Malmö is hosting ESC 2013
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I am so ashamed of SVT's decision. Tbh I wish we never had won in the first place. "Too big and too expensive" said the executive producer, what kind of lame ass excuse isn't that?SVT can afford to hold the national final at Friends Arena, but not the actual ESC! We might as well cancel it or give it to Copenhagen. SVT and the whole bunch from Malmö are delusional if they think for a second tourists will spend as much as a dime in Malmö, they will arrive at Kastrup, they will stay at Danish hotels and they will eat at Danish restaurants.
Um... don't you think that hosting the national festival is WAY CHEAPER, than hosting the ESC?
GermanBango
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Oh nooo this is a joke right? Nothing against Malmö but ... the "Arena" or better the Hall is even smaller than the Crystal Hall (wich was build in 1 year,btw). Look Sweden, the Atmosphere in Baku was .... well you know .... and you think you will do better with roughly 3000 people less ? I don't think so!
I think we all expected the biggest ESC of all Time but what we get is the SMALLEST Venue since 2002, kind of funny .... and that in SWEDEN a country wich is "Eurovision-Obsessed" ! What the ... !
Please call it a late April Joke ! :shock:
I think we all expected the biggest ESC of all Time but what we get is the SMALLEST Venue since 2002, kind of funny .... and that in SWEDEN a country wich is "Eurovision-Obsessed" ! What the ... !
Please call it a late April Joke ! :shock:
LalehForWD
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Percy Nilsson: "This is the punishment for robbing Icehockey WC from Malmö!" 
Christer Björkman: "Malmö got a bigger heart and love is more evident here".
Christer Björkman: "Malmö got a bigger heart and love is more evident here".
Worst decision ever SVT!
Now Denmark will get most (if not all) of the tourist revenue, while we're the ones paying for the whole thing. Those in northern Sweden will have to travel further to see our own show than most people in Europe. It will be extremely hard to get tickets due to the small arena. Just what the HELL were they thinking?
I don't think, however, that the atmosphere in Baku had anything to do with the seat capacity. Malmö arena is roughly the same size as all the arenas used for Melodifestivalen and the atmosphere during those have all been great. But that doesn't change the fact that Friends Arena is still the only logical and worthy option.
This is all down to the "multiculturalism" that SVT are so fond of. The article on SVT said that they thought Malmö was the best city for this kind of event, which means that since Eurovision is international, they think that the most international city in Sweden (in terms of its citizens) is logically the best choice. What they fail to realize is this is about show-casing Sweden and our Swedish culture. Not other people's cultures. Nothing wrong with those at all, but they're not Swedish. We all know how this is going to go down now. One (or both) of the hosts will likely be of a non-Swedish ethnicity, the interval act will be a Rinkeby/Rosengård dance crew and our entry will ooze multiculturalism. Maybe Kebabpizza Slivovitza #2.
I apologize if I sound like some racist jerk now, I assure you I am not, I'm just fed up with the notion that somehow plain old Sweden just isn't good enough. That our Swedish culture just isn't good enough.
Now Denmark will get most (if not all) of the tourist revenue, while we're the ones paying for the whole thing. Those in northern Sweden will have to travel further to see our own show than most people in Europe. It will be extremely hard to get tickets due to the small arena. Just what the HELL were they thinking?
I don't think, however, that the atmosphere in Baku had anything to do with the seat capacity. Malmö arena is roughly the same size as all the arenas used for Melodifestivalen and the atmosphere during those have all been great. But that doesn't change the fact that Friends Arena is still the only logical and worthy option.
This is all down to the "multiculturalism" that SVT are so fond of. The article on SVT said that they thought Malmö was the best city for this kind of event, which means that since Eurovision is international, they think that the most international city in Sweden (in terms of its citizens) is logically the best choice. What they fail to realize is this is about show-casing Sweden and our Swedish culture. Not other people's cultures. Nothing wrong with those at all, but they're not Swedish. We all know how this is going to go down now. One (or both) of the hosts will likely be of a non-Swedish ethnicity, the interval act will be a Rinkeby/Rosengård dance crew and our entry will ooze multiculturalism. Maybe Kebabpizza Slivovitza #2.
I apologize if I sound like some racist jerk now, I assure you I am not, I'm just fed up with the notion that somehow plain old Sweden just isn't good enough. That our Swedish culture just isn't good enough.
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Am I the only one hoping for Zlatan Ibrahimovic to play a role in ESC 2013?
I mean...growing up in Malmö and everything, he's pretty much a symbol of Malmö as far as diversity and multiculturalism goes. Hosting the event is probably out of the question, but maybe he could be a part of the interval act?
I mean...growing up in Malmö and everything, he's pretty much a symbol of Malmö as far as diversity and multiculturalism goes. Hosting the event is probably out of the question, but maybe he could be a part of the interval act?
He could sing that Zlatan song that came out a few years ago. 
