Saw the video for the first time. I would have said that maybe he is a little childish, but he is only 20. A few comments like about Hungary are tolerable. BUT the way he reacted about the Macedonian drummer? It has nothing to do with being politically correct, but ESC is also about respect and he didn't show it a few times. As a character and person, I don't like him at all, but maybe within time he will grow. Let's hope.
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Saw the video for the first time. I would have said that maybe he is a little childish, but he is only 20. A few comments like about Hungary are tolerable. BUT the way he reacted about the Macedonian drummer? It has nothing to do with being politically correct, but ESC is also about respect and he didn't show it a few times. As a character and person, I don't like him at all, but maybe within time he will grow. Let's hope.
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This hate against Benjamin is so childish, and the overall hate against Sweden nowdays is also so pathetic.
Sweden is the most successful country in ESC this days, it is the country that want to transform ESC into a modern show that gives us music that will survive outside the ESC bubble. I guess this creates hate among some peoples...
At the same time it think it is quite fun, becuause a Swedish win or a good result will be even nicer now. :twisted:
As for Benjamins comments, well he was honest and that was the idea right? This is a competion and do you think he should fake it? He said what he thought at that moment and that is good that someone actually do that.
And to be honest San Marino is lowbudget and Hungary is just noise for me...:?
Benjamin was asked to do a reaction video and he did an honest one, he might be a bit impulsive sometimes (see the video below
) but as i said i think it is nice to see people show their personalities and not fake it.
Also people are suposed to think and express their opinions without being attacked with hate like Benjamin is here.
Many are so sensitive today, but nice to see that Benjamin apologized, but honestly he should not feel that way because he didn´t do anything wrong.
Go Benjamin! Sweden supports you!
Sweden is the most successful country in ESC this days, it is the country that want to transform ESC into a modern show that gives us music that will survive outside the ESC bubble. I guess this creates hate among some peoples...
At the same time it think it is quite fun, becuause a Swedish win or a good result will be even nicer now. :twisted:
As for Benjamins comments, well he was honest and that was the idea right? This is a competion and do you think he should fake it? He said what he thought at that moment and that is good that someone actually do that.
And to be honest San Marino is lowbudget and Hungary is just noise for me...:?
Benjamin was asked to do a reaction video and he did an honest one, he might be a bit impulsive sometimes (see the video below
) but as i said i think it is nice to see people show their personalities and not fake it. Also people are suposed to think and express their opinions without being attacked with hate like Benjamin is here.
Many are so sensitive today, but nice to see that Benjamin apologized, but honestly he should not feel that way because he didn´t do anything wrong.
Go Benjamin! Sweden supports you!
Yes, there are several better ways to say that you don't like an entry!
As for Sweden i agree that they usually have strong and good entries that can easily reach top 5 and this year they will but this doesn't mean that all other countries deserve rude treatment from someone who feels like the best just because he represents the strongest country! Anyway i believe that the whole drama will help Benjamin somehow!
As for Sweden i agree that they usually have strong and good entries that can easily reach top 5 and this year they will but this doesn't mean that all other countries deserve rude treatment from someone who feels like the best just because he represents the strongest country! Anyway i believe that the whole drama will help Benjamin somehow!
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Pffff what a meltdown 
I've just watched the infamous video and now the big issue for me are not the truly disrespectful words about Macedonia or San Marino (wich still deserve a more specific apology, IMHO). The main problem for me now is that Benjamin has turned out to be total moron. He is not funny at all!. I get he intended to be so, but he is so annoying...
Also there's people here claiming he was being just honest and natural... I completely disagree. The way he pretends he likes Estonia or Italy, for example... That couldn't be more fake. That's political correctness at its best. Or both times he says vocals are very low and he can't hear well... It's so obvious he is disliking that songs!
There's also a pattern: all not really nice words are basically reserved for small non-nordic/northwestern countries but Finland. He doesnt make any "jokes" with big countries. Nor the smallest critic either. Sooo predictable. So coward.
