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Hoperfully if Kosovo joins in Eurovision, then South Ossetia & Abkhazia will have the free way to make their debut even if 
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Hoperfully if Kosovo joins in Eurovision, then South Ossetia & Abkhazia will have the free way to make their debut even if
South Ossetia and Abkhazia are recognized only by one country that has taken part in the Eurovision (Russia), whereas Kosovo is recognised by 32 countries that have participated in the Eurovision. There is no chance that South Ossetia and Abkhazia will debut any time soon, whereas Kosovo's debut is more possible. Personally I do not think it will happen any time soon as it may cause withdrawal of Spain, Cyprus, Israel and Russia.
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My country, Nicaragua and Nauru recognize South Ossetia & Abkhazia as well.
If they attempt to join in EBU and try to participate in Eurovision and got blocked by Georgia, then will show that EBU are hypocritical and they have double standards in things they are interested.
If Kosovo really came to participate in Eurovision, then Serbia will arming a drama and will withdraw, as well as Greece, Cyprus and Spain maybe, but i doubt Russia will.
It is a country.
Stay deluded, tho, kiss kiss laffy taffy.
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This comment perfectly describes everything that "PRO-Kosovo" people argue for here. You don't want to extended the Eurovision family, you only want to provoke and cause stir on these pages.
The original poster who started this also did this in order to provoke, and the emoticon he put in his post reflects that 100%.
I couldn't care less about your intentions or your motivations, but anyway my message for you, and in the same style as yours - When you see Kosovo on Eurovision, ask your mother what else happened before you woke up.
Kosovo was, is and will be Serbia for eternity, and you can cry as much as you want. You will not see it on Eurovision, you will not see it on any important international event, therefore your posts are pointless.
End of the story.
I know, but none of South American countries participate in Eurovision (and none of them will ever participate in Eurovision). Russia is the only one that has ever participated in Eurovision and has recognised it... On the other hand, Kosovo has been recognised by many countries in Europe. Moreover, Kosovo took part in the Eurovision Young Dancers.
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Scotland is represented under the United Kingdom, as Sardinia is with Italy. The Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey.
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Why 'hold' the people of Kosovo in Serbia against their will? For me, any country that controls itself independently is a valid country - including Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia and should be recognised as such.
You do understand that this "status quo" that Kosovo has is a result of taking it from us by force and not as a result of "will of Kosovo people" right? And who are these "people of Kosovo"? Do you know anything about Kosovo at all?
The other part of the sentence about South Ossetia, Abhkazia etc I better not even comment, your words said enough.
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If the people of history had followed the modern day interpretation of a valid country, 1/2 of Europe wouldn't exist. Things change.
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Regardless of your political views on the matter, Kosovo participated in Eurovision Young Dancers in 2011 and so will be able to part in the Eurovision Song Contest in 2016. Those are the facts.
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RTK doesn't have the EBU membership, so it can't participate in the ESC.
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It didn't when it participated in Eurovision Young Dancers.
Australia didn't have full EBU membership this year.
Armenia didn't in 2006.
The fact they're only associate members doesn't matter anymore, precedence has been set.
Sabiondo
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In Eurovision Young Dancers you don't need becoming EBU membership for participate
Armenia got guaranteed their membership in 2005 prior to their debut one year later.
Australia got invited in ESC (Hopefully just for this year 60th anniversary) just because they lobby for it, for years.
EBU can not change the rules at their will because then it would be very obvious their internal racism that they have with certain countries who wants to participate in ESC as Kazakhstan.
So, in other words, it is perfectly ok for a group of people to occupy a certain territory and proclaim it as their own country. Tomorrow, if a group of immigrants proclaim, let's say London as an independent country, a country of their own, that would also be perfectly reasonable and good for you. Yeah sure.........
