Contact us

THE BIG TOURNAMENT 2012 - Grand Final

as78

Well-known member
Joined
March 23, 2012
Posts
10,524
Location
Latvia
I looked through all the results and here are the voters who voted closest to me:

Stargazer 7/10 + the same 12-pointer and we have the same top-6 but different order
EurovisionSmile 7/10
Rose82 7/10
Matt 6/10 + the same 12-pointer
AdelAdel 6/10
katapult 6/10
Terence 6/10

xcheer
 

Nike

Active member
Joined
December 23, 2009
Posts
638
Location
STHLM
So you do base your taste on how well a song does in Eurovision? This contest is not about ranking songs based on how well they did. It's about voting for the songs you love the most, regardless of how well or poorly they did. But you're still having trouble understanding that.

I guess you didn't read my post.I said I hate them even if they won. But it's hard to argue against a song that actually won ESC.

again this is not about the best songs. People are voting for songs they think are underrated. Fairytale and Euphoria have no chance to win because people are jealous of their popularity. It's pretty clear that some people are tired to see Euphoria winning everything. Then they don't vote for it.
 

Nike

Active member
Joined
December 23, 2009
Posts
638
Location
STHLM
BTW Stargazer can you please take away Sweden's flag from your signature. We all know you aren't fan... It's pathetic to have the flag when you bash euphoria. :(
 

katapult

Well-known member
Joined
December 29, 2010
Posts
1,048
Location
Berlin
Mmm...I gave 6 points to Lux 65 and only two points to UK 1997 - *feelings of regret* - seems like I felt a bit too sure about the latter...
(But better Lux 65 than Italy 90, imo...ahem :oops:, sorry fans; but I've personally never been a fan of Toto's song.)
 

Stargazer

Mod of All Things
Staff member
Joined
January 13, 2010
Posts
20,862
Location
Trollheimr / Westrobothnia
I guess you didn't read my post.I said I hate them even if they won. But it's hard to argue against a song that actually won ESC.

again this is not about the best songs. People are voting for songs they think are underrated. Fairytale and Euphoria have no chance to win because people are jealous of their popularity. It's pretty clear that some people are tired to see Euphoria winning everything. Then they don't vote for it.
But who cares which song won? Most of the time my favorite Eurovision songs are not the songs that won and that has nothing to do with them being overrated or underrated. I love songs because I find them great. Not because they won or lost.

Only a sore loser would think people are jealous just because they don't vote for the songs you like. Yes some people are tired of seeing Euphoria winning everything, but these people obviously don't like the song to begin with and probably wouldn't vote for it regardless of how many contests it's already won.

BTW Stargazer can you please take away Sweden's flag from your signature. We all know you aren't fan... It's pathetic to have the flag when you bash euphoria. :(
LOL oh dear. You obviously can't read. My signature is of my favorite songs from 2012. Euphoria is among my favorite songs of 2012. But it's not among my favorite songs of all time, nor is it among my top favorites in this final. How am I bashing it? When have I ever bashed it? Apparently to you loving Estonia 2009 is equal to hating Sweden 2012. I like Euphoria. For me it doesn't have to be one or the other. I enjoy both Estonia 2009 and Sweden 2012 but I didn't vote for either of them in this final because there were simply too many good songs.
 

Matt

Admin Schmadmin
Staff member
Joined
June 1, 2009
Posts
23,479
Location
Los Angeles, USA
I can seperate them. It's you, Matt and some other people that believe a song is superior because have placed higher than Euphoria, Fairytale ect. The fact is that Euphoria and Fairytale are superior because they won real big deal ESC!!

Aehm, i actually prefer Euphoria over Randajad so you can leave my name out of this please. And I like Fairytale a whole lot better than both of these songs.

The purpose of this game is to give all ESC songs a shot, not only the winners, I don't think that this game is right for your if you feel a song that scored lower in ESC is less deserving of winning or doing well in this game. Otherwise we can have a final with the 50+ winner and leave out the rest.

BTW, you were the one who always put the Swedish entries at the top throughout the game, so I don't think you're questioning other peoples tastes. Cause according your logic, both Ireland 1996 and Norway 1996 should have done better than Sweden 1996, yet you gave Sweden 10 points. Since the other two did better at Eurovision they deserved to rank higher.