LalehForWD
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First of all: Panta rei
Second: OK, I don't get why you all going on with this multiculturalism angel. What has it to do with Eurovision? What has it todo with Stockholm vs Malmö?
Third: Is Stockholm more Swedish than Malmö?
Mickey
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Most of what I know about Malmo comes from watching The Bridge on BBC4. More than just being a great crime drama, the show was beautiful. Admittedly, it was also set in Copenhagen, but I don't think Malmo was ugly.
Anyway, with Saga Noren working there, I'm sure any murders during ESC will eventually be solved.
Anyway, with Saga Noren working there, I'm sure any murders during ESC will eventually be solved.
Sim
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I don't mind it's in Malmö; but the arena concerns me.
Swedish people are esc-crazy, so they'll fly on to the tickets and I'm doubting how much will be over for international public.
Gettings cards for final will be 99% impossible, semis maybe.
An arena like the friends arena would be better, not that there's a need of 60.000 places but even with 40.000-45.000 it would be good
A bit disappointment in this decision..
Swedish people are esc-crazy, so they'll fly on to the tickets and I'm doubting how much will be over for international public.
Gettings cards for final will be 99% impossible, semis maybe.
An arena like the friends arena would be better, not that there's a need of 60.000 places but even with 40.000-45.000 it would be good
A bit disappointment in this decision..
Mickey
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That wasn't due to lack of size, it was due to the number of ESC fans put off by the cost of travelling to Baku. It wasn't as much of an international crowd as normal.
PoppySnuggleGlass
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Same here! I can't get enough of Scandinavian crime dramas like The Bridge and The Killing!
But I am disappointed by the announcement, I was banking on being able to see it live next year! I even put more money into my ISA and everything!
LalehForWD
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Multiculturalism is what SVT loves displaying and I believe it's for this reason they chose Malmö in the end. The head of SVT, Eva Hamilton, even said so:First of all: Panta rei
Second: OK, I don't get why you all going on with this multiculturalism angel. What has it to do with Eurovision? What has it todo with Stockholm vs Malmö?
Third: Is Stockholm more Swedish than Malmö?
"Mångkulturella Malmö är den idealiska staden för det här internationella evenemanget".
Eurovision 2013 hålls i Malmö Arena - Kultur | SVT.se
Well, considering how all of Skåne once belonged to Denmark and much of the Danish heritage is still evident there, I'd say that Malmö is perhaps not the typical Swedish city. None of the towns or cities in Skåne are (and I've been to a lot of them). Not that it matters really, but historically and traditionally Stockholm is more Swedish than Malmö, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I meant that why must we incorporate other people's cultures all the time, why can't we ever do something genuinely Swedish?! Since Eva Hamilton's already said 'Multicultural Malmö" we can almost be 100% sure they are going to play that angle.
My comment: Malmö is a nice, but not the best choice, I think :/
I would prefer Friends Arena, the arena is bigger + I'm sure that there are many ESC fans who want to visit Sweden and go to ESC, so there would be more tickets for ESC fans
+ I think that ESC is very popular in Sweden, so with Friends Arena there would be a lot of tickets for both Swedish and other fans
Anyway, I don't think that we should already be pessimistic, personally I think that Sweden will put a lot of effort in organizing of ESC and that everything will be great
I would prefer Friends Arena, the arena is bigger + I'm sure that there are many ESC fans who want to visit Sweden and go to ESC, so there would be more tickets for ESC fans
+ I think that ESC is very popular in Sweden, so with Friends Arena there would be a lot of tickets for both Swedish and other fans
Anyway, I don't think that we should already be pessimistic, personally I think that Sweden will put a lot of effort in organizing of ESC and that everything will be great
Mickey
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Haha, Sofia Helin (Saga Norén)Do you understand her crazy character?
Yeah, sure. Scandinavian crime dramas are very popular over here. I loved the humour in The Bridge, a large part of which was drawn from Saga's unusual world view.
Complaining about the name of the city? Really? Yeah cause Düsseldorf was definitely the easiest name to pronounce for foreigners. I believe many people had trouble saying "Baku" as well. That's NOT the problem for goodness sake! The problem with Malmö is that nobody will be able to get a ticket! I remember how hard it was for me to get a ticket for Düsseldorf and they had more seats! This is just ridiculous! And the tourism will go to Copenhagen so you could as well just move the event to Denmark and call it Copenhagen 2013 instead... I don't understand why they didn't give it to Stockholm. I live closer to Malmö but seriously, chances of getting a ticket in Stockholm would have been much bigger than getting one for Malmö since there are only 500 - 15 500 possible seats (I'm guessing they will take in about 14 000 people).
Megasalt
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Yay, my city will host eurovision! Can't believe they didn't choose Stockholm. It feels wrong to have it in a venue this small, when you have other alternatives. Eurovision deserves and needs a larger venue than Malmö Arena.
Can't believe they didn't choose Stockholm. It feels wrong to have it in a venue this small, when you have other alternatives. Eurovision deserves and needs a larger venue than Malmö Arena.