Depends on how he will convey his performance live. A song can be good and can still be destroyed by the staging. A good example is Belarus. Good song, but live? His singing was creepy. :?
Sweden SWEDEN 2018 - Benjamin Ingrosso - Dance You Off
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Depends on how he will convey his performance live. A song can be good and can still be destroyed by the staging. A good example is Belarus. Good song, but live? His singing was creepy. :?
That's true! But i think he won't be that bad as Alkseev!
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Does someone of you know why there are many comments on Youtube and forums that Sweden this year will struggle to qualify? Is it really true that this entry is the worst of all Swedish entries, or among worst? 
( Maybe some of you know about it more, I started to be die-hard fan of contest in previous three years...) In my opinion worse were I can't go on, and Popular, I hated them, even I know this is kinda similiar, but for me it is more likeable, and I enjoy to listen it. And many people are saying that Sweden even doesn't deserve to qualify, but I think it is among top 10 songs of 2nd semi-final, because it is very weak semi-final, more than a half songs are just meh...
( Maybe some of you know about it more, I started to be die-hard fan of contest in previous three years...) In my opinion worse were I can't go on, and Popular, I hated them, even I know this is kinda similiar, but for me it is more likeable, and I enjoy to listen it. And many people are saying that Sweden even doesn't deserve to qualify, but I think it is among top 10 songs of 2nd semi-final, because it is very weak semi-final, more than a half songs are just meh...
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I agree with you about Rybak, I think he is contender for victory even.
Every day I become more sure at his top 5 placing at least, for me, as much as song is stupid itself, I see funny and catchy effect, like Moldova last year. Music is memorable, and lot of people would reach their phone to vote for him. About this year's Sweden, it is interesting that people either love it very much or hate every bit of it.
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I highly doubt Rybak will reach top. 5, yes it'll probably do better than it deserves, but unlike "Fairytales" his new entry is completely bland and boring. I do agree that people should differ between their own taste and what actually will work in ESC, but in the end of the day we should stay true to our taste. I'd rather support an entry with no chance of winning if I like it than an entry I don't like with all the chances to win.
Fans maybe not like it but i expect many people outside fans to vote for it! And if the staging is good then juries will support it! I'm not saying that he will win but top 5 (or a place near top 5) will come i believe!
I agree on that! I'm not gonna supprt entries i don't like just because they can win!
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Well, at least fans who think Eurovision shouldn't be about charting POP songs should be pleased by a Ryback success. He'll go nowhere outside the esc bubble. 
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i mean it is possible to be trendchasing and current sounding and still be good (though i would never ever want it to be the only thing eurovision is about)
a task failed spectacularly by both alexander rybak and melfest 2018 as a collective
a task failed spectacularly by both alexander rybak and melfest 2018 as a collective
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I think it's really good, people just have sweden fatigue because they dominated eurovision so strongly recently.
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I agree completely, the beat is fire, music is modern and rhytm is catchy. Otherwise, there couldn't be another reason why Czech Republic, Finland, Poland, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Israel are better, that is nonsense. I understand that all people have different taste in music, but it is unrealistic to say that this song is worst this year, people are really overreacting when it comes to Sweden. This year's entry is at least decent and ok, if not more.
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Beatiful words. I think the only issue with Dance you off is that it's not immidiate and instant. The song kind of sneak its way in. The casual voter in the final may not have enough time to recognise it.
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Thanks!
Through my point of view, I've started to like the song instantly, since I saw it in the final of Melodifestivalen. I hope there will be more people like me in May. But this is the kind of music I like and listen every day, i like modern American music, but also their music of 80's (this song is inspired by 80's), then I understand I like it so much. As for the others, I have feeling that they expect Eurovision to be contest of smart songs, ballads, classical music, etc. For me, it has to be fun, it is TV show, so I am ok, with upbeat, catchy songs, and beautiful staging. And this is the only song I am sure I would listen after Eurovision, because it is radio-friendly. Other songs are dated and boring, for my taste, I barely could make top 10 list, even though I know that people are saying this year is strong. There also many fans that think this song is grower, at first they hated it, but after 10th listening, they put it in top 10. Based on its polarization, I really can't predict how well or bad it will do in May.