You're being a hypocrite by making such claims but ignore your own "rules" when it comes to your favorites
 

Matt

Admin Schmadmin
Staff member
Joined
June 1, 2009
Posts
23,479
Location
Los Angeles, USA
Let's see some of Nike's 12 pointers


:fi: 2007 ....why would you give 12 points to that song? It was on the right hand side of the board and can't be better than some of the other songs. Oh wait you like it so the rules don't apply in this case.

And here your votes from Group 1 (Round 3)

12 Sweden 1996
10 Sweden 1991
8 Sweden 2004

But no points to the winning song from 1980 and even your precious Norway 2009 is lower than all Swedish entry. It's obvious that you are all about the Swedish entries so all your comments you made about "deserving winner" are a bunch of BS cause you had your own agenda when voting so your accusations at this points are laughable.
 

EurovisionSmile

Veteran
Joined
February 24, 2010
Posts
24,126
Location
Lisbon & Kordavian Islands
:D I've just read all the posts related to the final (yes, I couldn't do it while I was working like a slave IOTAP :lol:)
therefore, don't be surprised with my 'late likes' :D I couldn't do it before xsnooty)
Conclusion: I had so much fun reading all the posts! xrofl2 Love you guys! xlove xhug

(I will try to forget the argument after the final xrofl3)
 

Steffan

Well-known member
Joined
December 2, 2010
Posts
3,977
I am kinda happy with the winner :) It's a Eurovision classic and it sure deserved to win :) Tho I wouldn't say it's unpredictable since it won a contest similar to Big Tournament (all entries) a year ago or so... Most of my faves are underrated but I am over the top happy that Loreen didn't win or even come TOP3...

Thanks for the wonderful hosting Matt and Smiley :)
 

Steffan

Well-known member
Joined
December 2, 2010
Posts
3,977
If songs are superior and so much better because placed high in this game then we maybe should tell EBU to not host ESC anymore. This "amazing" game will be the new ESC. At least you people act like that.:lol:

In ESC most of the songs do well because of Diaspora voting (and the juries don't help)... in here there is no diaspora voting... Also don't be a sore-loser... people like Randajad more than Euphoria and you should deal with that...

Or to speak in your language:
" OMG Randajad is the best! So much better than overrated Euphoria! Euphoria is TERRIBLE! Randajad is so beautiful and not Euphoria! Randajad didn't win because it was in Estonian and many people vote only for songs they understand. Omg like Euphoria is so unoriginal, it was in like English and stuff. Randajad is awesome! You just hate on Estonia here and talk bad about them. Estonia Hater!"

Bye :)
 

CPV4931

Well-known member
Joined
February 25, 2011
Posts
6,886
Location
Germany
I´m afraid, that I didn´t have the time to vote for this game since round 2 (very busy start in new job), but I want to thank Matt + ES for organizing BT :-) You did a great job
I hope, that I´ll be able to vote more often in next year´s edition
 

as78

Well-known member
Joined
March 23, 2012
Posts
10,524
Location
Latvia
Once again I would like to thank you for the exciting game and entertainment for several months. It has helped me to discover many of the songs from earlier years that I did not know before. Matt and Luis, you've done a great job. xup xclap

Also big thanks for interesting results' show yesterday. I am very satisfied with the results even though my main favorite :it: 1990 missed quite a bit to win. To be honest I did not expect such a big success for "Insieme: 1992". It did not qualify for the final of last year. Thanks to everyone who supported and voted for it. xkiss
I love this song even before I knew about the ESC. In the early 90's contest was not broadcast in my country and honestly I did not know about it. But I had a tape with this song and back then it was among my favorites.

I am happy with the winner. It was 6th in my vote, but it's one of my favorite 60's songs along with :it: 1964. So I love it very much. And congratulations to everyone who has "Poupée de cire, poupée de son" as their main favorite. xcheer1

It's nice that :ee: 2009 took the highest place from 2000+ songs, although I did not vote for it. But it's a great song.

See you all at next year's tournament.

xcheer
 

EurovisionSmile

Veteran
Joined
February 24, 2010
Posts
24,126
Location
Lisbon & Kordavian Islands
Thanks to Luis and Matt. You are great, guys.

The winner is interesting. I´m thankful, that :it: 1990 and :se: 2012 haven´t won.

It was a great show.

Thank you, Peter xcheers xrunhug

But I didn't like the part concerning :it: 1990 IOTAP xsnooty

:eek: :eek: Another German who doesn't like 'Insieme: 1992' (3rd since yesterday xthink), Lak is right, it is a conspirancy xrofl3
 
Top Bottom