We will never give Kosovo away, so you can forget about that this moment. We have fought to defend it since Middle Ages, we are fighting to defend it nowadays as well. And this hocus-pocus will not last forever anyway, as soon as the projectors of "Great Albania" get out of
butt (in political terms), Kosovo's status will drastically change. You do realize that EYD is even a less important event than JESC? And that is quite an achievement. The number of participants says it all. A number of participants has to be filled somehow.
EYD is completely irrelevant event that no one really cares about, Kosovo is not going to participate in any relevant and/or important international event and that's what matters.
Y'all could do the decent thing and, like, give them a referendum or something? Like we did with Scotland. Since when does 'fought to defend since the middle ages' justify holding it? The majority of people in Kosovo aren't Serbs (Despite Milosevic's best efforts) so the attitude that Serbia has some kind of mystical claim to Kosovo needs to disappear fast. The Albanians and Kosovars of Kosovo are not 'occupying' it, they've been there for hundreds of years
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It doesn't matter how important the Contest is - that's very subjective anyway: EYD had 10 participating countries in 2011 and JESC 13, not much difference - what matters is that precedence has been set that Kosovo can partake in a Eurovision competition. What reason can you possibly come up with to say that a country should be able to take part in one Eurovision contest and not another?
Kosovo can pretty much take part in ESC whenever it wants to/whenever it's got the means. The Government of Kosovo seem to think that they will have the means to take part from 2016 onwards, so I imagine we will be seeing them
And just as I'm glad that we have Serbia in the Contest, I will be glad if we have Kosovo too.
Now I'm waiting for Liberland
[MENTION=12078]AshleyWright[/MENTION] [MENTION=9441]RainyWoods[/MENTION]
Yes, Liberland is what this contest needs.
This sentence proves that you know absolutely nothing about Kosovo. Everything you stated is horribly incorrect and extremely insulting to me as a person from
and to all who victims who were massacred by the people on Kosovo. It's not your fault for not knowing but it is dangerous to enter arguments like this without any knowledge and that is why I said dozens of times that it is best to stay aside if you have no clue what you are talking about because you will end up in a very nasty situation. 1) Albanians are NOT present in Kosovo for thousands of years, that is a notorius lie. I don't even know where did you get this from? If you got it from some Kosovar Albanian, just to let you know,
nationalists are well known for fabricating alternative history, they even now claim that Serbian monasteries and Serbian heroes are actually theirs, which again says wnough. They actually started to become more prevalent on the area since the beginning of 20th Century. Yet again, they are someone who came as a stranger to Kosovo who is a Serbian territory. Just like majority of Serbs went to Vienna, and nowadays you can hear Serbian on the streets of Vienna like all the time. So, judging to what you propose, tomorrow Serbs in Vienna can demand Vienna to become a state of their own, and that would be totally ok and acceptable.2) Do you even have any idea why at this point, the Albanian people are indeed the majority of the population? Well, let me tell you - because they were burning and destroying houses and killing
people on Kosovo, opening their bodies and selling their organs to various "consumers". I recommend you to read a book of Carla Del Ponte about the trading of Serbian organs on Kosovo, you will learn a lot of things. You ask why do we permit this? Well, when we stood up, we got bombs on our faces from the democratic leaders of
who are standing behind them. has the interest for Kosovo to not be ours anymore, so that is the exact reason why it has this status. 3) Albanians are doing the same now in
They are occupying their lands too, so should we welcome themas well into the international community? Of course, if the World Leaders decide that those regions are not but new countries, because they have the absolute right to put their noses wherever they feel the need.4) Similar to situation in Kosovo, in Vojvodina where I live, though it is a multicultural place, there is a bunch of
people. They want Vojvodina to be independent too, and yet that will never even be discussed. DO you know why (based on what you have read now)?Ahhhh noooo, that film you are not going to watch. If such thing ever happens, Serbia will be out 100000%, and I will be the first one to advocate our withdrawal. So, you choose - nonexistant self-proclaimed country or a member of the ESC family that contributed a lot with its songs and even hosted one Eurovision event in the near future.