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LOL, and as usual you are totally pessimistic :)
Nevertheless, I agree on many things... Wouldn't stand Måns Zelmerlöw hosting. I also think Europe indeed wants to see something SWEDISH. We have seen a lot of postcards and interval acts with a southern touch lately. It's time for something more northern imo...
For hosts i actually like Ana Gina and Sarah Dawn Finer. Let's for once have some genuinely funny people as hosts.

Ana Gina is a disaster and not funny at all. Sarah has a nice personality, but obviously only funny when she's in character.

Måns is overrated. He's got the looks, but I don't think he's a good host, he is kinda forced like his ex- Marie Serneholt is.

I hope we will get something genuine Swedish as interval acts, but knowing SVT they will try to lay their PC cr*p on all Europe.. only Europe doesn't care and will just laugh at it.
 

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ice isn't blue and yellow :confused:
and yes, we all know that ice can be yellow but let's not go there xrofl2

Haha ok you meant Ice lol... thought you refereed to our flag colors.. I should have read your post more closely :lol:
 

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I have a general question about Sweden. Why is it that people there are so good looking on the one hand, but on the hand the suicide rate in Sweden is high above average...?
 

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Hi guys, I'm back! I just had to say something else on the topic of the interval act; as I said I would like something that really showcases swedish culture and yes I'd like it to be traditional... But I was cruising youtube and saw the video for the song "dansa pausa". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9MSeE1l80&feature=branded

And this video, together with the african men performing and the song that has african rhythms but is sung entirely in swedish, to me is almost a perfect description of swedish culture today. I really, really love this and I'm not saying that SVT should hire these guys to perform on the spot, but maybe it's something like this that should represent us? Because why not?


What I love about sweden has always been the way it truly embraces every culture in the world. Obviously this exact thing has become a hot political issue and I'm not going to lie and say that I don't see where SD is coming from with all of this - as an immigrant myself even I sometimes think that god damn it those effing immigrants... And since I'm born and raised in Sweden (much like our darling Loreen :D) a huge part of my identity is swedish so I've always seen myself as such, and I think this is true to all 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants - we count ourselves as swedish, even if we still carry our "other" culture with us. My point is that, to an increasing amount of swedes, this video is what swedish culture is, a mix of everything - black men dressing according to swedish fashion, singing to rhythms from their first culture in the language of their second one. I'm starting to think that maybe this is what I want Europe to know about us.

EEW ... plz don't!

You talk like Sweden started to exist in the past decade or something, you read too much Aftonbladet. We're one of the oldest nation-states in Europe and have 1000 years history atleast. I don't want that political correct mess to be showcased.

Don't get me wrong, I love that song and I acknowledge both good and bad stuff with current Sweden, but I want us to showcase something more traditional and that is what Europe expects from us. I mean why should Sweden be the only country not allowed to showcase it's traditions and history? We DO Have them aswell you know?

I'm also and immigrant but I respect this country and I think we should acknowledge its history and culture. This would be a disaster and I'm afraid SVT is thinking like this, but it'll just look stupid for the rest of Europe.

I pray to God SVT won't make a fool out of themselves like this. Sweden has just as much culture and traditions worth showcasing as any other country. Why only focus all the time on the past decade and only on immigrants? It's like saying Swedes and all the history doesn't even exist. It's very disrespectful.
 

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I have a general question about Sweden. Why is it that people there are so good looking on the one hand, but on the hand the suicide rate in Sweden is high above average...?

:lol:
 

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Yes! Get the company that did the graphics for MF to do the graphics this year, no more Turquoise Branding!
And Sarah/Gina/Mans would be fantastic, although maybe Christine Meltzer or Bjorn Gustafsson would also do very well as hosts!

Only Sarah is a worthy name there.

Gina is a disaster, Måns is forced, Christine is a screaming mess and Björn isn't even funny. Gosh I'd rather have the Azeri hosts back.
 

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Anyways, he seems nice enough and also he's popular and handsome, knows german/english quite well, and has the experience. I think he'd be great! I'd like for his co-host to be a woman who isn't so... flashy. Like, definitely not Victoria Silvstedt who has a career built around that men wants her as their f***-puppet (sorry but come on!), but more of a down to earth, funny and confident woman - but still edgy. Because Sweden has loads and loads of intelligent women in the media who are all of these things, I feel like this is what SVT should choose. I'm not even sure I have a name to suggest but maybe, I don't now.. Kitty Jutbring and Elsa Billgren? Haha sounds kind of weird but maybe you guys understand what I'm going after. I guess one could argue Gina Dirawi fits the description but I'm not too fond of her so I'd rather not see her on my screen again!

Kitty and Elsa more intelligent than Victoria? Maybe in a parallel universe.

Stop with the Jantelag finally, it's nothing wrong in being blonde and have big boobies and made a career out of it. Those you mentioned are just flum (as we say in Swedish), one stupider than the other. I want to showcase Sweden as an outgoing, hot and fun country... not a boring country or something filled with left-field wierdos that think they are smart just because they don't care about their looks or dress like old grandmas.
 

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Why don't you answer me?

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Ok, I was mistaken.... it's the Finnish who go suicidal....
 

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A-lister, you are quite puzzling sometimes. On one hand you speak of wanting to honor the rich historical cultural traditions of Sweden, and yet you seem almost allergic to something that is equally deeply rooted in the Swedish culture and something that has been the backbone of our country for centuries, namely the Jantelag. So you want a traditional interval act that showcases the true Sweden (which I agree), but you want hosts with a non-traditional "non-Swedish" disposition.
 

