Spain SPAIN 2018 - Alfred & Amaia - Tu canción
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AmaiaQ
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Also on Spotify at last! Lovely single cover xromance
http://https://open.spotify.com/track/5tNSU1bJKn1S42NyGSzShg
http://https://open.spotify.com/track/5tNSU1bJKn1S42NyGSzShg
I was thinking about the fact that many people find this too cheesy, and I don't get why. Well yes, but actually no. Bearing in mind it's not just about love, it's about the FIRST love, it's simply realistic and very cute to see. Unless you had a pretty cold first love.
Cyberbliss
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FANS OF THIS SONG, SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR THIS POST!
The more I listen to (snippets of) it (that's because I simply can't get through the end without breaking my device), the more I despise it.
I'm so sorry, there is something terribly wrong about this act:
First, the selection: let the reality shows do the (non-strictly musical) reality shows, and let them stay home where they belong. I'm so disappointed with Spain's attempt to merge Eurovision with the cheapest way of making sensational television and getting some kind of external result from it.
Second, the song itself: though it's pretty cool to talk about first love, this is undeniably CHEESY. A big bunch of the ESC public is teen, but NOT all of it. It's not even tender (see Lithuania) or dreamy, it's simply oozing cheese all over the screen.
Third, though I find Amaia really cute, I can't stand the guy. His voice wrecks my nerves. And his face too.
I BEG YOU TO FORGIVE ME. To me, it's the worst act I've heard in ESC since 2010.
The more I listen to (snippets of) it (that's because I simply can't get through the end without breaking my device), the more I despise it.
I'm so sorry, there is something terribly wrong about this act:
First, the selection: let the reality shows do the (non-strictly musical) reality shows, and let them stay home where they belong. I'm so disappointed with Spain's attempt to merge Eurovision with the cheapest way of making sensational television and getting some kind of external result from it.
Second, the song itself: though it's pretty cool to talk about first love, this is undeniably CHEESY. A big bunch of the ESC public is teen, but NOT all of it. It's not even tender (see Lithuania) or dreamy, it's simply oozing cheese all over the screen.
Third, though I find Amaia really cute, I can't stand the guy. His voice wrecks my nerves. And his face too.
I BEG YOU TO FORGIVE ME. To me, it's the worst act I've heard in ESC since 2010.
AmaiaQ
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You are forgiven, everyone has it's own taste. Your's I actually like going by your top list. That's why saying this is the worst you (half) heard in ESC since 2010 completely boggles my mind. There must be some unconcious weird hatred of young loving couples somewhere in your mind that's making you think that or something. Is your love life ok right now? Haha just joking sorry sorry!!
I actually kind of get what you are saying, being put in front of them performing the song like they do can be too much and if you don't buy it it can come through very wrongly. I think they are working in toning it a bit down for that reasons, so it doesn't come off as cheesy. It will always be sugary, of course. This is a suuper melodic song arranged with piano and violins, and Amaia's voice is even sweeter than it normaly is this song. Love is suposed to be a sweet thing and even more at their age so I can't fault them for that. I have a question for the haters of this song. Do you hate Disney ballads with a passion too? I'm guessing the answer is yes?
Anyway, as I said you are forgiven, but please search inside your sould and your music memories and repent about saying this is the worst since ESC 2010
PS: what you are truly wrong about though is about the reality TV thing you talked about. OT is a special format and it works quite well even for us music lovers, I'll try to explain why some other time.
AmaiaQ
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By the way, first (artifitial) friendships are starting!
https://twitter.com/eurovision_tve/status/973246705339641857?s=19
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https://twitter.com/eurovision_tve/status/973246705339641857?s=19
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94ayd
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Cringiest thing yet thanks to my 39th & 40th place so far (probably
is gonna be higher, so 40th & 41st)...
94ayd
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Cringiest thing yet thanks to my 39th & 40th place so far (probably
PS Seeme like
is my new 41st, so & get to both be in my top 40. 
I agree it's cheesy, but it's not cheesier than Lithuania 2015, and the bad thing of the Lithuanian song for me (compared to Amaia and Alfred) is that it was sung by grown adults that when you see them you know they must have some experience in love, so it didn't make sense that those two began singing such a flower power song like it was the first time they had butterflies in their stomachs. If you don't see anything wrong with This Time, sorry but I don't understand your despise for Tu Canción. Perhaps it's not the cheesy side of it what bothers you, but rather the fact it's not upbeat like the Lithuanian one.
Cyberbliss
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I was talking about Lithuania 2018 and talking about tenderness, not cheesiness, in the specific case. Lithuania 2018 may be cheesy but it's tender, Spain 2018n it's just cheesy
I was talking about Lithuania 2018 and talking about tenderness, not cheesiness, in the specific case. Lithuania 2018 may be cheesy but it's tender, Spain 2018n it's just cheesy
Well actually I was asking your opinion about Lithuania 2015
I'm curious to know if you liked it
PS Seeme like
3 Seems like this fact bothers you! 3
Cyberbliss
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Is your love life ok right now? Haha just joking sorry sorry!!