I don't know. He looks so desperate to appeal... xdown
I've just watched the infamous video and now the big issue for me are not the truly disrespectful words about Macedonia or San Marino (wich still deserve a more specific apology, IMHO). The main problem for me now is that Benjamin has turned out to be total moron. He is not funny at all!. I get he intended to be so, but he is so annoying...
Also there's people here claiming he was being just honest and natural... I completely disagree. The way he pretends he likes Estonia or Italy, for example... That couldn't be more fake. That's political correctness at its best. Or both times he says vocals are very low and he can't hear well... It's so obvious he is disliking that songs!
There's also a pattern: all not really nice words are basically reserved for small non-nordic/northwestern countries but Finland. He doesnt make any "jokes" with big countries. Nor the smallest critic either. Sooo predictable. So coward.
I don't know. He looks so desperate to appeal... xdown
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THIS
Another things I find ridiculous:
* People using his ADHD disease to explain his rude behavior. It's actually an insult to people with mental problems.
* People bringing his country in and saying the thing backfired because he's Swedish. I can't.
Gordon posted the link on the page before:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/8f4u91/what_happened_with_wiwibloggss_youtube_video_of/
Scroll down and you'll find it here.
Pffff what a meltdown
I've just watched the infamous video and now the big issue for me are not the truly disrespectful words about Macedonia or San Marino (wich still deserve a more specific apology, IMHO). The main problem for me now is that Benjamin has turned out to be total moron. He is not funny at all!. I get he intended to be so, but he is so annoying...
Also there's people here claiming he was being just honest and natural... I completely disagree. The way he pretends he likes Estonia or Italy, for example... That couldn't be more fake. That's political correctness at its best. Or both times he says vocals are very low and he can't hear well... It's so obvious he is disliking that songs!
There's also a pattern: all not really nice words are basically reserved for small non-nordic/northwestern countries but Finland. He doesnt make any "jokes" with big countries. Nor the smallest critic either. Sooo predictable. So coward.
I don't know. He looks so desperate to appeal... xdown
That's exactly how I felt when I watched the Video.
This hate against Benjamin is so childish, and the overall hate against Sweden nowdays is also so pathetic.
Sweden is the most successful country in ESC this days, it is the country that want to transform ESC into a modern show that gives us music that will survive outside the ESC bubble. I guess this creates hate among some peoples...
At the same time it think it is quite fun, becuause a Swedish win or a good result will be even nicer now. :twisted:
As for Benjamins comments, well he was honest and that was the idea right? This is a competion and do you think he should fake it? He said what he thought at that moment and that is good that someone actually do that.
And to be honest San Marino is lowbudget and Hungary is just noise for me...:?
Benjamin was asked to do a reaction video and he did an honest one, he might be a bit impulsive sometimes (see the video below
Yeah, Sweden is very succesful in ESC, and that's good, but little Ingrosso knows that whatever he says, he's just safe because he represents Sweden.
The ''I don't care, we are the best, we are rich and have a full jury to support me'' attitude is the worst. What is this? He was so wrong, that's why he apologized! And it's so so bad and mean to laugh at countries that are low budget, like really, is that a ''honest opinion''? This is just childish and arrogant, because he knows that he will be top 5-10 whatever what. So if some of you defends him, you are wrong. bye girl!
midnightsun
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Just learnt about the drama a few minutes ago.
So... my two cents...
While I didnt like the Swedish entry, especially Ingrosso‘s voice, from the very first minute I listened to it (and therefore have been hoping he doesn’t qualify since then) I don’t get the hate. I thought Germans are supposed to be humourless... ;-P
I don‘t think his reaction was that bad; to me he sounds like a child who doesn‘t know much about Eurovision. He just said what came straight to his mind because he doesn’t know better. I found the remarks about Macedonia and San Marino rather funny. The only slightly annoying remark was about Hungary, that sounded a little rude, but that‘s probably like a younger participant would react. He could‘ve said it a little nicer that he doesn’t like rock music.
All in all, I find Salvador‘s reaction to „fast food music“ much more rude and this guy even won (don’t ask me why; don’t like the guy and the song either). But people seem to forget...
Swedish fans defending him are much more annoying ;-) because they are the ones who sound rude by supposing their country is the most superior country of Eurovision...
So... my two cents...