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A-lister, you are quite puzzling sometimes. On one hand you speak of wanting to honor the rich historical cultural traditions of Sweden, and yet you seem almost allergic to something that is equally deeply rooted in the Swedish culture and something that has been the backbone of our country for centuries, namely the Jantelag. So you want a traditional interval act that showcases the true Sweden (which I agree), but you want hosts with a non-traditional "non-Swedish" disposition.

There's good and bad with everything. Jantelagen is a sort of lutheran mindset made extreme by the years of Social Democratic domination in our society. I'd say it's just as political as cultural, and I don't want politics involved.

I just want to show the fun and exiting Sweden, not the correct and boring one (and with fun I don't mean stupid and disrespectful fun - I don't want the show to turn into a comedy show a la Björn Gustafsson or Kristian Luuk).

I don't believe that Swedes have to be boring or correct, it's a misassumption, and I want SVT to take this opportunity to really showcase our "muscles" so to speak (if we have any) and really take this opportunity to really show Europe Swedish culture and throw in some exciting famous Swedes in the mix to make the hosting parts enjoyable and exciting.

Swedes and probably SVT tend to forget that this is a platform to showcase Sweden and supply European demand. I'm afraid they'll take it as an opportunity to make domestic political statements instead, which frankly is not what I want Europe to have to sit through... it's bad enough as it is already, I don't want us to be a laughing stock for whole Europe.

That's why any political correct mess they're planning, I hope we won't see. I think Sweden should be showcased - our culture and traditions and what makes us "famous" so to speak. Cliché with a twist :)

I mean I reacted at the comment that this should be a celebration about the last decades immigration to Sweden... seriously? Is THAT all Sweden? What about the rest of the 1000 years? Would Europe even be interested? I bet they wouldn't be... probably just turned-off and confused... they'll probably think we have some problems with self-esteem or something (which we have).

Why can't we have a show without a political doctrine? I have no hopes for SVT leaving out their "message" in this... if Europe thinks that Sweden has no culture but only "imported" ones... then why would they pay us any attention? What would make us unique? Absolutely nothing. Countries without any soul or something unique is unattractive.

So I hope SVT won't pretend that Sweden only has a 20 year old history, a history that is partly forced upon and not really the choice of the masses anyways.
 

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There's good and bad with everything. Jantelagen is a sort of lutheran mindset made extreme by the years of Social Democratic domination in our society. I'd say it's just as political as cultural, and I don't want politics involved.

I just want to show the fun and exiting Sweden, not the correct and boring one (and with fun I don't mean stupid and disrespectful fun - I don't want the show to turn into a comedy show a la Björn Gustafsson or Kristian Luuk).

I don't believe that Swedes have to be boring or correct, it's a misassumption, and I want SVT to take this opportunity to really showcase our "muscles" so to speak (if we have any) and really take this opportunity to really show Europe Swedish culture and throw in some exciting famous Swedes in the mix to make the hosting parts enjoyable and exciting.

Swedes and probably SVT tend to forget that this is a platform to showcase Sweden and supply European demand. I'm afraid they'll take it as an opportunity to make domestic political statements instead, which frankly is not what I want Europe to have to sit through... it's bad enough as it is already, I don't want us to be a laughing stock for whole Europe.

That's why any political correct mess they're planning, I hope we won't see. I think Sweden should be showcased - our culture and traditions and what makes us "famous" so to speak. Cliché with a twist :)

I mean I reacted at the comment that this should be a celebration about the last decades immigration to Sweden... seriously? Is THAT all Sweden? What about the rest of the 1000 years? Would Europe even be interested? I bet they wouldn't be... probably just turned-off and confused... they'll probably think we have some problems with self-esteem or something (which we have).

Why can't we have a show without a political doctrine? I have no hopes for SVT leaving out their "message" in this... if Europe thinks that Sweden has no culture but only "imported" ones... then why would they pay us any attention? What would make us unique? Absolutely nothing. Countries without any soul or something unique is unattractive.

So I hope SVT won't pretend that Sweden only has a 20 year old history, a history that is partly forced upon and not really the choice of the masses anyways.
Thanks for explaining further. I totally understand what you mean and I agree with you. I personally LOVED when Kristian Luuk was the host as it's totally my sense of humor (him, Fredrik Lindström and Killing-gänget), but it would never work for Europe as it's perhaps too Swedish.

I didn't think Kattis and Anders were that bad to be honest (Harald Treutiger was way worse). A bit stiff and un-exciting perhaps, but I thought their opening was hilarious when they spoke in all the random languages.

I'd almost be fine with anyone as long as it isn't SVT's embarrassing go-to-guy Rickard Olsson. I think I'll puke if he gets yet another show on SVT. Or that way-too-cheerful-for-her-own-good Malin Olsson.
 

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Problem with Kristan Luuk and that "gang" is that they may be fun, but not in occasions like these. I think the hosts CAN be fun, but it still has to be with respect towards the contest, which I think he never showed as host for MF or commentator in ESC.

Kattis and Anders were a bore, I never liked any of them.

Rickard Olsson is annoying and I guess thank God I dunno who this Malin is then (atleast not just by her name) :lol:
 

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In a hindsight the 2000 Eurovision was a bit boring, although the events in Copenhagen and Tallinn were definitely worse.

I think 1997 Dublin and 1998 Birmingham were the standard setting song contests of that time.

I will never forgive you for introducing this horrible scoreboard :(
 

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Ι have only one wish for the show..!
Helena Paparizou being one of the hosts..!
 
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