Eurovision 2014: Confirmed Countries

[BGN]

Countries still got time to withdraw after (not sure until when though).

Until 15th December

 

[AdelAdel]

Well, not really. This is the deadline to confirm interest, it doesn't even have to be officially made, just as long as its confirmed for the EBU. Countries still got time to withdraw after (not sure until when though). Usually though, the countries confirming now tend to stay in if nothing extraordinary happens.

I was asking about something else, I knew about that withdrawing thing. What I did ask was if for example Serbia or Poland doesn't confirm by the end of today, then they won't be able to take part in ESC 2014?

 

[A-lister]

I was asking about something else, I knew about that withdrawing thing. What I did ask was if for example Serbia or Poland doesn't confirm by the end of today, then they won't be able to take part in ESC 2014?

But I actually did answer your question though!

Confirmations can be made without the public knowing about them (so technically a country can confirm interest to the EBU and then keep it a secret until the deadline so we all will think that they actually withdrew... hence why it's not that simply to give a straight answer to your question).

And yeah, I assume if countries did not confirm to EBU today, they're out. But this I'm not 100% sure about either.

And what I also wrote that, even if countries would confirm today, they can still be out. So point is that whatever information we get today, may not show the whole picture or even end up like that.

 

[BGN]

Yes, countries that don't confirm until today are out for sure - they won't be eligible to sign up after that. There is just one exception - Greece.
Countries, which initially confirm their participation, will have another chance to withdraw without penalty and this could happen until 15.12. After that all countries which want to withdraw will have to pay penalties.

 

[AdelAdel]

There is just one exception - Greece.

Why is Greece an exception?

 

[A-lister]

Why is Greece an exception?

Probably because they are trying to fix this new broadcaster and asked for more time.

 

[BGN]

Yes, they were given some more time, because of their new broadcaster NERIT, which aplication for EBU membership is still pending. If they manage to resolve these things until the end of December, Greece will take part. That's why the offcial list of participating countries will be released in the first days of January.

For all other countries the deadlines are as follow
- November, 22nd - initial registration for the competition.
If the broadcasters sign up, they could withdraw from Eurovision until December, 15th without paying fines. After that they could withdraw again, but they will have to pay penalty, which is almost equal to their participation fee.

 

[A-lister]

Yes, they were given some more time, because of their new broadcaster NERIT, which aplication for EBU membership is still pending. If they manage to resolve these things until the end of December, Greece will take part. That's why the offcial list of participating countries will be released in the first days of January.

For all other countries the deadlines are as follow
- November, 22nd - initial registration for the competition.
If the broadcasters sign up, they could withdraw from Eurovision until December, 15th without paying fines. After that they could withdraw again, but they will have to pay penalty, which is almost equal to their participation fees.

I must say though that it's a bit odd how Greece can just get a free-pass like that, while other countries had their broadcasters pending for years (Lichtenstein and Kazakhstan for instance). Sure I know that NERIT is more a less a stripped-down version of ERT and that Greece got history with the contest, but still.

 

[BGN]

The same happened also with Slovakia in 2011, when they created new joint company from their radio and television, and the new broadcaster had been granted with EBU membership very fast. As far, as I know, there are other, faster procedures for new public broadcasters, which are successors of old EBU members (like the case with Slovakia and Greece now).

Liechetnstein's TV is private channel with no public grant at all and cannot be EBU member for now. Kazakhstan is not within the European Broadcasting Area, defined by ITU, so they cannot be EBU members by definition.

 

[ESCPOLAND]

YEs that' true! I hope that TVP will confirm us!

 

[A-lister]

The same happened also with Slovakia in 2011, when they created new joint company from their radio and television, and the new broadcaster had been granted with EBU membership very fast. As far, as I know, there are other, faster procedures for new public broadcasters, which are successors of old EBU members (like the case with Slovakia and Greece now).

Yeah, I mean it makes sense since they are successors of fresh previous EBU members afterall.

Liechetnstein's TV is private channel with no public grant at all and cannot be EBU member for now. Kazakhstan is not within the European Broadcasting Area, defined by ITU, so they cannot be EBU members by definition.

TV4 in Sweden is a private channel, yet it's part of the EBU, so what you say there is not actually accurate. As for Kazakhstan, well I think it's time for EBU to redefine the Broadcasting Area, because time and technology has changed since they first defined that map. Also, I still think it's odd how countries totally unrelated to Europe like Iraq could be picked over countries that atleast have some (both geographical and cultural) relation.

 

[dragvision]

i think the next to confirm is
at risk
out
status pending but sure to esc 2014

 

[dragvision]

DR have confirmed 35 countrys in Kobenhaben

 

[A-lister]

i think the next to confirm is
at risk
out
status pending but sure to esc 2014

I actually think Greece will manage to sort it out, however I think we might lose Slovenia this year...

Poland is probably not coming back, although I'd want them to.

Moldova and Serbia, I think are 90% in...

 

[A-lister]

DR have confirmed 35 countrys in Kobenhaben

Incorrect, no official source has confirmed any (final) numbers yet.

 

[BGN]

Yeah, I mean it makes sense since they are successors of fresh previous EBU members afterall.



TV4 in Sweden is a private channel, yet it's part of the EBU,

Private companies could be EBU members, but they should use public money to make some specific TV programmes. In some countries this is possible. I don't know for Sweden and TV4, but in The Netherlands this is possible and they have many private channels, eligible to be EBU members, because of their public mission. In Bulgaria this is not possible, as only BNT and BNR are listed as public broadcasters. The private channels don't get money from the budget.

Members of the EBU are radio and television companies, most of which are government-owned public service broadcasters or privately owned stations with public service missions.

In the Liectenstein's case this is quite different.

 

[A-lister]

^
I highly doubt TV4 gets any state funds, but then again they seem to be just as much of a political propaganda machine as state-owned SVT, so maybe they do get some bribery

 

[malta]

anymore news on countries confirming and what time do they have till to confirm ?

 

[ESC]

At the moment I believe we will see 37 countries in Denmark. Greece and Moldova will participate, but Poland and Slovenia will withdraw (or don't come back).

 

[GRE]

At the moment,we have 34 confirmed countries.