TURKEY 2013 - not taking part

[Impressive]

I don't really care. No country is bigger than Eurovision, and even though they have sent good entries lately, I prefer concentrating on the countries that are taking part.

I really wonder why some people act so racist around Eurovision. Sounds like Turkish public asked for leaving Eurovision.

 

[ParadiseES]

I'm wondering, what is the general feeling in Turkey about not being in it this year, especially among ESC fans? I can imagine there's a great deal of disappointment, but also some understanding perhaps....

I think this is the most stupid withdrawal I've ever seen. It's so weird and sad not having Turkey this year, but we can't accept blackmail.

 

[dragvision]

confirmed trt dont brodcast only one of the three show of esc 2013

 

[A-lister]

I really wonder why some people act so racist around Eurovision. Sounds like Turkish public asked for leaving Eurovision.

Plz don't overuse the word "racist", it's become a bit ridiculous really. In what universe is it "racist" to criticize TRT's withdrawal in ESC?

I don't think anyone has made any racist remarks on Turks, so it's kind of exaggerating (and disturbing) with you using that label on people in here.

We must be able to criticize TRT and their motives without being labeled as "racists".

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Nothing against Turkish fans but Im very happy that Turkey has withdrawn. It will normalise Western voting to a great extent and as such will make for a better contest.

 

[Scooby]

^ On that case excess are Russia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Romania, Turkey, whole Scandinavia, whole Balkan (except Bulgaria), and lets make old great Eurovision back, backing to the time when western countries only existed on contest. Malta can stay

....i'm whistling......

 

[Mickey]

Plz don't overuse the word "racist", it's become a bit ridiculous really. In what universe is it "racist" to criticize TRT's withdrawal in ESC?

I don't think anyone has made any racist remarks on Turks, so it's kind of exaggerating (and disturbing) with you using that label on people in here.

We must be able to criticize TRT and their motives without being labeled as "racists".

My feeling is that Impressive was saying some Turks are racist, not Qwaarjet. I haven't seen anything to suggest explicit racism involved in Turkey's withdrawal, though.

 

[A-lister]

My feeling is that Impressive was saying some Turks are racist, not Qwaarjet. I haven't seen anything to suggest explicit racism involved in Turkey's withdrawal, though.

Oh, he's been calling me a racist in this thread before when I questioned TRT's motives or mentioned diaspora voting... so he sees criticism against Turkey in any form as "racist"

 

[Impressive]

Oh, he's been calling me a racist in this thread before when I questioned TRT's motives or mentioned diaspora voting... so he sees criticism against Turkey in any form as "racist"

I did once and it was a mistake, I agree. But this time I didn't mean commenters on Turkey's withdrawing. I meant Turkish people around Turkey the one is not interested in Eurovision. I usually visit some Turkish forums to improve my Turkish and so on I see what they think about this situation. The one deeply huge fans are sad as I though but some of them doesn't even watch Eurovision, they only know Turkish entries about Eurovision's history, they have no idea even about votings, even system but they always keep saying "This is the best. It was politic. We deserved to win in 2010 blah blah blah." I would want to ask them why they don't make any comment about qualifing in 2006 or taking 4th place in final with horrible live performance with Hadise? The part "Sounds like Turkish people asked for leaving Eurovision" was directly taking aim on them.

So I was answering the question from previous page.

 

[A-lister]

I did once and it was a mistake, I agree. But this time I didn't mean commenters on Turkey's withdrawing. I meant Turkish people around Turkey the one is not interested in Eurovision. I usually visit some Turkish forums to improve my Turkish and so on I see what they think about this situation. The one deeply huge fans are sad as I though but some of them doesn't even watch Eurovision, they only know Turkish entries about Eurovision's history, they have no idea even about votings, even system but they always keep saying "This is the best. It was politic. We deserved to win in 2010 blah blah blah." I would want to ask them why they don't make any comment about qualifing in 2006 or taking 4th place in final with horrible live performance with Hadise?

So I was answering the question from previous page.

The part "Sounds like Turkish people asked for leaving Eurovision" was directly taking aim on them.

I see, I apologize for my misunderstanding then and I'm glad to see you realized your mistake in the past aswell.

However I'm not quite sure if I understand you? You mean these Turks are "racist" because they only care about Turkey succeeding but nothing else? Well not sure if I'd call it "racist", but for sue it's blind nationalism.

 

[Impressive]

However I'm not quite sure if I understand you? You mean these Turks are "racist" because they only care about Turkey succeeding but nothing else? Well not sure if I'd call it "racist", but for sue it's blind nationalism.

Racist is my general word to use, the first one comes in my mind. We can call it blind nationalism, too. Nothing is wrong with that in my opinion.

 

[A-lister]

Racist is my general word to use, the first one comes in my mind. We can call it blind nationalism, too. Nothing is wrong with that in my opinion.

Just a friendly advice, if you use a harsh label like that too much, you minimize its actual meaning.

 

[dogmeat]

At first i wanted to say "he was asking Turks for opinions!", but then i realized all Turks seem to have disappeared this year.

 

[Fluke]

Is it going to be televised in Turkey at all? What does the media in general say about it?

 

[Impressive]

Is it going to be televised in Turkey at all? What does the media in general say about it?

Probably not. Media doesn't care about Eurovision at all.

 

[NikkiBoy]

Turkey will broadcast the final
Canl

 

[Jim]

Turkey will broadcast the final
Canl

Great!!!

 

[Musicosity]

I wonder what this means for the chances of Azerbaijan.

 

[Impressive]

I wonder what this means for the chances of Azerbaijan.

What does it suppose to mean?

 

[Mattan]

I wonder what this means for the chances of Azerbaijan.

Well, Azerbaijan will get one douze points less, but then again they will get many votes that would normally have gone to Turkey, and like all other countries, Azerbaijan benefits from not having Turkey mixing it up like they usually do. The difference is Azerbaijan will get many of the votes that would've gone to Turkey, that much seems very likely.

The Azeri delegation should be quite pleased.