Yes, marvellous
Yes, with all my cold heart
Anyway, as I said you are forgiven, but please search inside your sould and your music memories and repent about saying this is the worst since ESC 2010
Maybe not the worst, even it's easily in the top 10, but definitely the harder to watch and listen
I try to follow the Spanish music scene, there are some things I really like, mostly pop-rock things, but I don't understand your exquisitely pop reality. I think this year in Eurovision this thing will be way too much evident; marshmallows are quite indigest to other crowds. I don't mean to be rude, I love Spain, but I think this is as flat as a flat tyre can be
Cyberbliss
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Well actually I was asking your opinion about Lithuania 2015
I found it cheesy but in a nice way, that was a fresh, catchy, enjoyable song. Spain2018 is heavy; you may say it's more heartfelt, and that I can understand, but I believe they're both artificial in the end so I go for the catchy song
So being cheesy is not a reason strong enough for you to dislike a song, therefore the problem of Tu Canción has to be more than that.
Btw I 100% respect you don't like it, don't get me wrong
Cyberbliss
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So being cheesy is not a reason strong enough for you to dislike a song, therefore the problem of Tu Canción has to be more than that.
Btw I 100% respect you don't like it, don't get me wrong
No, in fact, as I said, there are other reasons why I don't like this song, Alfred being an important one!
AmaiaQ
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Yes, with all my cold heart
I figured, haha. I think you need to have a certain naivety to enjoy this things. If you are wearing see it through cold hearted cynical eyes there's no way anyone can buy this, so I understand. I don't agree on it being artifitial at all, though. I think the problem is that for an audience this song and performance can seem unearned. If you don't know Amaia & Alfred this whole thing may seem kind of fake or exagerated, but for the spanish audience this is just the culmination of a story that they have been following for three months. It's also a musical culmination of a musical love story (they fell in love by singing and playing to each other and talking about music, it may sound cheesy but it's really music what brought them together) so it doesn't feel wrong.
Our exquisitely pop reality? I don't know what you mean, but our mainstream music scene is quite depressing, specially pop. "Indie" scene is much better and interesting though. Anyway that doesn't have a lot to do with OT and the reality TV thing I mentioned. I just wanted to make the point that OT doesn't have a very sensiationalist approach, but instead allows you to peek into the life of this young artists learning music and developing their art (depending on the contestant, of course). It's a pleasure seeing how Amaia takled and new song each week, and worked on the piano arrangements she then played live, the dynamics of the song, little changes they could introduce to the original song, the interpretation work for each song, in the end you are being witness of how she grew as an artist overall (you can really tell the difference of this three months work). I mean, if you like music and happen to like any of the contestants, it really is a privilege to be able to see part of that, or at least that's how I see it.
Plus, there being a 24h youtube stream also let us be able to watch and enjoy lots of moments of them singing hundreds of songs, improvising music sessions, or even watching the process of songs being written there. Videos like these are absolute gems for me
https://twitter.com/Travelwine_/status/972457901188149248
https://twitter.com/bxstxrdo/status/932973511211184128
(still don't know if you can embed twitter videos or something
)Enough of my fan rant, just wanted to say that if anything, the fact that OT ended up being the method of selection of this year's entry is working to make people much more involved with Eurovision as a whole, and will probably bring new and younger fans of the contest for this year and the next to come.
[MENTION=16116]AmaiaQ[/MENTION] While I agree on your point about OT, let's be honest: too many people were interested in knowing whether Agoney had gone to bed with Ricky, later with Raoul, or if Cepeda was in love with Aitana (but omg Aitana has a boyfriend... has Aitana forgotten her boyfriend???), or if Miriam was "rude" to X person, or they paid more attention to videos of Amaia and Alfred together. All this was totally unnecessary in a musical tv show and sometimes (many times actually) it had more impact than their rehearsals and their progression in the academy. In this sense I kind of understand what [MENTION=13972]Cyberbliss[/MENTION] said. I personally don't care at all about the couple of Amaia and Alfred, I always suspected about Alfred's feelings and intentions with Amaia, and if I support them it's just because I like the song. That's it. To me this is the only thing that should matter.
AmaiaQ
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True, I forgot to add that a side effect of the 24 hours streaming is that the lovers of that reality aspect had a lot to feed their fantasies and arguments. I don't think the show played along to all of it though, if you only saw the Gala's you wouldn't be aware of almost any of those things. Still, what I meant to say is that if you love music you can find a lot to take from OT, and without the reality aspect that wouldn't be possible.
Exactly, I loved watching the rehearsals and to me it was very interesting seeing how they prepared their perfomance, but that side effect went beyond Youtube, we all know it. Many media published articles about Agoney and Ricky, Aiteda, etc. It's a shame they focused on this.