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Let's invite Greenland
Why?? And btw it belongs to Denmark!
I also don't want countries like Kazakhstan or any north african one in the contest! It's an EUROPEAN contest!
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Why?? And btw it belongs to Denmark!
I also don't want countries like Kazakhstan or any north african one in the contest! It's an EUROPEAN contest!
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number 41!
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=173093
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=173093
ZoboCamel
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Australia's in! And, while, vague, there's a hint that there's still one more country to go. SBS' communications manager, who first made the announcement, said in his tweet that 'Australia will officially compete in Eurovision in 2016 with a new Australian artist going up against 41 countries.' 'Going up against 41' implies 41 others, so... hopefully we'll see Bosnia & Herzegovina or someone else confirm too?
Sabiondo
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So, the next year we can open threads from EBU Associated members as China, South Africa, Brazil, Chile, New Zealand, USA, etc..
ParadiseES
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I feel so angry and cheated. Jan Ola Sand and his team must leave as soon as possible before it's too late. For many reasons:
- We are so fed up of these stupid changes. Eurovision has a 60 years history and it's living one of its best moments now. So there's nothing why there should be any major change, like accepting country from the antipodes or changing draw for corruption in the running order. Everything with most of the fans against it. In a contest which belongs to the fans, and the public, not to bureaucrats who are slotted in.
- The fatal consequences this could have to the Eurovision concept.
- The snub EBU did to other European countries with this decission. They let Australia in, but they do absolutely nothing to get Portugal, Slovakia or Croatia back; countries which have more rights to be in Eurovision and I don't need to explain the reasons.
- The most important of all: LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. Western democracies like ours can barely accept poor managements like Jan Ola's, it's more difficult to accept when the one in charge deliberately breaks the rules to take one decission. But the least acceptable thing and the reason why this man and his team can stay one more minute in EBU not to ruin any prestige the institution has left, is that HE LIED to all of us. They told us Australia was only a special guest for the 60 anniversary, "one year and no more" and now it's clear it was everything planned. EBU is not only unfair and a mess, but it shows its absolute lack of ethics. Unforgivable.
- We are so fed up of these stupid changes. Eurovision has a 60 years history and it's living one of its best moments now. So there's nothing why there should be any major change, like accepting country from the antipodes or changing draw for corruption in the running order. Everything with most of the fans against it. In a contest which belongs to the fans, and the public, not to bureaucrats who are slotted in.
- The fatal consequences this could have to the Eurovision concept.
- The snub EBU did to other European countries with this decission. They let Australia in, but they do absolutely nothing to get Portugal, Slovakia or Croatia back; countries which have more rights to be in Eurovision and I don't need to explain the reasons.
- The most important of all: LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. Western democracies like ours can barely accept poor managements like Jan Ola's, it's more difficult to accept when the one in charge deliberately breaks the rules to take one decission. But the least acceptable thing and the reason why this man and his team can stay one more minute in EBU not to ruin any prestige the institution has left, is that HE LIED to all of us. They told us Australia was only a special guest for the 60 anniversary, "one year and no more" and now it's clear it was everything planned. EBU is not only unfair and a mess, but it shows its absolute lack of ethics. Unforgivable.
If they wanted to make ESC more international,
they could find another solution: having each year, one guest country from the Rest of the World.
Even if i wasn't one of the advocates of Kazak participation,
i feel sorry for them, because they have been trying to join Eurovision family, since 2008,
and they have been told that they can't do it, because they do not belong in Europe,they are not in the Council of Europe etc.
I am angry and disapointed about this decision.
Shame on you,
EBU.
they could find another solution: having each year, one guest country from the Rest of the World.
Even if i wasn't one of the advocates of Kazak participation,
i feel sorry for them, because they have been trying to join Eurovision family, since 2008,
and they have been told that they can't do it, because they do not belong in Europe,they are not in the Council of Europe etc.
I am angry and disapointed about this decision.
Shame on you,
EBU.
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As fast as I opened the mail about Australia participating, I knew it would be an ultimate whine fest here.
Change is a natural process. In 1999 the televoting was introduced, in 2004 the semi-final, in 2008 the 2 semi-final system, in 2009 the 50/50 jury system, in 2013 the producer running order.
Because Australia ruined this years Eurovision
Australia has the interest and the funds. Portugal, Slovakia and Croatia doesn't. It's not like the EBU doesn't want them in.
Change is a natural process. In 1999 the televoting was introduced, in 2004 the semi-final, in 2008 the 2 semi-final system, in 2009 the 50/50 jury system, in 2013 the producer running order.