While I didnt like the Swedish entry, especially Ingrosso‘s voice, from the very first minute I listened to it (and therefore have been hoping he doesn’t qualify since then) I don’t get the hate. I thought Germans are supposed to be humourless... ;-P
I don‘t think his reaction was that bad; to me he sounds like a child who doesn‘t know much about Eurovision. He just said what came straight to his mind because he doesn’t know better. I found the remarks about Macedonia and San Marino rather funny. The only slightly annoying remark was about Hungary, that sounded a little rude, but that‘s probably like a younger participant would react. He could‘ve said it a little nicer that he doesn’t like rock music.
All in all, I find Salvador‘s reaction to „fast food music“ much more rude and this guy even won (don’t ask me why; don’t like the guy and the song either). But people seem to forget...
Swedish fans defending him are much more annoying ;-) because they are the ones who sound rude by supposing their country is the most superior country of Eurovision...
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What fans claim he said about Macedonia: "The drummer looks like a homeless person, oh gosh"
What he actually said: "Oh, look at the drummer. He doesn't really know what he is doing, they brought him from the street"
He also loved a lot of the songs: France, Germany, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Cyprus...
Overall I don't think his reactions were as bad as people said, maybe just Hungary was kind of over the top.
What he actually said: "Oh, look at the drummer. He doesn't really know what he is doing, they brought him from the street"
He also loved a lot of the songs: France, Germany, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Cyprus...
Overall I don't think his reactions were as bad as people said, maybe just Hungary was kind of over the top.
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What's up with this sudden interest in what Benjamin thinks about stuff? More comments in one day than the whole Melodifestivalen season? Seems people just love to gloat, some even with a hilarious pseudo-serious attitude claiming being morally abused - Benjamin said si and said so, scandal! I thought this was a fan forum. Oh yes, I remember someone said "this isn't a fan forum, it's a discussion board and I have every right to criticise". Right
Gordon_Shumway
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xgood That's exactly how I see this as well. Thanks for your excellent posting!
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I’m legit not upset a spoiled brat diva boy is being rude and extra when it comes to the gayest most extravagant show on earth. It’s Eurovision season and not everyone can be God’s favorite. Ofcourse I seem biased, I dont really like Benjamin to be honest but I like the song
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You are overthinking this. Ingrosso probably doesn’t even know there is a jury. Most importantly: being hated in the fan community barely means anything when it comes to scoring or not.
LalehForWD
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Our dear neighbours in Norway are still flying the flag with pre-Eurovision shows:
https://tv.nrk.no/serie/eurovision-song-contest
So if you are like me, a little slow in following esc things and understand Scandinavian, there's your treat.
Såklart inte som Björkmans Inför men nästan. Textning på norska hjälper en del vid några svåra ord och utryck.
There's also the one in Swedish on YLE
RainyWoods
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So I spent 14 minutes watching this video that has caused a stir, waiting to get offended...
The best part of the video was the Georgia shade. It made me laugh even and it's my on/off favourite of the year. Just total silence and that look on his face. And the "Norwegian Barri Manilow" comment is the best accidental shade i've witnessed in a while.
Weird to make a competing artist sit down and comment on each song. What did people possibly expect? I'm sure 99% of us fans have said worse publicly here and other places *holds hand up*. Benjamin Ingrosso calling San Marino's NF "low budget" hasn't changed my opinion of him really. But anything I guess can cause a ruckus in Eurovision fan world. Perhaps a silly video to make in the first place but let the guy off the hook here. Storm in a teacup situation I think.
The best part of the video was the Georgia shade. It made me laugh even and it's my on/off favourite of the year. Just total silence and that look on his face. And the "Norwegian Barri Manilow" comment is the best accidental shade i've witnessed in a while.
Weird to make a competing artist sit down and comment on each song. What did people possibly expect? I'm sure 99% of us fans have said worse publicly here and other places *holds hand up*. Benjamin Ingrosso calling San Marino's NF "low budget" hasn't changed my opinion of him really. But anything I guess can cause a ruckus in Eurovision fan world. Perhaps a silly video to make in the first place but let the guy off the hook here. Storm in a teacup situation I think.