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Israel ISRAEL 2018 - Netta Barzilai - Toy

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Sammy

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I am pretty sure Jews are familiar with the bible, both old and new testament at least much more aware than many other nations in the world? Am I incorrect?

I never said Netta`s religion has got anything to do with anything. I am just saying that the bible (God) tells believers to live by certain type of values. Forgiveness and giving 2nd, 3rd etc. chances is one of them. Am I incorrect?

And the third point you came up with is just so stupid I don`t really need to reply to this, do I?

ad 1: yes you are wrong. If you bring in the bible and judaism, stick to the book that's relevant to the religion in question. You wouldn't remind a buddhist of hindou vedas, though both religions come from the same source. So why are you reminding jews of a book that is not holy to them?

ad 2: why are you bringing religion then up in the first place? Religious beliefs and commandments are irrelevant in this discussion.

ad 3: yes the third point is extremely stupid - and I think you were not really wanting to say this when you wrote your bible allusion, but if you think through it, then you might realize that what you said means actually this. Because the quote from the bible is NOT saying give another chance. It is saying: turn the other cheek. If you read the context of the quote, then you see that's even more radical. In the next verse (or the previous, I don't quite remember) it says: if somebody takes your coat give him your shirt as well. Jesus is NOT talking about forgiveness in this part of the mountain sermon.
So here you are right - a reply is really not needed. But a bit of cautiousness before posting might be useful sometimes. I understand (because I follow your discussion since quite a while) that this topic really upsets you and you get emotional, but still...
 

bochan

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There is a difference between being offended (which I am not btw, because the chicken dancing women never can do that to me - I just think lyrics make no sense and have got nth to do with me and majority of guys) and reacting to that feeling. And not negatively reacting is what "turn the cheek" means.

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Bsimmons

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Because the quote from the bible is NOT saying give another chance. It is saying: turn the other cheek. If you read the context of the quote, then you see that's even more radical. In the next verse (or the previous, I don't quite remember) it says: if somebody takes your coat give him your shirt as well. Jesus is NOT talking about forgiveness in this part of the mountain sermon.

Can you enlighten me what the "turn the cheek" part means then (you can do it by a message too, because it gets off topic) ... because "show forgiveness/give another chance" is actually exactly how most people understand/quote this part of the bible in where I live.
 

Charly

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All I know, theres too many versions of the bible :lol: but which 1 would be the original xthink does remind me the religious convo between my mum and some Jehovah Witness trying to make her convert even though she is true to her religion of Islam :lol: proselytizing is illegal in Morocco especially with the reports of Nuns getting deported due to proselytizing:lol:

Back to the main topic,

Odds are red, could this be the end of Queen Netta on top of the odds? xthink
 

Chorizo

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Ana Raquel

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i still don't see a winner performance but it's better than 1st rehearsal already (not that it's hard but.......)
 

0scar

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The exclusive rehearsal clip of :il:.. honestly it's fairly good. The thirty seconds we can see look quirky and funny enough to be a winner, not weird. They've done a good job
 

lolita

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The exclusive rehearsal clip of :il:.. honestly it's fairly good. The thirty seconds we can see look quirky and funny enough to be a winner, not weird. They've done a good job

Yeah, camera cuts are amazing, even if I am not huge fan of the song, it looks great, it will win televote 99% sure.
 

Trece

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miles better then 1st time, tv-look saves the performance
 

Alaska49

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once again, repeat after me:

selâm selâm hand in hand on the journey to jerusalem 2019 ������
 

DirtyFalcon

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By moments it looks like a joke act. And the rehearsal footage confirme that so much.
 

0scar

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Okay I'm back on the hype train for :il:. I certainly wouldn't mind Jerusalem 2019.
 
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