Because Australia ruined this years Eurovision
Australia has the interest and the funds. Portugal, Slovakia and Croatia doesn't. It's not like the EBU doesn't want them in.
So, let's have a look at who could be next.
By the way, Mr. John Kalimeris (he was responsible for Eurovision in ERT, in the decade of 00's),
said in an interview a few days ago that EBU is in discussion with United States of America.
By the way, Mr. John Kalimeris (he was responsible for Eurovision in ERT, in the decade of 00's),
said in an interview a few days ago that EBU is in discussion with United States of America.
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All that whining...
In the late 90ties the ESC was almost gone and the interest was low. Only the introduction of the Eastern European countries inreased the intrest again. And now I see there ist a downswing again. This interest is decreasing an adding further countries is a good idea. But in case of further non European entries the big 5 rule must be canceled. Only last years winning countrie should be allowed to skip the qualification.
In the late 90ties the ESC was almost gone and the interest was low. Only the introduction of the Eastern European countries inreased the intrest again. And now I see there ist a downswing again. This interest is decreasing an adding further countries is a good idea. But in case of further non European entries the big 5 rule must be canceled. Only last years winning countrie should be allowed to skip the qualification.
ZoboCamel
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Would you propose having, say, 12 or 13 qualifiers per semi then? That could be an interesting replacement. Otherwise, though, I'm not sure I'd want to see the grand final go down to only 21 entries.
GermanBango
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Jeeey finally some drama again ... It almost got boring 
You guys should really calm your tits!
You guys should really calm your tits!
skip to 13th minute
http://www.antenna.gr/webtv/watch?cid=s_y_a$yzq3sy4=
He said word by word "Aussies are already participating, and they are discussing about United States of America"
ParadiseES
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Facts?
SpZ
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Adding new countries is a decent idea. Arbitrarily picking them is not.
PREACH! Most of us saw that coming though. The anniversary excuse was just meant to avoid as much criticism as possible about Australia's inclusion, because they now explain their return (and permanent participation) by the "overwhelmingly positive feedback of the viewers after their participation" and their high placing. The truth is that the novelty factor and their name helped them get that outcome. There's absolutely no way Australia could have flopped while they were special guests.
And if you look closely at the article, it is said that "We strongly believe the Eurovision Song Contest has the potential to evolve organically into a truly global event". So now there is no doubt about Jon Ola Sand's design, and whether they did contact the USA or not, the door is wide open for anyone to enter the contest (provided they're approved by the EBU).
Aussies are certainly happy about that news, and I won't spoil their joy. But it's not a logical evolution of the contest imo. I hope they'll rename the contest, since it's not European anymore. And accepting the USA? Why rejecting China then?... Seems like the contest will be another international Anglo-american event.
Now a Kazakh participation would be the least they could do, I can't even imagine how they feel after being rejected for so long.
After that news, I may well consider an Australian win next year, as the EBU never ceases to surprise me.
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As far as I remember it is not the EBU who decides who is winning the contest.
Okay I found this intrview with Dave Goodman(Communications Officer for the EBU)
And from everything official it looks like we won't be seeing any other countries soon since the interest among the other EBU associate members is either low or none:
Also can people please stop mentioning Kazakhstan because turns out they never even tried to enter and everything I read about them comes from unofficial resources (If you have something legitimate show it to prove me wrong):
Also can people please stop mentioning Kazakhstan because turns out they never even tried to enter and everything I read about them comes from unofficial resources (If you have something legitimate show it to prove me wrong):
Liechtenstein and Kazakhstan say hi 
I'm wondering about one thing, though... for those countries that vote, ESC has to be transmitted live. Eastern Australia has early morning when the event starts. How are the viewing figures high? On Sunday, it's more believable, but I still doubt so many people would wake up at 6 AM on a Sunday just to watch Eurovision. But the semis which take place on Wednesday and Friday in Australia? Most people need to be at school or work then, no? Could someone [MENTION=11243]ZoboCamel[/MENTION] provide an explanation for this?
I'm wondering about one thing, though... for those countries that vote, ESC has to be transmitted live. Eastern Australia has early morning when the event starts. How are the viewing figures high? On Sunday, it's more believable, but I still doubt so many people would wake up at 6 AM on a Sunday just to watch Eurovision. But the semis which take place on Wednesday and Friday in Australia? Most people need to be at school or work then, no? Could someone [MENTION=11243]ZoboCamel[/MENTION] provide an explanation for this?