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Thanks!
I agree!
I'm in it mostly for Melodifestivalen and for catchy POP. And the show of course. If it isn't fun I can just barely stand it. Usually my taste is very different and varies a lot. I have "periods".
It can be everything from Johann Sebastian, trance, Jazz Fusion, soul, different kinds of metal, folk & world music, rap osv osv to a deep dive in a special artist. Lately it has been Soen, don't know why really.
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I agree!
I'm in it mostly for Melodifestivalen and for catchy POP. And the show of course. If it isn't fun I can just barely stand it. Usually my taste is very different and varies a lot. I have "periods".
Thanks for roses!
-O- Same here, besides pop and catchy, I am into jazz, it is one of my favorite genres, and I like rock very much! If I want to pretend smart, like lot of people here I would actually go to theatre and watch ballet or opera, I wouldn't watch Eurovison, so show IS important, and staging, besides song.
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Thanks for roses!
I think I sincerely want Melodifestivalen and in extension, Eurovision to be about mainstream popular music, something that almost everyone can relate to. I think that is the true niche for Eurovision. My own personal taste isn't really important in this respect. A good contribution should be perceived as directed to all, not just to a particular group, and should also be perceived as fresh and current. I think Benjamin has precisely such a song. Mocking joke entries which some people love or pretentious "quality" entries doesn't go down well with me. Naturally upbeat POP with a catchy chorus is most likely to succeed. Melodifestivalen also has an unwritten rule of sorts to support happy upbeat music. So even if I support these type of songs in Eurovision with all my heart, it doesn't mean I listen to them outside of the esc bubble. I think this is very common, especially among Swedes.
Regarding the fan forums, I somehow have this feeling of being a tourist, pretty ridiculous but - since I'm not gay and not female.
Kind of awkward and not really here by full right. Hard to explain, but true. Very obvious when it comes to the issue of pretty boys - a subject that annoys the hell out of me. Perhaps explains my initial reluctance to Benjamin and for example Oscar Zia, both who have proved to be great personalities. Still can't stand Eric Saade though. Anyway this was maybe telling way too much.
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I think I sincerely want Melodifestivalen and in extension, Eurovision to be about mainstream popular music, something that almost everyone can relate to. I think that is the true niche for Eurovision. My own personal taste isn't really important in this respect. A good contribution should be perceived as directed to all, not just to a particular group, and should also be perceived as fresh and current. I think Benjamin has precisely such a song. Mocking joke entries which some people love or pretentious "quality" entries doesn't go down well with me. Naturally upbeat POP with a catchy chorus is most likely to succeed. Melodifestivalen also has an unwritten rule of sorts to support happy upbeat music. So even if I support these type of songs in Eurovision with all my heart, it doesn't mean I listen to them outside of the esc bubble. I think this is very common, especially among Swedes.
Regarding the fan forums, I somehow have this feeling of being a tourist, pretty ridiculous but - since I'm not gay and not female.
I agree, I don't have nothing against mainstream, well produced and quality pop, I still think people are overreacting a little here, and I also despise, literally, as you've said pretentious ""supersmart, quality, supersad" entries about wars, crimes, health, I mean, they can be good, but for me, it is just cheap way to get more points from juries, but really, in most of the cases it is like that. However, I like smart songs that are not pretentious, that sounds more spontaneous. We should really have it all in Eurovision, smart, but also fun, danceable pop songs, but here looks like fans want just "'pretentious smart", and that's why they are mad. When it comes to "pretty boys", my friends think that many Swedish men look so handsome, because Sweden always sends some pretty boy/man.
I 've never liked Robin Bengtsson and Eric Saade, because they are beautifull, but without personality, but I find Benjamin cute, beautiful, but what stands out the most is his amazing personality, he has great charisma, he can be funny, and you can see that he is really in love with that what he is doing on stage. So I am cheering for him to do well, beacuse he likes it so much. 
