Australia AUSTRALIA 2019 - Kate Miller-Heidke - Zero Gravity

[RainyWoods]

Re: AUSTRALIA 2019

A National Final for Australia I think could be very interesting if only they make it diverse. I really want to see the different sides of a country that has a very interesting music industry. The Australian entries so far have been so nondescript. Hopefully this years result will be taken as an eyeopener. It's ok to take risks. And i'm ok with more pop. Just get out of that cookie cutter factory please, if just for one year at least.

 

[tuorem]

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A National Final for Australia I think could be very interesting if only they make it diverse. I really want to see the different sides of a country that has a very interesting music industry. The Australian entries so far have been so nondescript. Hopefully this years result will be taken as an eyeopener. It's ok to take risks. And i'm ok with more pop. Just get out of that cookie cutter factory please, if just for one year at least.

I agree, a NF would mean more options musically-speaking and an actual involvement from Australians in the selection process, which can only be better than internal selections that firstly didn't bring anything fresh to the contest and secondly didn't do justice to their national music scene.

Like you, I'm waiting for more info just to make sure it'll be a NF and not a Sony-sponsored party with ten shades of beige on offer.

Tel Aviv 2019 will be their fifth participation, it's about time they experiment a little: it could be more rewarding than they think.

 

[Preuss]

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https://wiwibloggs.com/2018/10/13/australia-decides-national-final/227871/

 

[Preuss]

Re: AUSTRALIA 2019

So I've just read somewhere that the australian delegation gets their money from Sony and not actually SBS...? If true, what happens if someone from Sony doesn't represent Australia next year?

 

[Valdeio]

Re: AUSTRALIA 2019

ESCKAZ reported about first three participants "Eurovision: Australia Decides", it's: Delta Goodrem

Peking Duk

and Ricki-Lee

 

[Realest]

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Wow, the international, professional Juries will fall in Love with Delta if chooses her
Some Songs are really great of her.

 

[Lindon]

Re: AUSTRALIA 2019

Wow, the international, professional Juries will fall in Love with Delta if chooses her
Some Songs are really great of her.

She looks and sounds great live:

 

[Yoozek]

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What the hell. Now she wants to take part, when there's no internal pick?

Oh hell, guess I know who'll be my "top1 song which flopped at NF" xd

 

[A-lister]

Re: AUSTRALIA 2019

Delta? I have to see it to believe it... she's a big star in Australia though (is she still?), I'm a bit surprised she would accept to enter a contest rather than being internally chosen...

If Australia goes for Delta though and the song will be good (in other words not like the 2015-2017 entries), then Australia would aim for victory... which will cause problems with EBU opening up the hosting of the contest for a bidding war... but I guess those are consequences we have to live with now that Australia is here to stay... Delta has the full package, she just needs the song.

 

[Sabiondo]

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If Australia goes for Delta though and the song will be good (in other words not like the 2015-2017 entries), then Australia would aim for victory... which will cause problems with EBU opening up the hosting of the contest for a bidding war... but I guess those are consequences we have to live with now that Australia is here to stay... Delta has the full package, she just needs the song.

But if Sergey Lazarev goes return again for ESC 2019, Delta will have ''some'' problems with the televoting scoring as she is not well know in Europe like Lazarev, but if the jury act like they did in 2016 with him, will be :twisted:

 

[tuorem]

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But if Sergey Lazarev goes return again for ESC 2019, Delta will have ''some'' problems with the televoting scoring as she is not well know in Europe like Lazarev, but if the jury act like they did in 2016 with him, will be :twisted:

Delta from Australia first with the juries.
Lazarev from Russia first with the televoters.
Valentina Monetta from San Marino second in both rankings.
Epic Sammarinese victory.
Done deal.

 

[ZoboCamel]

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I think there's a misunderstanding here - I'm not seeing any indication that those three artists have been selected for our national final.

The only source I can see mentioning it is ESCKAZ, which in its own words says that:

Such artists like Delta Goodrem, Peking Duk, Ricki-Lee Coulter may take part in the Eurovision: Australia Decides final according to the report of Gold Coast Events, Tourism and Governance committee' meeting of Thursday 13th September 2018.

There's a lot there that doesn't match up. Firstly, it's not confirming them whatsoever – it's just quoting that, in a local council report, their names were given as examples as the sort of people who might participate.

You have to call the sources into question as well. This article seems to be either badly written or badly translated, and neither makes it sound more credible. The same is true of the council report it's quoting, which (even if it was saying the names were confirmed, which it's not) has already been wrong on some things (dates; saying that Eurovision Asia has 200 million viewers despite the fact that it's never aired yet and those are the numbers for regular Eurovision instead). And so on, and so forth.

Add on the fact that no more major sources are covering this (I'm not seeing these names confirmed by the likes of Wiwi, SBS or OGAE Australia, even in rumours), and I think there's a lot of room for doubt. I'm not saying it's impossible for those artists to appear, but... yeah, definitely a lot of doubt.

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More generally, I just realised I haven't actually commented on us having an NF yet! I'm usually pretty inactive in the main Eurovision forums until about December, but I feel like I should've commented a little earlier.

Long story short, I'm equal parts excited and worried. On one hand, I'm thrilled to see us mixing things up a bit – we've probably been the most formulaic country at the contest for the last few years, and I would've hated to see us go further down that path. A national final gives the public some choice, opens up the chance for some more interesting entries, and should hopefully just be a lot of fun all-round.

