lolita
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The same goes for some singers: if you aren't able to sound at least decent, while you're performing live, then you shouldn't have become a singer.
Hahaha, yeah, literally, the best comment here. Right to the point!
Israel ISRAEL 2018 - Netta Barzilai - Toy
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Hahaha, yeah, literally, the best comment here. Right to the point!
Bsimmons
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The same goes for some singers: if you aren't able to sound at least decent, while you're performing live, then you shouldn't have become a singer.
I think her performance still qualifies as "lower end of decent", but it seems to me she has a huge potential of totally messing it up come May. This was pretty much a no pressure situation singing in front of her home crowd. She looked nervous, she sounded nervous at times. She had no staging, so nothing else in her mind than just hitting her notes. And she still was messy.
Add 10x more pressure and stage performance that she has to think about ... and this could be ... well disappointing to say the least.
Iker
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What the hell are people complaining aboutThis was good. And It's not the Eurovision performance. It will be amazing.
Still freaking love this.
I do love it too
I think people are freaking out too much right now. Pre-ESC party gigs usually sound and look like that, Netta was not bad, I am optimistic. The same goes for Belgium.
Mykola
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After the pre-party in Israel , I am more than sure, Netta will not win, it will be a big flop from the first place in Betting Odds
lolita
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After the pre-party in Israel , I am more than sure, Netta will not win, it will be a big flop from the first place in Betting Odds
Yeah, she is all red in Betting Odds. I wouldn't be surprised if Bulgaria would take first place soon, they are rising quickly towards first place..
And they deserve it, which I couldn't say for Israel or Czech Republic ( both are the most overrated songs this year and too high placed).
lolita
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Yeah, but we will see! I really don't have a clue who will win this year, there are at least around 10 possible winners.
ZoboCamel
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Yeah, she is all red in Betting Odds. I wouldn't be surprised if Bulgaria would take first place soon, they are rising quickly towards first place..
Israel's actually been pretty stable in the odds for the last couple of days. They lengthened a bit following the recent preview concert (from 2.8-ish to now 3.3-ish), but haven't really moved since, and 3.3 was about the norm for the week or two before the concert, so this is nothing new.
You're right in that Bulgaria is continuing to shorten - they've been gradually coming down for the last fortnight or so from a high of 30 to now sit a little under 8. The trend seems to be slowing, though, and all of the market leaders have now shown at least one live performance, so I'd imagine the market will be mostly steady until rehearsals begin. Netta's #1 spot is likely safe for another couple of weeks, I'd say, barring something unexpected (a particularly atrocious live performance from Netta, leaked staging concepts of Israel or another contender, etc.).
Past that, though... yeah, it's very hard to tell. While Israel's still the clear market favourite for now, she's sitting at longer odds than most Eurovision market leaders tend to, and the last fortnight or so before the final tends to have huge market shifts. Netta falling out of first at that period of the season would be minor compared to upsets in previous years - remember that e.g. Italy 2016 and Russia 2015 were both easily sub-2s for a while in terms of odds, compared to Netta's 3.3, while Jamala was around 40 at this point and Salvador at around 20, which is much longer than current odds for e.g. Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Australia.
TL;DR Bulgaria overtaking Israel in the odds seems rather unlikely at this point of the season, since we simply won't be getting much new information over the next couple of weeks, but anything can happen once the rehearsals start.
lolita
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Yes, that is all true, maybe Bulgaria will take over first place if they would have better, more epic stage and performance then Netta, they can surprise us. It is hard to tell about winner now, simply because we don't know who would do well both with juries and public vote. Those songs that are more public friendly, are less jury friendly ( mostly) and other way. I am expecting even some situation like in 2015 and 2016. I am not sure, but that way it could be.
Ezio
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I don't think Israel will win because I think Hungary will win.
But to be more concise, another angry woman with a dancebeat on a hype train once terribly crashed not too long ago.
Fierce ladies most exclusively seem to only work well inside the bubble.
But to be more concise, another angry woman with a dancebeat on a hype train once terribly crashed not too long ago.
Fierce ladies most exclusively seem to only work well inside the bubble.
LalehForWD
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"angry woman"? In what way do find Netta angry?
lolita
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Probably because she despises a man(men) in her song. She seems angry and arrogant, but just in music video, she is cute and nice out of it.
lolita
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She is really unique, only juries could stop her to win this all, but maybe they will rank her as high as possible, and then we will have another hit winner after Loreen.
Ezio
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Same Heart was an angry diva song with a beat, that flopped big. But this year, I am pretty sure, Israel well do very well.
BernadetteCydonia
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let's hope that it does tbh B)
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I think Toy is the type of song that is huge among the ESC bubble but is not anything too special for most people. My friend gave it a listen because of the hype and was surprised because it sounded like nothing special, even described it as "random catchy pop song".
