour and the intention behind the behaviour is what I try to judge by (and we should judge! People who tell you not to judge are often the most judgmental humans around, so safely discard their false wisdoms) and not some stupid-ass comment somebody made on the innerwebs.

Anyway, this is all going to be a fuss for nothing because when Austria reveal whatever insipid IMRI-esque slutpop they've decided to fatigue us with, everyone will be ignoring it anyway :-) Except for the Austrian cultists, ofc.

 

[Ezio]

Anyway, this is all going to be a fuss for nothing because when Austria reveal whatever insipid IMRI-esque slutpop they've decided to fatigue us with, everyone will be ignoring it anyway :-) Except for the Austrian cultists, ofc.

I‘ll join you equally fatigued then Bye Autriche bye.BTW. My drag name would be Audrey Chienne

 

[MalagaToledo]

OK, putting aside his victim card play and copy paste of mz apology. It's like he had been watching some examples of previous phobes who apologised. Mz also said, it was misunderstanding, I hosted gay gala, I have a lot of friends who are gay, tkey know that I am not a homophobe. Or is it just a standard form of apology for every homophobe. Again, he only made things worse with this forced, actually it wasnt even an apology. He was just defensive, ignoring the core, fundamental point of this story.

But there is one positive thing abt him. He doesn't speak English bad at all. I'm quite impressed. I mean I've seen esc reps bringing ppl who translate everything for them, mostly from Russia, Armenia even this year we had singers who don't speak English. And last, but not least he is the certain NQ and u have to love that.

 

[Mrm]

[MENTION=16696]MalagaToledo[/MENTION]

Do you spend some time outside this thread?

 

[Ezio]

 

[Lindon]

I tried to translate parts of an interview with the newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" as far as it is possible with my modest English skills.


https://www.nachrichten.at/kultur/wenn-es-schiefgeht-wirst-du-gekreuzigt;art16,3199790#ref=rss

Q: The ESC can be a career boost - or the end of it.

Vincent Bueno:
I'm not afraid of failure. It's like this: From the moment you are on TV, you are celebrated. If something goes wrong, you will be crucified. It doesn't hurt me. There are much more important things in life. I'm very grounded in that regard.

Q:
You were a background singer for Nathan Trent at the ESC in 2017 - what insights did you gain from this?

Vincent Bueno:
It was like a school-trip for me. I think the time in Kiev was breathtaking and fantastic. I was on the big stage and for a short moment I was very happy that I didn't have to carry the whole thing and only had to be in the background.

Q:
You have already won a competition with the ORF format "Musical! Die Show". How did this win affect your career?

Vincent Bueno:
I was 21 at the time and was super hyped in the moment. I didn't know how to deal with it. Accordingly, I have had many highs and lows. It has been a great trip and to this day I can say that I can make a very good living from it. I love both worlds - to be on stage as a singer and in musical theatre.

Q:
Can one see you currently in a musical theatre production?

Vincent Bueno:
From February on I will play in "Rock My Soul" at the Vienna Metropol Theatre. After that there will be a Musical in Vienna, of which I am not allowed to reveal anything yet.

Q:
You were born and raised in Vienna and have Filipino roots - how important is your origin to you?

Vincent Bueno:
It is important to me not to forget my roots. When I speak with my father, it's always in Tagalog (Filipino, note) because he doesn't speak German very well. My mother speaks like a Viennese. A little Philippina in Viennese, that sounds interesting.

Q:
Your life was not always easy, a few years ago you and your wife lost a daughter shortly after birth.

Vincent Bueno:
We were very open about it. It was an important time for me to process this story together with my wife. A year ago we got our rainbow child. (It means babies, who were born after stillbirth or miscarriage, note).

wikipedia.Rainbow_baby

A rainbow baby is a term for a child born to a couple who have previously lost a child due to miscarriage, stillbirth or death during infancy. These subsequent pregnancies can bring "strong feelings of anxiety, guilt, and even fear" but also "immense joy, reflection, healing, and mixed emotions".

 

[MalagaToledo]

I wouldn't be surprised if he would use a rainbow background like Jacques houdek did it when he was competing . lollll

 

[Lindon]

You should be ashamed of disparaging a grieving father.

 

[MalagaToledo]

Is that make up he was wearing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfBhd0jnoIM/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Una pregunta para los todos.. Is there anyone here who thinks bueno is an attractive middle aged man?

Last night I dreamt about Vincent bueno performing at sf. And while he was performing, the audience booed at him and threw tomato at him and he went crying in the dressing room. He was given the opportunity to sing one more time cause apparently people have ran out of tomato supplies, but he didn't want to and his performance had more views than one of the winners and because of that he became a meme. What does that even mean.

 

[Lindon]

I could tell you exactly what that means, but the board rules don't allow me.

 

[MalagaToledo]

Omg, I can't wait till March to go on YouTube and give a big old dislike for his song.

 

[Daybreak]

Omg, I can't wait till March to go on YouTube and give a big old dislike for his song.

Must be a pretty boring life then

 

[Ezio]

Must be a pretty boring life then

For sure. Why else would she keep this thread ALIVE

 

[Sammy]

didn‘t know that dislikes could be old the very moment they are given

 

[Lindon]

I have always been fascinated by news programs from other countries and have just found this old report from Filipino television from 2008:

A Filipino diaspora vote?
For instance

Wikipedia Filipinos_in_the_United_Kingdom