On the other hand, there are some worrying signs. The NF's name, format and more indicate that it'll be styled after the UK, which seems like a bit of an odd idea considering there are much more successful formats out there; SBS and Blink could screw things up by making a dull shortlist even if the submissions are interesting; and most of all, I'm not sure I trust the Australian voting public to go with the best song (as opposed to the "most Eurovisiony" one or a potential joke entry).

Anyways, I guess we'll have to wait and see – I'll be quite interested to see how it turns out!

 

[Yoozek]

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But if Sergey Lazarev goes return again for ESC 2019, Delta will have ''some'' problems with the televoting scoring as she is not well know in Europe like Lazarev, but if the jury act like they did in 2016 with him, will be :twisted:

I didn't care about Sergey at all before ESC and I've voted.
I didn't care about Delta but I'd vote the s* out of my phone for "Wings".
Being well known means literally nothing in Eurovision and there are dozens of examples, starting with Kate Ryan and Cascada, ending with Netta and Salvador.

Valentina Monetta from San Marino second in both rankings.

Second last you mean? Like last 4 times? No one's gonna get close to her guiness record of flops in next 50 years.

 

[Leydan]

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On the other hand, there are some worrying signs. The NF's name, format and more indicate that it'll be styled after the UK, which seems like a bit of an odd idea considering there are much more successful formats out there; SBS and Blink could screw things up by making a dull shortlist even if the submissions are interesting; and most of all, I'm not sure I trust the Australian voting public to go with the best song (as opposed to the "most Eurovisiony" one or a potential joke entry).

I can just imagine that conversation.

"So guys, we're having a NF"
"How will we do it though?"
"hmmm... We need a format that is going to give us some quality, modern and interesting entries. Something that is proven to succeed"
"oh so like Melodifestivalen or Vidbir?"
"..."
"..."
"I think Eurovision: You Decide from the UK is the way to go"
"GENIUS"

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The problem with this is that what is submitted might not be all that great. Often better entries can come out internal selections. NFs seem to only work when the team know what they're doing or Eurovision is insanely popular there and not in a kitsch way. That being said, people said the UK public are terrible at picking, but ultimately I think they picked the best (on the NF night) from rather mediocre bunches. I'm sure it will be the same for Australians, unless ofc you throw a troll song into the mix.

 

[tuorem]

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Second last you mean? Like last 4 times? No one's gonna get close to her guiness record of flops in next 50 years.

No, second like second place, top 2. Like it or not, she still made history for San Marino And don't spread the lies please, the only time she flopped big time was in 2017.

The problem with this is that what is submitted might not be all that great. Often better entries can come out internal selections. NFs seem to only work when the team know what they're doing or Eurovision is insanely popular there and not in a kitsch way. That being said, people said the UK public are terrible at picking, but ultimately I think they picked the best (on the NF night) from rather mediocre bunches. I'm sure it will be the same for Australians, unless ofc you throw a troll song into the mix.

We'll have to wait and see to find out, but do you really think the quality standard could be lower than what they've sent internally so far? No shade, but any of their past entries could have been featured in a NF to me. They've sent mainstream pop songs, not demanding music. With that being said, I don't think they have anything to lose by holding a NF: in the worst case scenario, we'll have various shades of safe pop on offer. Hopefully, they won't be biased towards musical diversity, that's what piques my interest first and foremost.

The thing is we have no clue about what kind of song/act Australians would like to be represented by. In any case, I don't picture SBS selecting super bad or troll entries, even as fillers.

 

[Preuss]

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Hmm a quick look of how Australia's voted in the GFs (top 3):

2015:

Sweden
Belgium
Serbia

2016:

Belgium
Bulgaria
Ukraine

2017:

Moldova
Romania
Denmark

2018:

Israel
Denmark
Ireland

 

[Yoozek]

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No, second like second place, top 2. Like it or not, she still made history for San Marino And don't spread the lies please, the only time she flopped big time was in 2017.

Well she flopped every time for me. I don't want to start thinking about which of these 4 times were harder flopped then the others. She learnt nothing, she honestly can't sing, give her any song you want and it will just look hilarious to me. "At least she's trying" - nope, said herself that she came 4th time for fans. She didn't try, she's just came there knowing she'll flop hard and she did.

And it's sad that "making history" for San marino means that they qualify. Have a look at Czech guys. Gabriela was so happy when she qualified, said "I'm glad we've made history" or smth like that. And boom, two years later they're 6th. That's progress while San Marino keeps flopping cause they send these songs no one cares about.

 

[tuorem]

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[MENTION=12307]Yoozek[/MENTION] Sorry, I didn't notice you were actually joking Got it now!


[MENTION=14659]Preuss[/MENTION] I doubt we can guess Australians' taste based on how they voted in Eurovision. The mindset may be different because it's all about them and their potential to do well (or not): it'll be interesting to get feedback from the Australian members here once the songs are out.

 

[Kaz]

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Going out on a limb here, but I reaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy desparately hope this song will be in our NF. Three minutes (3:24 on Youtube but with about ~20 seconds of silence in the music video) and released in October...definitely wishful thinking but Meg Mac is one of my favourite Aussie artists and I wouldn't care how well she does in the contest - this song is unique and moves away from the super generic stuff we've sent 4 years straight.

 

[Sean]

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http://escunited.com/australia-decides-captures-public-imagination-with-over-700-submissions-to-sbs/

Over 700 entries submitted

I'm hoping for a really interesting high quality and DIVERSE selection, but I'm fearing DMGP on steroids.